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DMCA Anti-Circumvention Provisions

Posted by michael on Mon Oct 30, 2000 11:28 AM
from the lay-down-the-law dept.
On Friday, the Librarian of Congress published the results of the DMCA comments process, which we've mentioned here before. Starting on October 28, the remaining part of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act has gone into effect, except for the two minor exceptions which the Register of Copyrights recommended.

The Digital Millennium Copyright Act

Let's start with a review of the law. The two sections we're most interested in are Title 17, Chapter 12, Section 1201(a) and Section 1201(b):


" 1201. Circumvention of copyright protection systems

"(a) VIOLATIONS REGARDING CIRCUMVENTION OF TECHNOLOGICAL MEASURES.-
"(1)(A) No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title. The prohibition contained in the preceding sentence shall take effect at the end of the 2-year period beginning on the date of the enactment of this chapter.

...
"(2) No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof, that-
"(A) is primarily designed or produced for the purpose of circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title;

"(B) has only limited commercially significant purpose or use other than to circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title; or
"(C) is marketed by that person or another acting in concert with that person with that person's knowledge for use in circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title.
"(3) As used in this subsection?
"(A) to 'circumvent a technological measure' means to descramble a scrambled work, to decrypt an encrypted work, or otherwise to avoid, bypass, remove, deactivate, or impair a technological measure, without the authority of the copyright owner; and

"(B) a technological measure 'effectively controls access to a work' if the measure, in the ordinary course of its operation, requires the application of information, or a process or a treatment, with the authority of the copyright owner, to gain access to the work.
...

"(b) ADDITIONAL VIOLATIONS.-
"(1) No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof, that?
"(A) is primarily designed or produced for the purpose of circumventing protection afforded by a technological measure that effectively protects a right of a copyright owner under this title in a work or a portion thereof;

"(B) has only limited commercially significant purpose or use other than to circumvent protection afforded by a technological measure that effectively protects a right of a copyright owner under this title in a work or a portion thereof; or
"(C) is marketed by that person or another acting in concert with that person with that person's knowledge for use in circumventing protection afforded by a technological measure that effectively protects a right of a copyright owner under this title in a work or a portion thereof.
"(2) As used in this subsection-
"(A) to 'circumvent protection afforded by a technological measure' means avoiding, bypassing, removing, deactivating, or otherwise impairing a technological measure; and

"(B) a technological measure 'effectively protects a right of a copyright owner under this title' if the measure, in the ordinary course of its operation, prevents, restricts, or otherwise limits the exercise of a right of a copyright owner under this title.

The law covers two related but distinct concepts. The first is the concept of "access controls," the second is the concept of "copy controls." The law covers these two items separately and treats them differently, so it's important to make the distinction. Copy controls can be thought of as measures which actually prevent copying. Access controls prevent usage, not copying. Copy controls: Macrovision, serial copy protection for digital works, old floppy protection schemes, etc. Access controls: encryption, passwords, usage restrictions, etc.

Section 1201(a)(1) prohibits anyone from circumventing access control measures, with exemptions to be determined by the Librarian of Congress. Section 1201(a)(2) prohibits anyone from building, importing, or distributing a device designed for circumventing access control measures -- no exemptions.

Section 1201(b) prohibits anyone from building, importing, or distributing a device designed for circumventing copy control measures. Note that there is no counterpart to 1201(a)(1), that is, you are not prohibited from USING such a device if you manage to obtain one without building it or obtaining it from anywhere else. (Achieving this is left as an exercise for the reader.) Using such a device would presumably fall under older copyright laws -- you're making a copy.

Only the very first section -- 1201(a)(1) -- had its implementation delayed. The other two -- the device-building sections -- took effect immediately upon passage of the law, October 28, 1998. That first section was the subject of a hearing and review process in which the Librarian of Congress had the option to exempt certain classes of copyrighted works from the prohibition. The public had a chance to comment and reply to others' comments.

The review process is now complete, and the ruling has been issued. Only two exemptions were issued:

  • Compilations consisting of lists of websites blocked by filtering software applications;
  • Literary works, including computer programs and databases, protected by access control mechanisms that fail to permit access because of malfunction, damage or obsoleteness

The Register of Copyrights considered and denied all of the other exemptions suggested. Commenters and speakers suggested a wide range of exemptions. Libraries, universities and individuals generally promoted exemptions; corporations owning vast amounts of copyrighted materials opposed them. There were several factors working against any exemptions being granted, though.

The first and largest factor was that the rule-making only applied to that single section of the law, regarding circumvention of access controls. The Register of Copyrights shot down a lot of comments because the commenter's focus seemed to be on copy controls rather than access controls. For example, if a work prohibited one from copying a section of the work in order to comment on it, that would be considered a copy control, not an access control, according to the copyright office.

Another factor was that the Register of Copyrights defined "classes of works" very narrowly, in a way that severely damaged many of the submissions -- they were too broad. Imagine, if you will, being asked to write an essay on why slaves should be free. You do so. The teacher hands it back with an "F" and say, "No, not slaves in general -- I wanted you to identify specific slaves and tell me why those particular slaves should be free as opposed to the others." Even though the libraries and universities made powerful arguments pertaining to large numbers of works, because they didn't break down their arguments into specific narrow categories -- even though it would be silly and wasteful of paper to do so -- the Register of Copyrights threw out their arguments. Even where specific classes of works were singled out by the commenters, unless they submitted a great deal of evidence, they weren't deemed to have met the burden necessary of proving that they were being harmed by the prohibition on circumvention of access controls. In particular, the Register of Copyrights noted that "individual cases" would not be sufficient to meet the burden of showing harm. And no exemptions were granted where there was a large company opposing the exemptions.

So what happened to DVDs? A section of the ruling was devoted to discussing the DVD situation -- if you've been following the DVD mess, this is a must-read. The Register of Copyrights declined to enact any sort of exemption for circumventing access controls on DVDs, citing a number of factors. Within the twisted logic of the rule-making, the factors are actually sensible -- if you accept his premises, even a madman is sane. They seem to have been thinking of the region-coding scheme as the primary "access control" worthy of note. The copyright office reasoned that since you could buy a Windows machine or a DVD player (or a DVD player from another region, if needed), or perhaps a VCR, that there was no reason for an exemption. (Keep in mind here that 2600 et al. are being sued under the other sections of the DMCA, so their plight is not an example of harm caused by this section.) The Register did consider that the blending of copy controls and access controls in CSS might be a problem, but decided that Congress, not the Library of Congress, should address it. As a result, the final word on DVD's is this: you can't make or distribute a device to circumvent either the access control function of CSS or the copy control function. However, you may circumvent the copy control function, subject to the limitations of normal copyright law, but you may not circumvent the access control function. Thus it is illegal to, for example, fast-forward past the advertisements at the beginning of a DVD that you purchased, since that would involve circumventing the access controls.

(As an aside, my cynical nature suggests that if any censorware vendors had commented on this rule-making and said something along the lines of, "Our company will utterly collapse if you grant an exemption here," like Sony, Time-Warner, the MPAA and other copyright-holders did with regard to DVDs, that exemption wouldn't have been granted either.)

