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Comment Re:Or hear me out (Score 1) 90

Some from all of those but a lot comes from #2 where admin costs have outpaced teaching costs in both total expenditure and rate of increase.

We can say amenities will keep students away but you'd have to show me what we're cutting and is that worth the high tuition (which also keep students away) and the value proposition (also keeps students away)

https://www.usnews.com/educati...

Also to say it's incredulous to say the US can reduce the cost of school would imply that the costs are the same in the rest of the world but much like healthcare the USA is far out in front there, something is wrong with our system here:

https://educationdata.org/aver...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/p...

I have always favored a plan that gives more options for community colleges to give bachelors and also expansion of trade schools (and treating them the same)

Much like health care it's a distorted market with no controlling force on price, particularly as it's gone from optional to required in society. Much like the rest of the world the US chooses to have the state be hands off, leave it to "the market" and then wonder why prices explode. It's a very "America-coded" problem.

Comment Re:I use Excel more then any other tool (Score 1) 44

Bingo.
I asked a friend who started enthusiastically using AI for coding, used it happily for various business bits of writing, summaries, etc.

So I asked him if he had to give up one tool: "AI" (all of them) or "The spreadsheet", he thought for about 10 seconds and said, "AI" for sure: you're in and out of Excel all day long.

Comment College was always this expensive (Score 3, Informative) 90

we just used to subsidize it more. When we were kids the government paid 70% of tuition, most of it was money given directly to the colleges who passed that money on to you and me via lower cost tuition.

In the early 2000s Bush Jr and the Republican party slashed those subsidies, which is why the cost shot up. It's got nothing to do with administrative costs or fancy dorms (the dorms literally are paid for by rent paid by students, I know, I put my kid in one of the prison style dorms in college because the nice ones were too pricey).

As usual we're all being lied to.

Comment This was better covered (Score 1) 39

by the greatest rap channel in YouTube history

These are canaries in the coal mine for the collapsing economy. There's a ton of money in Wall Street chasing meme stocks and trying to extract value without offering it. But they can only survive while the economy at large does and can absorb their losses.

When the broader economy collapses various ponzi schemes go with it. Usually we prosecute the crooks and clean things up a bit, but I don't think anyone is expecting that this cycle.

Comment Re:Meanwhile (Score 2) 44

That was me, too. Excel was absolutely essential to my productivity as a data-slinger, managing real-word data into and back out of largish SQL databases. The ability to just refresh a pivot table from SQL was an automatic one-click updated report, with no code.

I could do a whole bunch of massaging of data from plain text files, notes, cut-and-paste from other applications - or I could do several Excel formulas and maybe a short macro, and process tens of thousands of records into the big database.

It was about far more than "modelling" it was a swiss army knife of data massaging, reformatting, and above all, data-cleaning.

And, yeah, I've tried to get the same work done in Libre Calc, and it's not even half-way there. It would be great if somebody could pour some real millions into Libre and take away Excel's lunch, but nobody is even talking about it.

Comment Re:poorly trained instructors (Score 1) 90

he instructor may have a very good understanding of the subject material but no idea as to how to convey it. Many of my instructors could barely speak english.

Yep. When I took an advanced calculus course, my instructors idea of teaching/lecturing was to read from the book in a (highly accented) monotone.

Comment Re: Oversold? and? (Score 0) 90

You can thank student loans for that. Earlier generations got their schooling subsidized, but now people have to get loans to pay for it themselves instead. Colleges therefore could raise tuition. Then a bipartisan effort in Congress was launched to make sure we couldn't discharge those loans through bankruptcy like you can gambling or other personal debts, which was led by Joseph R Biden. I think we know how that turned out, forgiveness for a few of the worst abused players, and blaming inability to keep his campaign promises related to partial forgiveness for all buyers blamed on Congress while he went around them to fund genocide in Gaza.

Comment You're being flippant and dismissive (Score 1) 90

A six-figure income today is enough to rent a decent apartment and maintain a okayish car.

I can tell you're an old man because you say six figure income when six figures isn't a lot of money.

I saw a joke that has really stuck with me, it's a wonderful Life is a timeless movie because it has the the line "do you know how long it takes a man to save $5,000"

Basically we have been screwing over the kids and they're feeling it. Pretty soon they're going to take away old people healthcare and social security. If only out of spite

Comment Re:College education is still worth it (Score 0) 90

Yeah you can read the studies but basically jobs that don't involve a college degree require that you build up over time to a higher income and when you lose those jobs you're starting over because without that degree employers do not value your experience.

Furthermore college educated employees tend to be more productive because they are not doing the work of one person but instead building out systems that due to work of multiple people. In the cases where they are doing individual work it's typically very high skilled specialized work which limits the number of people who can do it and competitive forces kick in keeping their wages high and keeping them employed longer.

Basically think of it like this. In the old days you didn't need any school you just worked the fields. Then we started to automate farming and improve that so we started to have to educate people up to about third or fourth grades so they can work factories which were much more efficient and productive. Then we started to automate those jobs so we started to require high School level education in order to maintain the kind of productivity we demand from workers. Now we've automated most of the jobs involving a high school education so that if you want to earn a living you need a college education.

Basically we demand increased productivity from workers every year and the only way to get that is with more education for more advanced workers.

Comment The French revolution didn't work (Score 0) 90

The monarchy was restored and the only reason it eventually fell is that the merchant class overtook monarchies as the ruling elite.

We basically traded one set of Masters for another.

Violent revolutions don't really work because people who are good at violence don't usually give up power and will set themselves up with power following the violence.

I'm not sure what the solution is but it's not going to be a revolution. I don't think we actually have a solution and I think we are eventually going to trigger world war III and hand the launch codes to religious lunatics but assuming we don't do that it's going to be slow steady progress through education.

Comment College education is still worth it (Score 1, Interesting) 90

Studies still clearly show that you will earn more money and have a more stable career regardless of the major you pick.

Everything is going to shit so there are no guarantees like there was for the boomers. Nobody is going to build you a house with government money like they did for the boomers.

But if we are talking about probabilities you should still go to school.

A whole bunch of very rich assholes want you to think that you don't have any use for an education because they are tired of paying for it and because they don't want you to learn critical thinking skills. That's why you get at least two stories a week attacking education in your feed.

Keep in mind those wealthy elites think you're too stupid to figure that out. It's up to you whether you want to prove them right or not.

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