Love In The Time of Warcraft 87
Via Edge Online, an article at the Wall Street Journal talking about the process of finding love in an MMOG. From the article: "Nick Yee, a Ph.D. student in the Department of Communication at Stanford University who studies online games, found in a survey earlier this year that 29% of women players and 8% of men said they had gone on to date someone they met in a game. He says the games are filled with scenarios that shed light on players' personalities. A risky raid on a dungeon, for example, can reveal whether someone is a team player. 'These are trust-building exercises,' he says. Players 'are constantly having to make decisions like, Do I run out and save myself or help the others survive?' Situations that reveal so much about someone's character are less common in the real world, he thinks. Yankee Group, a Boston technology-research firm, estimates that MMOGs, which can be played simultaneously by thousands of people using the Internet, are played by 25 million to 30 million people world-wide."
i know all there is to know about the crying game (Score:4, Funny)
Been there, done that. (Score:2, Interesting)
You'd be amazed how far suggestions, fake photos, voice modulation software, and a little creativity can get you. It is just social engineering, after all.
Keep in mind, you only ever hear about the people who fail. Some of us can and have faked it for a very long t
Re:Been there, done that. (Score:2)
Sadly, Yes, I'm a fur, and apparently I have a better idea of what happens than some anonymous troll who's never been to AC unless he was SEVERELY SHELTERED at the con and was never exposed to practically 100% of the attendees.
Re:Been there, done that. (Score:1)
Re:And *that* is why... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:And *that* is why... (Score:2)
Re:i know all there is to know about the crying ga (Score:5, Funny)
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My God! (Score:5, Funny)
We need to stop that. Those stereotypes and social stigmas are time honored and sacred traditions. If we lose those, the terrorists have already won.
I need to be able to say, "Well, at least I didn't meet my wife online!" in order to point out how obviously better I am than everyone else. I got drunk at a bar and knocked my wife up and that's how I became happily married. My son and his son are going to do the same thing if I have anything to say about it!
This is change & I don't like it. We need to stay as static as possible and prevent this from becoming the norm. Sure kids in my day listened to rock music and went to dances despite what our parents said
Someone get me Jack Thompson, we need a man of religious convictions that will secure the sanctity of this nation!
Re:My God! (Score:1)
"Games are teaching our children to find love (well, ok, teenagers. Actually adults, ah screw it, we'll just say children and hope they don't notice the age range). This must be stopped at once! Think people - your children could be FALLING IN LOVE WITH SOMEONE RIGHT NOW! It's sickening. Games must be banned before more people find happiness!"
Oh, and the real JT could probably work something in there about child predators. You know, jus
Re:My God! (Score:3, Informative)
I'm lost...Well at least my soul is.
I met my wife online AND she now plays World of Warcraft.
So much sin in the house, so much immorality! I can't take it anymore. I need to...I need to...KILL RAGNAROS AGAIN!
Re:Mockery is funny? (Score:1, Insightful)
As opposed to? I can experience more "life" from my house than most people experience sitting wasted in a bar all evening. Working with friends and teammates to take down a giant boss is more of an accomplishment to me than hiring a tour guide to take me to the top of Mt Everest.
Re:Mockery is funny? (Score:2)
In other words, you're ridicously fit and extremly bad at playing computer games?
Re:Mockery is funny? (Score:2)
As apposed to the fantasy world of the bible which is supposedly the foundation of the western moral code?
Re:My God! (Score:3, Interesting)
http://www.gay-web-links.com/article.php?n=3 [gay-web-links.com]
I'm actually quite an attractive guy, if only I got past my shyness and talked to people the way I know how to after years of chatting with pe
Re:My God! (Score:2, Funny)
Channeling Jack at your request:
Marriage is a sacret institution between a man and a woman, NOT between a night-elf and an orc.
Something Awful (Score:5, Funny)
Epic Mounts, Part 1 [somethingawful.com] and Part 2 [somethingawful.com].
Re:Something Awful (Score:1)
Thanks for those links.
Whew! Glad I'm not single and desparate in a MMO.
lollerskates (Score:3, Funny)
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Nick has been around a long time... (Score:2)
-Rick
finishing a PhD? (Score:1)
Re:finishing a PhD? (Score:1)
I would estimate 24 - 26 million worldwide (Score:4, Informative)
Bruce
Like some geeky dream... (Score:1)
Druid Pick up lines (Score:1, Funny)
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Why they play, m vs. f (Score:3, Interesting)
It's much higher for women. The question is, why? A reasonable conclusion could be that more females participate in MMORPGs for social reasons than for pure gameplay. One question worth investigating is the ages of male vs. female players. Might it be that female players are generally older?
As one leaves school, one also leaves behind social opportunities for dating--most people find that it is a lot easier finding dates in college than at work.