Possible penalties you may face are both civil and criminal. The criminal penalties are a fine of up to $500,000 and five years in prison; civil penalties are the actual damages suffered by the plaintiff or up to $2,500 per act.

So where does this leave us? One area that wasn't discussed in the rule-making was how a user was supposed to exercise the right to circumvent access controls without being able to purchase or create a device for doing so. Typically "device" is interpreted very broadly -- it means "any combination of software and/or hardware." So let's say you decide to take advantage of the exemption for publishing the lists of sites blocked by censorware products. You can feel free to circumvent their encryption, as long as you don't use any devices to do it -- no software, no hardware, no tools whatsoever. Even a pencil and paper is a "device" for these purposes. Presumably you could print out the encrypted file and then decrypt it in your head.

The other exemption is similar. Libraries pointed out that companies often go out of business, perhaps leaving them no way to gain access to some of the works they've purchased. So for this purpose, libraries can circumvent the access controls on those works -- assuming they can do so without creating any sort of "device".

In other words, this whole exercise was futile. The prohibitions on actually circumventing access controls will never be enforced, or at least rarely. Far more common will be prosecutions and civil suits under the sections which deal with making and distributing devices, where there is no concern with exemptions. Copyright holders will concentrate on taking away the tools to circumvent rather than preventing people from circumventing, since it isn't possible to circumvent without tools and most people do not possess the ability to manufacture their own tools.

(I should point out that there are certain other narrow exemptions built into the DMCA -- read it in its entirety if you wish. They are very narrow indeed and have very specific requirements. Rely on them at your peril. For example, you are permitted to circumvent access controls if those controls violate your privacy by collecting or transmitting personal identifying information. But you still aren't permitted to create or obtain a device to perform that circumvention.)

Readers: I hope that this article can be a resource for answering the questions about the anti-circumvention provisions of the DMCA that come up time and time again. This is the law, as much information as is available. If a question is coming to your mind about a specific circumstance, the answer is: whatever a judge says it is. There is no more information, no firm answers. A device can be purely software, and in the same vein as encryption software, restrictions on publishing such software devices run squarely into the First Amendment. Will there be a case testing this? What will win, the DMCA or the 1st Amendment? In 2 or 3 years, the Librarian of Congress will conduct this same review process once again, looking at the restrictions on circumventing access controls. Perhaps the library and user communities will do a more convincing job the next time around. But keep in mind that the strongest parts of the law, the prohibitions on devices, are not subject to this exemption process.

-- Michael Sims, 2000-10-30

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  • Re:The constitution was written too early by greg_barton (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:45AM
  • Re:The constitution was written too early by graybeard (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:47AM
  • Yeah, and DeCSS? by skiy (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:47AM
  • Region Encoding is good for you! by tubs (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:47AM
  • Wait a minute, I've seen this before... by Kracko (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:49AM
  • Re:Fast Forward by kaphka (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @08:06AM
  • Re:Copyright owner's permission? by sqlrob (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:06AM
  • Re:The part that gets me... by Sloppy (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @08:53AM
  • Re:Three cheers for the DMCA! by Dr.Dubious DDQ (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:53AM
  • Re:HOLD ON! What about section C??? by nagora (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @08:06AM
  • Running out of things to do on Earth by Benjamin Shniper (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @08:06AM
  • Capone and tax evasion by Galvatron (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:57AM
  • by HvidNat (148511) on Monday October 30 2000, @08:58AM (#664984)
    Ref: http://www.loc.gov/copyright/fedreg/65fr64555.html
    Please note that this determination affirms a federal court ruling (NY) that it is a violation of the DMCA to view a work, even if the viewer has license to access the work, with software other than that which the author of the work allows (even if not stipulated in the license a priori which software is accessible).
    As such, please note that the US copyright office has been in continuous violation of the DMCA since its inception by recieving encoded data in the form of e-mails, decrypting them, viewing them, and even reposting them without the consent of the authors. While sending the note to the LOC may constitute license to use the work, without express prior consent of the author as to the methods used to access the work, the federal government has engaged in systematic circumvention of access controls on those works (for example, ASCII text is not readable by humans without an intermediary piece of software to render it in readable form -- the courts have already adjudicated that neither the underlying quality of the access control measure, nor license to use the work are to be considered with regard to whether the user circumvented the access controls).
    Further, it has come to my attention that the Library of Congress has in place a system of software programs explicitly designed to circumvent digital encryption measures including e-mail applications, FAX software, WWW browsers, TCP/IP protocol stacks, spreadsheets, word processors, databases, graphics programs, print protocols, data compression and data encryption tools, etc., all of which are capable of accessing, copying, and transmitting digital documents in a manner that may be inconsistent with the author's wishes. I would encourage the Library of Congress to set a good example and stop using any and all software that deals with accessing any form of digital information not produced by a Library of Congress employee until each of the work's authors can be contacted with regards to the terms an conditions of access to the work can be determined.
    For future reference, this message may be accessed on any general purpose or embedded device using any UNIX or Linux operating system with the aid of software running under that operating system. Accessing the work with any software other than that stipulated above will be construed as a violation of the access restriction provisions of the DMCA.
    The same access limitation applies to all previous correspondence.
  • Re:HOLD ON! What about section C??? by KjetilK (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @08:06AM
  • "Obsolescence" and literary works? by Dr.Dubious DDQ (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @09:01AM
  • perhaps this is interesting by frknfrk (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:06AM
  • Re:The part that gets me... by Cramer (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:08AM
  • Re:HOLD ON! What about section C??? by nagora (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:08AM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by JimDabell (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @09:03AM
  • by kfg (145172) on Monday October 30 2000, @09:03AM (#664991)
    I'm afraid you are wrong. You thinking of the current trend in software licencing and trying to extend it to general copyright law.

    If you buy a book you OWN the book. Period. You can access it in any way you want. You can sell it, trade it, lend it to a friend, etc.

    You can also quote it, burn it, cut its words out and rearrange them, scribble in it, etc.

    And here's the real kicker, you can COPY it in its entirety for you * own use.*

    You can do all of this legally specifically because you do NOT license it. You BOUGHT the book.

    What you *cannot* do is copy it and the GIVE that copy to someone else because you do not own the work itself, only the book, but you have the absolute right to use that book in ANY manner yourself.

    Video and sound operate under exactly the same rules. You may copy, encode, sample, use as a Frisbee (tm), chop up and rearrange your music and videos at will, lend or even rent to a friend, all legally. How do you think video stores operate? Do you think they have a special licence? No, they don't. You can buy tapes at retail and rent them, it is your RIGHT!

    This right is legally defined EXPLICITY by acts of Congress.

    Now find one or your commercial video tapes, and a commercial DVD. Please note that there in *no licence* notice on EITHER. They both claim the SAME * copyright protection.* Not licence protection. Copyright protection.

    In fact, and here's the really ironic part of the whole damn thing, the very fact that you can purchase a video tape with no access or copy controls is being used by the lawyers to * claim the DMCA denies you none of these rights because you can by a video tape instead, for which these rights remain intact!*

    Think about that one really, really hard for a minute.

