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Misconfigured Webserver, Threats to Call FBI 564

the_harlequin writes "The Register is reporting that a city manager threatened to call the FBI over a misconfigured webserver. From the article: "The heartland turned vicious this week when an Oklahoma town threatened to call in the FBI because its web site was hacked by Linux maker CentOS. Problem is CentOS didn't hack Tuttle's web site at all. The city's hosting provider had simply botched a web server." "
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Misconfigured Webserver, Threats to Call FBI

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  • Law Suit! (Score:2, Funny)

    by Elitist_Phoenix ( 808424 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @10:25AM (#15002450)
    If you don't remove this inflamitory comment I'm calling the FBI!
  • by Mattygfunk1 ( 596840 ) * on Monday March 27, 2006 @10:25AM (#15002451)
    "Get this web site off my home page!!!!! It is blocking access to my website!!!!~!," Taylor responded, clearly excited about the situation and sensing that Bin Laden was near.

    He forgot the 1s but the tilda was creative.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 27, 2006 @10:25AM (#15002455)
    This page cannot be displayed due to an internal error. If you are the administrator of this site, please visit the Xoops Troubleshooting Page for assistance. Error [Xoops]: Unable to connect to database in file class/database/databasefactory.php line 34
  • by beheaderaswp ( 549877 ) * on Monday March 27, 2006 @10:26AM (#15002463)
    Overheard at the city council meeting:

    "Someone unplugged my keyboard- Call the FBI Alice!!!"
  • by ralphart ( 70342 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @10:27AM (#15002465)
    This just confirms what we Texans have known for years...(ducking for cover).
  • oh man.. (Score:5, Funny)

    by mattpointblank ( 936343 ) <mattpointblank&gmail,com> on Monday March 27, 2006 @10:27AM (#15002470) Homepage
    Haha, I love how each of the Manager's replies show a complete ignorance of the previous, helpful message from the CentOS tech. I had a similar situation trying to explain to my uncle (who I was building a site for) about how SMTP works and why mail forwarding only worked before we changed his nameservers (since he only bought domain names and not hosting). I spent a painstaking 20 minutes explaining it in layman's terms, only for him to pause then say, "My email isn't working". The CentOS guy should get a medal for keeping so calm here.
  • by iapetus ( 24050 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @10:28AM (#15002475) Homepage
    Indeed. Basmati rice [tilda.com] always adds that personal (if slightly bizarre) touch to an e-mail.

    The tilde was quite creative too. :P
  • by gEvil (beta) ( 945888 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @10:28AM (#15002486)
    That's nothing. Over the years I've been the victim of some ruthless Native American terrorist organization that always seems to hack my webpage within minutes of installing the server.
  • by dildo ( 250211 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @10:29AM (#15002490)
    For some reason, this reminds me of the time that a woman called my branch of the company and said: "We're all out of paper over here... could you fax some over?"

  • HAX (Score:5, Funny)

    by Bega ( 684994 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @10:29AM (#15002495) Homepage Journal
    "Get this web site off my home page!!!!! It is blocking access to my website!!!!~!," Taylor responded, clearly excited about the situation and sensing that Bin Laden was near.
    how do you remove a web site off of a home page? pls email me telling how this can be done, my home site was just hacked by apple :(
  • by Weaselmancer ( 533834 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @10:30AM (#15002497)

    ...to complain about a DDOS attack. Behold, the power of Slashdot!

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 27, 2006 @10:30AM (#15002507)
    The Department of Records [deadrabbit.org] must have the name of the website wrong and confused it with Buttle instead of Tuttle, we will correct it as soon as possible. In the mean time, we do not apologize for disrupting your webserver, and we will not reimburse you one penny nor will we fix the damage caused.
  • Hacked... (Score:2, Funny)

    by WED Fan ( 911325 ) <akahige@tras[ ]il.net ['hma' in gap]> on Monday March 27, 2006 @10:31AM (#15002510) Homepage Journal
    My computer is routinely hacked by Microsoft, should I call. It happens at least once a month, sometimes weekly. I have another one that is hacked by commies, I know they are commies, they use GPL.
  • by MECC ( 8478 ) * on Monday March 27, 2006 @10:32AM (#15002520)
    I have contacted the City's network administrator wnd he has done nothing to install your CentOS software. I have contacted our Internet provider and they know nothing about your software. I am computer literate! I have 22 years in computer systems engineering and operation.

    Hmm... 22 years as a manager, maybe. As if that counted for anything. Then, to make matters worse, he talked to a 'network administrator', who thanks to MS always refering to windows admins as 'network administrators' is a just a windows admin. A case of the blind leading the blind. Or, the windows admins leading the windows users.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 27, 2006 @10:32AM (#15002525)
    "The CentOS guy should get a medal for keeping so calm here."