Re:Why they play, m vs. f (Score:1)
Re:Why they play, m vs. f (Score:2, Insightful)
1000 women play WoW
29% of this measn 290 of them have dated
3625 men play WoW
290 men to date the 290 men = 8%
it's probably the huge sausage party atmosphere that keeps this statistic so seemingly off balance.
Re:Why they play, m vs. f (Score:2)
The inference in this argument is that one unique man has a date with one unique woman.
Also, you're suggesting that if there were 3625 women playing, still only 290 of them would date. In other words, you're suggesting that 8% is the "real" number of people who would find a date in WoW or another MMORPG.
I'm suggesting that if 3625 women were playing WoW, more than 290 of them would be looking to find a
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Incidentally, I haven't dated anyone that I met on World of Warcraft, but I have gone out with a few guys that I met via MUDs. Nothing ever came of it, t
Re:Why they play, m vs. f (Score:2)
Really? Wanna go on a date?
Re:Why they play, m vs. f (Score:2)
Hey, wanna go on a raid? I hear there is some good loot to be had.
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Baby, You Mean The World Of Warcraft To Me (Score:3, Funny)
Part of the eHarmony matrix? eHarmony MMPORG! (Score:4, Funny)
"When Johhny cast the spell of Eternal Light and destroyed the dark lord I just knew he was the man for me!"
eHarmony MMPORG
Re:Part of the eHarmony matrix? eHarmony MMPORG! (Score:1)
But when you are in normal game situations you will react somewhat like you react in real life. Also 29% of woman dating people from MMORPGs I need to watch who my wife is going on raids with...
Surprising Results.... (Score:3, Interesting)
Then again, maybe the difference is explained by gender-biased definitions of "flirting". Maybe most guys think saying, "Wow, you've got a nice rack!" doesn't count as flirting, whereas maybe women think simply typing a winky-smiley-face counts as flirting.
Bruce
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My Personal Experience (Score:2)
Re:My Personal Experience (Score:3, Interesting)
Mine too, and she's all about the DPS (and the more dramatic the mob's death animation is, the happier she is). I'd be interested in seeing a breakdown on what classes men and women are drawn too. My theory is that a lot of girls who game are using virtual worlds as an outlet for aggressive tendencies they can't or won't express in their real-world societal roles.
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Sad man (Score:2, Funny)
> online games
And you thought `media studies` students were a waste of skin...
It's All in the Numbers (Score:3, Insightful)
This means either...
Only 8% of the men are smart enough to know how to score a date through WoW so far, and are doing it multiple times...
21% of the women are dating each other!
Re:It's All in the Numbers (Score:1)
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Re:It's All in the Numbers (Score:3, Funny)
Do you mean that all those lovely Blood Elves are guys!!! Now you've totally burst my bubble.
Re:It's All in the Numbers (Score:2)
Its true - sort of. (Score:3, Interesting)
My girlfriend and I (who met 7 years ago online but not in a MMOG) are heading down to the US next week to party with the folks we played EQ1 and now play WoW with. This is the third year for us, and the 4th year for the guild as a whole to hold an annual picnic. And ya know what? Its a blast, we don't just sit around re-hashing raids, or talking gear or skills, but actually find that we have this odd bond of trust and openess (likely due to spending countless hours together in somewhat stressful situations). We were really nervous the first year, but look forward to it even more each year. We are expecting from 40-50 people to show up this year, from all over the US (and us two from Canada). Quite a few of us are couples, yes, some are guys who play girls online (oddly most of them single), and there is not a large number of single women in our guild (but there is a few).
Character development (Score:1)
some thoughts (Score:1)
I will not be so worried about the "security of the sanctity of this nation". But it seems to be some truth in the fact that some people shows some parts of their personality playing online.
I've been playing online since '96 or '97, a popular local MUD named "The Crow". And now I play RO, and in these long time I've discovered that it's not really easy to find good and thrustworty people. Some are easy to tell only by just listening (well reading) how do they speak. Some others are fownd by watching the
I know of such things (Score:3, Funny)
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Re:I know of such things (Score:1)
"There is a married woman in my guild who is cheating on her husband with someone she met in my WoW guild. I feel really bad for the guy. It's not all roses."
Ooooooh, that's the worst diss ever! Can't you just see it now?
Girl: Who's that Tim guy? Is he single?
Friend: Yeah, but he's kind of a loser.
Girl: Why?
Friend: Well...let's just say his last wife left him for a guy she met online in a role-playing game.
Girl: Ooooh.
World of Lovecraft? (Score:1)
(And love in WoW? Not from anyone on the wrong end of inedible heart candy spam, I'll wager.)
Re:Well... (Score:1)
"If I'm gonna be looking at someones ass for hours on end, I want it to be cute and female."
Ira
But Yee's respondents self-select (Score:2, Insightful)
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Re:But Yee's respondents self-select (Score:1)
In the last 10 years of online gaming (mainly MUDs, with the graphical MMOGs only being the last couple of years for me) I've probably seen a good 10-15 relationships form