    The DMCA makes a subcatagory of IP * storage * as a special protected class. The fact that langague used in the *copy* of a work is coded in ones and zeros, instead of the 26 letters of the alphabet, give it special status. This is no different from saying that books written in German have different copyright laws applicable than books written in English or Spanish.

    Think about this one, what if I wrote a book in * Morse Code.* The DMCA would then apply to a * printed work.*

    Why should it?

    Answer: It shouldn't, but that's what it does.

    .- is A. A is .-, they are just different symbolic codes for the exact same entitiy, and the exact same IP, but the .- now operates under a different law than the A.

    It's .. -.. .. --- - .. -.-.

    Do not try to read the above word, to do so is in violation of the DMCA. The above is my IP and you must purchase a code key from me. Obtaining a code key elsewhere is in violation of the DMCA. If you "know" the code key we maintain that your brain is an illegal device by the definition excepted by the DMCA and you are now a criminal. Offenders will prosocuted.

  • Re:No Foresight by Dr.Dubious DDQ (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @09:04AM
  • Re:Taco, your clock is wrong by deanc (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:08AM
  • Exactly by stubob (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @09:06AM
  • Re:The part that gets me... by demosthenes (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:09AM
  • Re:Here begins a new era of flimsy hardware... by Kaa (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @09:07AM
  • Re:Here begins a new era of flimsy hardware... by Prior Restraint (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:09AM
  • Two things by jsfetzik (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @09:07AM
  • so what this is saying... by aethera (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:09AM
  • what do you mean by Lord Omlette (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @06:33AM
  • Re:Taco, your clock is wrong by Detritus (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @09:09AM
  • Re:The only protest now seems to be with the feet. by Timmy1138 (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:10AM
  • Sad waste by CyberKnet (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @06:34AM
  • The part that gets me... by Snowfox (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @06:37AM
  • If a DMCA-esque law existed 30 years ago... by AFCArchvile (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @08:11AM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by M. Silver (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @09:10AM
  • Anti-Circumvention (Score:5)

    by Yardley (135408) on Monday October 30 2000, @06:38AM (#665007) Homepage
    Circumvention is a necessary liberty. Without circumvention for technology we cannot figure out how technology works or make technologies compatible (and don't tell me we're allowed to do that under the law -- look at the DeCSS case). These anti-circumvention provisions of the DMCA must be struck down. They only serve to vest power into the hands of large corporations and impede technological progress. Circumvention is a right!!

    --
  • Why I am ignoring this law by Rocketboy (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:11AM
  • Re:This sucks. by KjetilK (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:11AM
  • The death of user rights. by AFCArchvile (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @06:39AM
  • Re:The part that gets me... by delmuerte (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @06:40AM
  • Re:The constitution was written too early by Stavr0 (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @10:38AM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by jnik (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @10:39AM
  • Re:Taco, your clock is wrong by kfg (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @10:41AM
  • Re:So, no more video stabilizer boxes? by tzanger (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @09:11AM
  • Re:HOLD ON! What about section C??? by RickHunter (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @10:47AM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by Zagadka (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @10:53AM
  • Re:Primary function? by nagora (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @10:53AM
  • Re:No one can FORCE you to watch.... by (void*) (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @08:13AM
  • -1, OffTopic by Sodium Attack (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @09:14AM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by Wah (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @10:55AM
  • Re:Unfortunately, you're wrong... by AFCArchvile (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:14AM
  • Re:And furthermore... by Dr.Dubious DDQ (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @09:14AM
  • Fire and theaters by sulli (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @10:57AM
  • Re:The constitution was written too early by Sloppy (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @08:14AM
  • Re:Win some, lose some... by frknfrk (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @08:14AM
  • no access control in WIPO by townmouse (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @11:00AM
  • Re:Quick Sumary of Rulemaking by Longstaff (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @09:15AM
  • Re:What are you bitching about? by bigdavex (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @09:16AM
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 30 2000, @08:15AM (#665030)

    That is the fun part! There is a part of the constitution that says that the federal government can't do this. The tenth amendment [constitution.org] specifically prohibits the federal government from exercising any powers not delegated to it by the constitution. Federal laws such as the wetlands protection, gun control, federal highways, and the DMCA are all extraordinarily broad readings of the powers of congress [constitution.org].

    The United States of America was incredibly well engineered. The problem lies with the slow erosion of the constitution due to "emergency measures" and "temporary tax" situations. The federal government has grown to big for its britches. Somebody needs to beat the federal government with a cluestick. If I remember correctly, the federal tariff on long distance phone calls is supposed to be paying for the Spanish-American war.

    So vote Libertarian. I know they are wacky, take things a little too far, but what the hell. If enough people show some interest in a party that wants to do "extreme" things like force the government to run according the charter that we the people granted it, the viable parties will start to take notice. Maybe the media will start taking interest in (small-l) libertarian topics. I can dream.

  • Re:Circumventing Doors by Mr. Slippery (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @09:16AM
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 30 2000, @08:16AM (#665032)
    Actually, the second amendment already DOES impact our ability to use encryption.

    Since PGP was (and possibly still is) classified under the export laws as a munition, it is clearly an "arm" under the second amendment. That means that any U.S. citizen who has not had his or her civil rights revoked, such as by being convicted of a felony ("the people"), has an incontrovertable constitutional right to use PGP or equivalent enrcyption.

    Of course, since the Clinton/Gore administration holds that there is no individual right to bear arms, a Gore win would spell at least four more years of oppression. Not that Bush will be stellarly better, but I'm getting pragmatic in my old age.

    Between the first, second, fourth, and tenth amendments, one should be completely secure against this sort of government nonsense. However, the constitution is always interpreted by those currently in power in support of their interests--that is, the people who financed their elections. Don't be deluded into thinking that just because something is constitutionally protected that it will be legal and that you will somehow be protected from your life sucking at the hands of your government if you try to do what's constitutional, but not legal.

  • Re:HOLD ON! What about section C??? by toominator (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @11:05AM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by Kaa (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @11:08AM
  • Re:MOD THIS UP! by mwa (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @11:12AM
  • So that's it then? by redd (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @09:18AM
  • Re:Lets consider what copyright is... by townmouse (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @11:14AM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by Kaa (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @09:20AM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by Zagadka (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @11:14AM
  • war is never civil? by EnderWiggnz (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @09:21AM
  • Re:Three cheers for the DMCA! by makhnolives (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @11:14AM
  • Re:Quick Sumary of Rulemaking by stuart_j_wright (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:17AM
  • Re:"Effectively controls access" by Mr. Slippery (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @09:22AM
  • Re:Who decides? by Alex Belits (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @09:22AM
  • Re:The constitution was written too early by mwa (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @11:18AM
  • Re:No. by JesseL (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:17AM
  • Re:Copyright owner's permission? by AJWM (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @08:18AM
  • Re:Exactly by Zagadka (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @11:21AM
  • Re:What about non-US? by Millennium (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @11:22AM
  • Three cheers for the DMCA! by makhnolives (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:20AM
  • Re:Quick Sumary of Rulemaking by Stonehand (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:21AM
  • Re:Lets consider what copyright is... by TFloore (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @09:27AM
  • Re:The part that gets me... by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:21AM
  • Re:Quick Sumary of Rulemaking by Stonehand (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:22AM
  • Re:HOLD ON! What about section C??? by nagora (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:23AM
  • Re:The constitution was written too early by Saurentine (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @11:32AM
  • The DMFRA: Could it be passed? by VValdo (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @11:32AM
  • Re:HOLD ON! What about section C??? by nagora (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @11:32AM
  • Something else to think about... by rigby (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @09:28AM
  • The Exceptions... by rnturn (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @11:36AM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by Mr. Slippery (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @09:30AM
  • Re:What about non-US? by Yardley (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @11:36AM
  • somebody needs to learn how to count... by SupahVee (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:24AM
  • Re:HOLD ON! What about section C??? by nagora (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @11:37AM
  • Virus protection by bluestar (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:24AM
  • Re:The constitution was written too early by N3MCB (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @09:33AM
  • Re:HOLD ON! What about section C??? by nagora (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @11:41AM
  • by Millennium (2451) on Monday October 30 2000, @09:33AM (#665068) Homepage
    Actually, circumventing the copy-control aspect of CSS is quite easy. It's called dd (or rawrite, or DiskCopy, or whatever the appropriate equivalent for your OS of choice is). Note that this saves the stream in its original, unencrypted state, so you have not altered the stream.

    As for circumventing access controls, DeCSS doesn't do that either. It uses a key that has been defined as valid by the MPAA. Since encryption is designed to allow people through it if they have a valid key, it is clearly not circumvention, which disables the control. Therefore, you're in the clear (IANAL, of course).

    What you could not do is decrypt the stream and then save it. However, if you copied the encrypted stream, and then played it using a player designed to play encrypted streams (which we've already determined is not circumventing the access control), then you should still be good.

    Anyone see any holes in that?
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  • Re:Taco, your clock is wrong by Mr. Slippery (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @09:36AM
  • Re:The part that gets me... by ttyRazor (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @09:37AM
  • Re:Anti-Circumvention by Zara2 (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @08:27AM
  • by Private Essayist (230922) on Monday October 30 2000, @09:37AM (#665072)
    Another factor was that the Register of Copyrights defined "classes of works" very narrowly, in a way that severely damaged many of the submissions -- they were too broad.

    OK, so first thing we do is make sure our submission is specific.

    Even where specific classes of works were singled out by the commenters, unless they submitted a great deal of evidence, they weren't deemed to have met the burden necessary of proving that they were being harmed by the prohibition on circumvention of access controls.

    OK, so next thing we do is make sure we provide a massive amount of evidence to back up our specific submission.

    In particular, the Register of Copyrights noted that "individual cases" would not be sufficient to meet the burden of showing harm.

    Erp! Um, so lemme get this straight: We have to provide specific submissions, not general ones, but if we provide 'individual cases' we get looked down upon?

    And no exemptions were granted where there was a large company opposing the exemptions.

    Oh well, screw it then. The fix was in from the beginning...
    ________________

  • The censorware provision... by Platinum Dragon (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @08:28AM
  • Re:Quick Sumary of Rulemaking by Stonehand (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:28AM
  • Re:Master of puppets is pulling our strings. by Stu Charlton (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:30AM
  • by kaphka (50736) <1nv7b001@sneakemail.com> on Monday October 30 2000, @08:30AM (#665076)
    For example, I can't shout "Fire!" in a crowded theater.
    It's brutally ironic that this cliche comes up so often in discussions on free speech, yet no one seems to remember that the quote was originally used to justify a particularly disturbing infringement on the first ammendment. I found the real story here [infomagic.net] (bottom of the page), after a few Google [google.com] searches.
    Nor can I write an erotic story where a character says, at the end, "That was the best sex I ever had, but I am only 8 years old."
    No, you can't, and that's probably the most blatant violation of the first ammendment that's in force today. However, restoring that particular right is not really a high priority for most defenders of free speech.
  • What is a device? by v3rb (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:31AM
  • Re:Here begins a new era of flimsy hardware... by Wah (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @11:47AM
  • Re:Anti-Circumvention by Kotetsu (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @11:53AM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by Another MacHack (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @06:19PM
  • Re:Anti-Circumvention by ConceptJunkie (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @11:53AM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by WNight (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @06:55PM
  • Re:The censorware provision... by Kagato (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @11:55AM
  • Re:The part that gets me... by atrowe (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @06:40AM
  • Browser plugin by cmattair (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:15PM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by bwt (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @11:57AM
  • DeCSS covered, every way you look by seizer (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @06:41AM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by Just Some Guy (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @09:41AM
  • Re:No Foresight by PotatoHead (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @09:41AM
  • We only need one exemption: by guran (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @10:03PM
  • by Hard_Code (49548) on Monday October 30 2000, @06:41AM (#665091)
    (1)(A) No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title.

    Um, if it effectively controlled access wouldn't this law be *unnecessary*? It's like putting some gum on a chest to "lock" it in place, then when somebody "circumvents" your access control device, running to the government and saying "hey, they're not allowed to circumvent my anti-circumvention device - make a law!". I mean, why don't they just make a law that says nobody can circumvent anything they don't want them to, and just do away with the tedious practice of actually designing and implementing controls?
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by ichimunki (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @12:00PM
  • Old Testament stuff? by beckett (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @10:04PM
  • Someone needs to design a freeware DVD player... by AFCArchvile (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @08:32AM
  • Re:The part that gets me... by ttyRazor (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @09:42AM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by wierdo (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @12:04PM
  • The only protest now seems to be with the feet. by strange_coffee (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @06:42AM
  • Re:Taco, your clock is wrong by GigsVT (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @12:05PM
  • Copyrights forever! by dbeast (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:33AM
  • Illegal how? by Noel (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @09:43AM
  • Get me some Kleenex. by Shadowlion (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @06:42AM
  • Re:HOLD ON! What about section C??? by mwa (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @12:09PM
  • by Stonehand (71085) on Monday October 30 2000, @08:34AM (#665103) Homepage
    Depending on the type of gun and location, owning it can be very illegal -- some cities ban handguns (D.C. comes to mind), some ban long guns (NYC, for instance), certain guns are ALWAYS considered worse than others (automatic weapons, 'natch, plus depends on clip size, et cetera) and ISTR that a Federal law banning firearms possession within a certain radius of a school passed, although it wouldn't surprise me if that had been struck down.

    The NRA isn't as strong as you seem to think -- they've had their share of losses. But they do, at least, have a lot of experience trying to press the view that the focus should be on punishing misuse, rather than possession.
  • Re:The part that gets me... by Malk-a-mite (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @06:43AM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by ichimunki (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @09:45AM
  • Re:Anti-Circumvention by ttyRazor (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @09:46AM
  • Prohibition? (Score:4)

    by Tackhead (54550) on Monday October 30 2000, @06:44AM (#665107)
    Note that there is no counterpart to 1201(a)(1), that is, you are not prohibited from USING such a device if you manage to obtain one without building it or obtaining it from anywhere else. (Achieving this is left as an exercise for the reader.)

    History buffs will immediately recognize the similarity between this and Prohibition (i.e. of alcohol in the 20s), wherein it was legal to drink the stuff, it just wasn't legal to buy or brew it.

    Thus came the "speakeasy", or a house/club where persons unknown (i.e. Capone and company) supplied the house and its patrons with booze. The patrons, as members of the club, found themselves "magically" in posession of the booze, and proceeded to consume it.

    Further deponent sayeth not, other than that Capone went down for tax evasion, not the booze racket.

  • by AFCArchvile (221494) on Monday October 30 2000, @06:45AM (#665108)
    ...which will be protected by the DMCA. Case in point: the Cue:Cat. It could be easily declawed by any person willing enough to get a screwdriver and an Exacto knife. However, DC cried out "foul!" and "DMCA!" at the same time.

    I'd hate to see DMCA-protected hardware in the future; however, the trend has been set: hardware devices in the future will be relatively cheap, but there will be an expensive service bound to them. They will be easy to hack, but doing so means violating the DMCA and facing the full brunt of the U.S. legal system. In other words, technological Darwinism as we know it will end. Pathetic companies like DC will be allowed to leech money off of their pathetic products and they will be allowed to make a despicably large profit. If this isn't grounds for a revolution, then I don't know what is.

  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by Cramer (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:35AM
  • Wanted: voting records on DMCA, patents, etc. by Adam J. Richter (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @09:49AM
  • Interpretation of "obsoleteness" by rajulkabir2 (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:35AM
  • Re:Lets consider what copyright is... by Greyfox (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @09:50AM
  • Re:This sucks. by Prior Restraint (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:36AM
  • by Tau Zero (75868) on Monday October 30 2000, @08:36AM (#665114) Journal
    Very good. A right without a remedy or means to exercise it is no right at all.
    --
  • Re:Taco, your clock is wrong by GigsVT (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @10:41PM
  • Re:Copyright owner's permission? by grahamm (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @11:15PM
  • Qn: Relevance to Rest of World by NeuralAbyss (Score:1) Tuesday October 31 2000, @12:02AM
  • exemptions by townmouse (Score:1) Tuesday October 31 2000, @01:48AM
  • Re:The constitution was written too early by GigsVT (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @12:10PM
  • Upon further reflection... by Millennium (Score:2) Tuesday October 31 2000, @03:06AM
  • Laws by cybercuzco (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @12:14PM
  • Re:"Effectively controls access" by Shadowlion (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @06:45AM
  • Re:Win some, lose some... by Happy Monkey (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @12:25PM
  • Re:Quick Sumary of Rulemaking by YU Nicks NE Way (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @09:50AM
  • Re:Here begins a new era of flimsy hardware... by Kaa (Score:1) Tuesday October 31 2000, @04:13AM
  • Well, so much for civilization, then... by Mathonwy (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @06:46AM
  • Conspiracy Theory by TexasCowboy23 (Score:2) Tuesday October 31 2000, @04:15AM
  • They ignored my comments by Apotsy (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @12:25PM
  • Re:The constitution was written too early by Saurentine (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @09:52AM
  • ...and I would not sit in the back of the bus, or use "separate but equal" facilities, or submit to the other recent denials of civil rights.

    Yes, I am equating this with the civil rights marches of the '50s and '60s. Why? Because the same principle is at stake: a small segment of the population is being denied the right to exercise a basic freedom, and the rest of the society must necessarily be lesser because of it.

    This is serious, people! You can either follow the herd mentality and be a good sheep, or you can stand up for what is right and decent. It's your choice.

  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by Cramer (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @12:26PM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by Kaa (Score:1) Tuesday October 31 2000, @04:23AM
  • Re:Pass any crazy law and let the courts sort it o by Tuxedo Mask (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @09:56AM
  • Repeal the DMCA by RonVNX (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @06:48AM
  • Re:what do you mean by Lord Omlette (Score:1) Tuesday October 31 2000, @05:44AM
  • Re:What are you bitching about? by Dr.Dubious DDQ (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @09:56AM
  • Re:The constitution was written too early by bwt (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @12:29PM
  • Mod him up!!! by acacia (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @09:56AM
  • Clearly a case of intense lobbying... by lwagner (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @06:48AM
  • Re:What are you bitching about? by Dr.Dubious DDQ (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @09:58AM
  • Re:what do you mean by Shadowlion (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @06:48AM
  • by Rupert (28001) on Monday October 30 2000, @06:52AM (#665142) Homepage Journal
    It's door handles versus door locks. The little latch connected to the handle controls access by keeping the door closed. It is illegal (trespass) to circumvent this access control. The lock effectively controls access by requiring you to have tools, knowledge, large hammers or some combination thereof to gain entry. That too is illegal, but it has now become breaking and entering.



    --
  • Re:Taco, your clock is wrong by ConceptJunkie (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @12:52PM
  • Re:No. by Timmy1138 (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @10:01AM
  • Brain is a device by roman_mir (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @06:52AM
  • Re:Prohibition? by powerlord (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @10:03AM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by phil reed (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @10:04AM
  • Re:Taco, your clock is wrong by mpe (Score:2) Tuesday October 31 2000, @06:03AM
  • Re:Taco, your clock is wrong by mpe (Score:2) Tuesday October 31 2000, @06:08AM
  • Re:MOD THIS UP! by mpe (Score:2) Tuesday October 31 2000, @06:26AM
  • Re:Geez... by mpe (Score:2) Tuesday October 31 2000, @06:38AM
  • Re:Taco, your clock is wrong by kfg (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @12:52PM
  • Re:You just wait .... by mpe (Score:2) Tuesday October 31 2000, @06:40AM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by lunatik17 (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @12:55PM
  • Re:The DMCA isn't getting repealed anytime soon... by mpe (Score:2) Tuesday October 31 2000, @06:44AM
  • Copyright owner's permission? by grahamm (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @06:53AM
  • Re:Copyright owner's permission? by Sloppy (Score:2) Tuesday October 31 2000, @06:54AM
  • Re:Circumventing Doors by catfood (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @01:07PM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by Kaa (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @10:06AM
  • Re:Fast Forward by HeghmoH (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @10:06AM
  • Fast Forward (Score:3)

    by Rupert (28001) on Monday October 30 2000, @06:55AM (#665161) Homepage Journal
    I know the inability to fast forward through commercials would piss me off if I owned a DVD player. Can you chain it though a Tivo and get around it that way? Or is that circumvention?

    I have been told (by the parent of a three year old) that the Tigger Movie DVD has 12 minutes of trailers and commercials at the beginning. This is similar to various Disney videos we own. I have dismantled the cassette and removed the offending sections of these tapes. The unfortunate 3 year old with the DVD has no such recourse.

    --
  • Re:Here begins a new era of flimsy hardware... by CubeDweller (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @01:07PM
  • Re:Why I am ignoring this law by Rakarra (Score:1) Tuesday October 31 2000, @08:53AM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by PhilHibbs (Score:2) Tuesday October 31 2000, @09:35AM
  • They just created a glastnost by Lumpy (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @10:11AM
  • Re:Lets consider what copyright is... by PhilHibbs (Score:2) Tuesday October 31 2000, @10:19AM
  • Treaties by RonVNX (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @06:57AM
  • Re:Quick Sumary of Rulemaking by StormReaver (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @01:25PM
  • Re:Copyright owner's permission? by grahamm (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @06:58AM
  • Re:Taco, your clock is wrong by powerlord (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @10:15AM
  • Circumvention illegalised ??! by Grootvoet (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @06:58AM
  • Re:Fire and theaters by sulli (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @01:27PM
  • Suggested "alternatives" aren't by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @01:30PM
  • by psychonaut (65759) <psychonaut@nothingisreal.com> on Monday October 30 2000, @10:16AM (#665174) Homepage
    In other words, this whole exercise was futile. The prohibitions on actually circumventing access controls will never be enforced, or at least rarely.

    This is exactly what they want, and no, it's not futile. This law is tantamount to saying, "Everything is illegal, and we're just going to selectively prosecute those violators who we don't like." The DMCA effectively makes it very easy for anyone with money (i.e. content publishers) to lock up anyone they see as a threat to their interests.


    Regards,

  • Re:Prohibition? by Cy Guy (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @06:59AM
  • Primary function? by rakslice (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @10:18AM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by Rakarra (Score:1) Tuesday October 31 2000, @11:13AM
  • Re:Yeah, and DeCSS? by Rakarra (Score:1) Tuesday October 31 2000, @02:30PM
  • Re:Quick Sumary of Rulemaking by meldroc (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @01:31PM
  • Re:The constitution was written too early by Rakarra (Score:1) Tuesday October 31 2000, @03:04PM
  • Re:What are you bitching about? by Rakarra (Score:1) Tuesday October 31 2000, @03:14PM
  • Re:Oh, please by Art Tatum (Score:1) Tuesday October 31 2000, @03:14PM
  • Well then... (Score:3)

    by Mathonwy (160184) on Monday October 30 2000, @06:59AM (#665183)
    Obviously, we'll just have to stop making brains, if we want to keep being good little consumers/citizens... On second thought, looking around at the general public, one is forced to wonder if this plan has already gone into effect...
  • Re:The Future (MOD PARENT UP) by quantum bit (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @01:36PM
  • Re:Look who's talking for us! by Rakarra (Score:1) Tuesday October 31 2000, @03:27PM
  • Re:"Effectively controls access" by Shadowlion (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @01:38PM
  • Re:You just wait .... by powerlord (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @10:21AM
  • Is it illegal to retune your car? by Yousef (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @06:59AM
  • by sulli (195030) on Monday October 30 2000, @10:23AM (#665189) Journal
    Well, the trade press is on top of this too. Ed Foster of Infoworld writes this week: [infoworld.com]

    If you combine UCITA -- and its ability to enforce such things as shrinkwrap terms prohibiting product criticism and reverse engineering -- with the DMCA, what will we have? I fear it could be a form of censorship that will make the most despotic governments exceedingly envious.

    Good article. Send it to your legislator.

  • Re:Here begins a new era of flimsy hardware... by Wah (Score:1) Tuesday October 31 2000, @04:25PM
  • by werdna (39029) on Monday October 30 2000, @07:00AM (#665191) Homepage Journal
    New exempt categories set forth in the rule are:

    (1) Compilations consisting of lists of websites blocked by filtering software applications; and
    (2) Literary works, including computer programs and databases, protected by access control mechanisms that fail to permit access because of malfunction, damage or obsoleteness.

    Exemptions the Librarian rejected were:

    1. ``Thin Copyright'' Works
    2. Sole Source Works
    3. Audiovisual Works on Digital Versatile Discs (DVDs)
    4. Video Games in Formats Playable Only on Dedicated Platforms
    5. Computer Programs and Other Digital Works for Purposes of Reverse Engineering
    6. Encryption Research Purposes
    7. ``Fair Use'' Works
    8. Material that Cannot be Archived or Preserved
    9. Works Embodied in Copies Which Have Been Lawfully Acquired by Users
    10. Exemption for Public Broadcasting Entities
  • Re:Quick Sumary of Rulemaking by meldroc (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @01:40PM
  • My little side bar by occurance (Score:1) Tuesday October 31 2000, @06:32PM
  • Some legislative insight from a US Senator by sdo1 (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @01:45PM
  • The DMCA is meaningless by The Atog Lord (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @10:24AM
  • Internet speakeasies... by Wakko Warner (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:00AM
  • Re:Is it illegal to retune your car? by Yousef (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:01AM
  • Re:No. by remande (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @10:28AM
  • What about non-US? by plaa (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @10:28AM
  • Re:Circumvention illegalised ??! by JurriAlt137n (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:02AM
  • Re:"Effectively controls access" by Gameshow Bob (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:02AM
  • Oh, please by Art Tatum (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @01:57PM
  • Put Parliamentary Hansard on DVD by graystar (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @02:03PM
  • Geting devices. by moore (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:02AM
  • Re:Hmmm Its not quite *that* clear cut. by Millennium (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @02:05PM
  • Re:"Effectively controls access" by roman_mir (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @07:03AM
  • Re:Prohibition? by ocelotbob (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @10:32AM
  • if the company is pathetic by Lord Omlette (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @10:33AM
  • Say No to Culture Pimps & De-fund their Lobbysists by Nightspore (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @10:34AM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by WNight (Score:2) Wednesday November 01 2000, @05:33AM
  • Cookies by pclinger (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @02:31PM
  • Re:what do you mean by Bremen24601 (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:04AM
  • Encryption/scrambling vs. compression by Kreeblah (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @02:39PM
  • Re:The part that gets me... by sallen (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @03:03PM
  • Protest Early. Protest Often. by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:05AM
  • Re:Virus protection by sallen (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @03:09PM
  • by sdo1 (213835) on Monday October 30 2000, @07:06AM (#665217) Journal
    The DMCA came about to bring us into compliance with two global treaties as part of the World Intellectual Property Organzation. (WIPO... the same body that's giving legitimate domain names back to the companies with the biggest checkbooks).

    The two treaties in question are The WIPO Copyright Treaty [wipo.org] and The WIPO Performances and Phonograms Treaty [wipo.org].

    This isn't just the United States Government acting stupidly because lawmakers have sold out to the highest donors, it's being driven from abroad.

    Don't think the "anti-hacking" treaty could find its way into US law? Just wait!

    We, the users who's rights are being stripped away, are far to small of a voice, even if we all yelled together. Fair Use Rights are unknown to the vast majority of the population. They won't even notice when they've lost them because they never knew they had them.

    The best that we can do right now is to keep up the fight. Continue to violate the DMCA because we know it's a bogus law and unconstitutional. Copy DeCSS. Copy the Cue-Cat code. Support EFF. Buy a t-shirt from 2600. And most of all, don't let something as stupid as the DMCA stand in the way of exercising your fair use rights.

    -S

  • by dyfet (154716) on Monday October 30 2000, @07:06AM (#665218) Homepage
    Copyright is a TEMPORARY priviledge granted to encourage people to publish/produce works that will eventually become fully free to the public at large. While copyright goes back to english common law which has less to say on questions of freedom, this much is cleary stated by both Artile I of the US constitution, and as clearified a little bit in the writing of Madison in the Federalist papers, the idea of copyright being a priviledge granted temporarily in exchange for and to encourage full public availablility certainly is a key provision and aspect of virtually every copyright act passed by congress of historic note prior to the DMCA.

    I do not believe works that are provided in protected forms should even properly constitute works subject to or that should benifit from copyright protection. Clearly this was never intended, and access controls are by their very nature a restriction of the use of the work that denegrates the purpose of copyright as envisioned to "promote useful arts".

    Furthermore a "protected work" does not expire, since the protections on it never expire, and hence, it cannot ever go into the publics hands as specifically required by copyright and stated in article I itself; copyright is a temporary priviledge only, but protected works cannot unprotect themselves even if their theoretical copyright "expires".

    Copyright does imply a fairly broad priviledge for the period it is in effect, and some of this also can conflict with the publics right to a work, which is clearly a means test for copyright itself, while under copyright protection. Fair use laws exist in part to balance these potentially conflicting goals by specifically limiting rights of a published and copyrighted work.

    Clearly I do not believe that a "protected work" (or secret work, like say proprietary software) should enjoy or deserve what should only be a temporary priviledge of copyright at the public's expense. In this respect I do not believe what the copyright office chose to state is either ethical or constitutional, nor does it serve the publics interest for which it is ulimately required to uphold.

  • Building a gun by Grog6 (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @03:11PM
  • Re:Here begins a new era of flimsy hardware... by Ares (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:07AM
  • International aspects by Kryptonomic (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:08AM
  • Re:what do you mean by h3x0r (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:08AM
  • by rgmoore (133276) <glandauer@charter.net> on Monday October 30 2000, @07:11AM (#665223) Homepage
    Um, if it effectively controlled access wouldn't this law be *unnecessary*?

    No, not at all. Most of the specific instances of breaking encryption that have been brought up already have been the result of second rate access controls, but it is theoretically possible that somebody could break or otherwise circumvent a really good access control scheme- by reverse engineering, memory probing for decryption keys, or simple brute force and luck. Remember that no encryption scheme of the type needed for, say, a DVD player can be expected to survive a sufficiently motivated attack. Remember also that Congress has extended copyright to a ridiculously long term, so what seems like a reasonable and effective access control scheme today may be considered trivial to break before the copyright has expired.

  • Here's a good trick by spsheridan (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @03:28PM
  • by rknop (240417) on Monday October 30 2000, @07:12AM (#665225) Homepage

    If it weren't for the 2nd amendment, wide ranging gun control would have been a reality in this country long ago. Think what you like about gun control, or even the "militia" interpretation of the 2nd amendment, and so forth, that amendment is a clause in the Constitution which gun control opponents can point to, giving them a powerful ally.

    Unfortunately, there is no rule in the Constitution protecting our right to build and own technology-- devices or software. While shooting somebody with a gun is very illegal, owning the gun is not. You'd think that actually pirating, and violating copyright, is all that would need to be illegal. But, no, because we don't have a specific clause in the constitution protecting that right, even purchasing or building something which could be used for copyright violation is illegal. It's just crazy. It's so ironic I could just weep.

    Perhaps the gun lobby is powerful enough that it could be enlisted as an ally? The parallels are clear; devices which themselves are not illegal, but which have readily apparent illegal uses. Perhaps the gun lobby could be convinced that the DMCA, once it stands, could be used as a precedent to weaken their case further.

    It's really too bad that most of the population our country is not technically savvy enough to really understand these issues. As long as they can stick a DVD in their Windows machine and have it work, they're happy. And, they love to see the law crack down on all the dangerous pirates and hackers and similar scary people.

    -Rob

  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by Danse (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @03:37PM
  • Re:The part that gets me... by itachi (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @03:39PM
  • Digital Agenda Bill in Australia by graystar (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @03:43PM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by Dragoness Eclectic (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:13AM
  • Librarians Say Copyright Ruling Violates Fair-Use by Capt. Beyond (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @07:14AM
  • What are you bitching about? by www.sorehands.com (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @07:14AM
  • Re:Why I am ignoring this law by Danse (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @03:47PM
  • On the bright side: the end of Microsoft by rknop (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @07:14AM
  • by Booker (6173) on Monday October 30 2000, @07:15AM (#665234) Homepage
    (2) Literary works, including computer programs and databases, protected by access control mechanisms that fail to permit access because of malfunction, damage or obsoleteness.

    Hm...

    [sandeen@Porter sandeen]$ chmod +x winDVD.exe
    [sandeen@Porter sandeen]$ ./winDVD.exe
    bash: ./winDVD.exe: cannot execute binary file
    [sandeen@Porter sandeen]$

    Obviously malfunctioning... certainly failed to permit access...

    [sandeen@Porter sandeen]$ oms

    ---

  • Circumventing Doors by Elkor (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:15AM
  • Re:Oh, please by Danse (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @04:19PM
  • Re:Lets consider what copyright is... by kd5biv (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @04:21PM
  • Educational exemptions by NumberSyx (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:15AM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by Planesdragon (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:15AM
  • WIPO Re:Fast Forward by kbs (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @04:29PM
  • Re:International aspects by sdo1 (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:17AM
  • Re:Taco, your clock is wrong by NexusJedi (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @04:33PM
  • How to circumvent effective controls by kindbud (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @04:43PM
  • Re:"Effectively controls access" by Planesdragon (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:19AM
  • Oh, never mind by kindbud (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @04:46PM
  • There is no record by kindbud (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @04:59PM
  • Re:Anti-Circumvention by Planesdragon (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:21AM
  • Re:Circumventing Doors by DavidTC (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @05:01PM
  • Re:Circumventing Doors by delysid-x (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:22AM
  • Re:Sad State of Affairs and Why you should Vote by kbooth11 (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @05:10PM
  • Haha (Score:3)

    by redhog (15207) on Monday October 30 2000, @07:23AM (#665251) Homepage
    So, world, we just have to wait, and the technical knowledge of the US will slowly but steadily degrade. Soon, they'l be in their own little stone-age. if feel sorry for the smart people in the US, but they may perheaps flee before it's too late. Unfourtunately, I don't know if fleeing to the EU will make it any better for you... We may ass well soon be a burning hole...
  • Re:Sad State of Affairs and Why you should Vote by kbooth11 (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @05:11PM
  • Democracy purchased by corporations. by Cavio (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @07:41AM
  • Who decides? by Mathonwy (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @07:24AM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by Alex Belits (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @07:42AM
  • Geez... by Planesdragon (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:25AM
  • the solution: Micro$oft = obsolete by xlation (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:43AM
  • by nagora (177841) on Monday October 30 2000, @07:26AM (#665258)
    From section C of Title 17 Chapter 12:

    (c) Other Rights, Etc., Not Affected. - (1) Nothing in this section shall affect rights, remedies, limitations, or defenses to copyright infringement, including fair use, under this title.

    So, fair use as defined in Chapter 1 section 107 still stands. Case 4 of that section makes it clear that making an incidental copy (such as with DeCSS), of a work in order to view/listen to it is fine if the incidental copy is not distributed, ie if the actions take to use the work have no effect on the market for the product. If I use DeCSS to make a version of a movie that I can watch on my computer I'm in the clear so long as I don't ever let anyone else possess that copy

    So, where's the problem? It is that the whole DeCSS thing revolves around MPAA pretending DeCSS's primary function is duplication for distribution (which breaches para 4 of 1:107 since it reduces the market for the "genuine" product). Now they know this is a lie, and we all know it's a lie. The real reason is that they want to protect their monopoly on DVD players and the licence fees from that. The weakness of this argument is that the copies they claim are the main purpose are so bulky and inconvienient compared to a bitwise copy of the disc that it makes no sense to use DeCSS for this purpose, which only leaves the legal use.

    Surely this can't be that hard to demonstrate in front of a judge?

    TWW

  • Re:The part that gets me... by RGSharpe (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:43AM
  • Re:What are you bitching about? by A coward on a mouse (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:43AM
  • Hey, look on the bright side... by Millennium (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @07:43AM
  • Re:Look who's talking for us! by AFCArchvile (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:44AM
  • Re:What are you bitching about? by d^2b (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:44AM
  • by Prior Restraint (179698) on Monday October 30 2000, @07:46AM (#665264)

    Effective access control? Hee hee hee... well now, that in itself is open to debate isn't it?

    No, it isn't. RTFA:

    17 U.S.C., 1201. (a)(3)(B) A technological measure "effectively controls access to a work" if the measure, in the ordinary course of its operation, requires the application of information, or a process or a treatment, with the authority of the copyright owner, to gain access to the work.

    As I posted in a previous article, whereas most /.ers take "effectively" to mean "in an effective way", the law is written so that it means "for all practical purposes" (thank you, dictionary.com [dictionary.com]). This means that if someone uses even the simplest of access controls, like base-64 + XOR [digitalconvergence.com], it "effectively controls access", even if that access control becomes widely known.

  • Re:There is an hope for a solution by delysid-x (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:27AM
  • help the EFF take this to the Supreme Court... by geekotourist (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @07:28AM
  • Re:Prohibition? by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:31AM
  • No. by Planesdragon (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:31AM
  • Outlawing that which made America great by maddogsparky (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:31AM
  • Re:HOLD ON! What about section C??? by Dr.Dubious DDQ (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @07:47AM
  • Re:Circumventing Doors by UnknownSoldier (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @07:47AM
  • No one can FORCE you to watch.... by yankeehack (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @07:34AM
  • Re:Fast Forward by operagost (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:36AM
  • Re:Quick Sumary of Rulemaking by egburr (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:48AM
  • Re:Copyright owner's permission? by Sloppy (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @07:50AM
  • DVD Access Rights (Score:3)

    by Coward, Anonymous (55185) on Monday October 30 2000, @07:50AM (#665276)
    When I purchase a DVD, aren't I implicitly granted access to the contents on the DVD? As such, I should be allowed to use DeCSS to access the DVD to which I have access rights to. It seems to me that DeCSS is not used for circumvention of DVD's anymore than a dvd player is used for circumvention (they both decrypt the DVD), anyone who uses either one already has (or at least ought to have) right to access the DVD. DeCSS does allow you to decrypt Region X DVD's in Region Y, but since you could buy a Region X DVD player to do the same, and since the copyright office reasoned that since you could buy a Windows machine or a DVD player... that there was no reason for an exemption, then DeCSS should not be faulted for its multi region ability since multi region ability can be gained by purchasing more than on DVD player (or a single DVD player that supports more than one region) and the copyright office seems to think that the use of DeCSS and the purchase of DVD players are appropriate substitues.
  • Re:On the bright side: the end of Microsoft by Technician (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:50AM
  • I Can't Drive 55 (Score:3)

    by sulli (195030) on Monday October 30 2000, @07:51AM (#665278) Journal
    Do unto the DMCA as was done to the 55-mph speed limit and to Prohibition

    This makes a lot of sense, provided that circumvention tools and so on can continue to be made available. Unfortunately we are in a more difficult situation than in the case of 55 mph, though, because that law had very little public support and was ignored by most state troopers, particularly towards the end of its life in the early nineties. The current case is more like a regulation requiring that 55 mph speed governors be installed on all cars, or (as is the case in Japan) overspeed alarms, and forbidding owners from disabling them.

    I think our best bet is to do two things:

    1. get these provisions overturned by the Supreme Court on the basis of free speech;
    2. buy only non-copy-protected content when we have the choice (i.e. stay the fuck away from SDMI encoded digital music and CDs).

    It's a pretty gloomy scenario, but I for one will be doubling my annual gift to the EFF.

  • Re:Anti-Circumvention by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:52AM
  • Re:Master of puppets is pulling our strings. by AFCArchvile (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:53AM
  • Re:Who decides? by grahamm (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:36AM
  • You just wait .... by taniwha (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:37AM
  • Hey! It's the best government money can buy! by wwphx (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:37AM
  • Re:Fast Forward by Eponymous, Showered (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:39AM
  • Re:Boycotts are futile nowadays. by AFCArchvile (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @07:39AM
  • This sucks. by Stephen Samuel (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @07:39AM
  • Re:The part that gets me... by jmccay (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:53AM
  • Re:Quick Sumary of Rulemaking by ASM (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:40AM
  • Look who's talking for us! by DG (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @07:41AM
  • Re:Fast Forward by lizardboy (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:41AM
  • by sulli (195030) on Monday October 30 2000, @07:55AM (#665291) Journal
    A well informed Public, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Technology, shall not be infringed.
  • Taco, your clock is wrong by stubob (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:56AM
  • Re:HOLD ON! What about section C??? by NumberSyx (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @07:56AM
  • I forgot to mention: Thoughtcrime by Stephen Samuel (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @07:56AM
  • by kaphka (50736) <1nv7b001@sneakemail.com> on Monday October 30 2000, @07:57AM (#665295)
    Unfortunately, there is no rule in the Constitution protecting our right to build and own technology-- devices or software.
    Yes, there is. It's right there at the top of the Bill of Rights. "Software" is a description of a method or sequence of actions -- nothing more, nothing less. Descriptions are speech. Speech is protected.

    Even after all of this, I'm still confident that the DMCA will be torn apart by the Supreme Court. I only find it disturbing that our President and Congress have so poor an understanding of the Constitution that they could allow something like this to become law in the first place.
  • Re:Prohibition? by ocelotbob (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @08:37AM
  • Re:"Effectively controls access" by plague3106 (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:37AM
  • Sad State of Affairs and Why you should Vote by Krieger (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:57AM
  • Re:I am ignoring this law... by Zara2 (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:38AM
  • No Foresight by Catiline (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:39AM
  • Re:Internet speakeasies... by sulli (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @07:58AM
  • Win some, lose some... by Twon (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:00AM
  • Re:The part that gets me... by Bill Currie (Score:2) Monday October 30 2000, @08:41AM
  • Re:Win some, lose some... by Twon (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:02AM
  • Hmmm Its not quite *that* clear cut. by tubs (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:42AM
  • Re:Get me some Kleenex. by Prior Restraint (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:02AM
  • Re:The constitution was written too early by Stonehand (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:43AM
  • Re:'Terminator' Gene (slightly OT) by Dr.Dubious DDQ (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:44AM
  • Re:On the bright side: the end of Microsoft by Sloppy (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:03AM
  • Re:Look who's talking for us! by ethereal (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:03AM
  • Re:And furthermore... by AFCArchvile (Score:1) Monday October 30 2000, @08:04AM
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