    Why? I never got one. I do however have a lovely ulcer collection.
  • by elrous0 ( 869638 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @10:35AM (#15002544)
    Some people might accuse them of overeacting. But if you had Osama Bin Laden breathing down *YOUR* neck every day, you'd be pretty nervous too.

    -Eric

  • by Enigma_Man ( 756516 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @10:40AM (#15002572) Homepage

    The comic-sans on his website [tuttle-ok.gov] is hilarious as well.

    -Jesse
  • by Madman ( 84403 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @10:40AM (#15002584) Homepage
    Isn't it gratifying and re-assuring to know that we have public officials who are intelligent and qualified enough to read an error page, and then savvy enough to: a) look up the company's web site, and then b) effectively and efficiently manage the problem to the satisfaction of all parties involved. We should bestow him with praises.

    Rest assured people of Oklahoma, your IT is in good hands!
  • by digitaldc ( 879047 ) * on Monday March 27, 2006 @10:42AM (#15002597)
    ...but, alas, they do not have email!

    Can you imagine? [slashdot.org]
  • by Chas ( 5144 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @10:51AM (#15002662) Homepage Journal
    J00 h4x0r3d my b0x0rz!

    I g0nna 5U3 J00!

    I b c0mput3r literit! I k3n d0 it!

    God. People this stupid and obtuse (fewer problems with people who're more friendly in their stupidity) make me want to go out on a shooting spree.

    If I'd been Johnny, I'd have told the guy to go fuck himself after about the first threat and then blackholed his e-mail address.
  • by aborchers ( 471342 ) * on Monday March 27, 2006 @10:55AM (#15002703) Homepage Journal
    From one of Taylor's letters:

    "I have no fear of the media, in fact I welcome this publicity."

    You think he still welcomes it today?

  • Tuttle? (Score:5, Funny)

    by microcars ( 708223 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @10:56AM (#15002712) Homepage
    its a mistake, it was supposed to read BUTTLE....
  • by daputz ( 255605 ) * on Monday March 27, 2006 @10:56AM (#15002714) Homepage
    To: citymgr@cityoftuttle.org

    Subject: Need your help in entertaining the tech community

    Jerry,
    I understand that you have 22 years of experience computer systems engineering and operation are are computer literate. I need your help in entertaining the Internet technical community.

    I think it would be hilarious if we loaded the default page on on a web server for the city (one with instructions on how to fix the problem) and then complained about it to the the maker of the operating system. Yuk, yuk! We can even (get this) whine that all the computers in the building show the same default page when you surf to the site. Bwaaahhhaaahhhaaa! Then (I can hardly contain myself) let's accuse the poor saps of hacking our server and threaten to call the FBI!!! Teeehhheeehhheeee!

    Oh, oh, my sides hurt. This is going to be great. You setup the server and I'll.... Oh, I'm just reading slashdot and see that you already done it. Well, I guess you thought of it before me. Good one.
  • by Fishstick ( 150821 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @11:02AM (#15002756) Journal
    yep

    I am please to serve the citizens of the City of Tuttle.

    I guess it's a good thing he isn't running the school board or anything.
  • by amliebsch ( 724858 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @11:15AM (#15002858) Journal
    This guy epitomizes problems we all see every day: Incompetents who don't recognize their own incompetence.

    I doubt we all visit Slashdot every day.

  • by loconet ( 415875 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @11:15AM (#15002866) Homepage
    Here is a recent picture of our hero, Jerry [tuttle-ok.gov], and here is a picture of him [tiscali.co.uk] during his earlier years.
  • by Soothh ( 473349 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @11:24AM (#15002947)
    I found the problem... Jerry has an MBA. that explains it all.
    Be sure that if you email him, to use crayon type fonts and only primary colors.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 27, 2006 @11:26AM (#15002959)
    if you want a really fun time give jerry a call at the number listed on the site, he will actually talk to you, however he seems to have something against "mario players" and he may ask you if you partake in this passtime. The only thing i can say after that rather entertaining conversation is Asshat
  • by tuttle ( 973 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @11:30AM (#15002996)
    My website looks just fine.
  • by AtariDatacenter ( 31657 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @11:33AM (#15003024)
    Since you were 8, you married an Ada woman and lived in Norman? That explains it! :)
  • by First Person ( 51018 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @11:37AM (#15003066)

    This just confirms what we Texans have known for years...(ducking for cover).

    You really have to worry about a place that feels it needs to reassure people that 'Oklahoma is OK'.

  • by FellowConspirator ( 882908 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @11:42AM (#15003117)
    How's he ever going to learn if we just make fun of him? I, for one, sent him a CentOS DVD and a kind note supporting him in his time of public embarrassment.

    Come to think of it, why doesn't every one do that?
  • by utdpenguin ( 413984 ) <john@NospAM.kendrick.com> on Monday March 27, 2006 @11:43AM (#15003127) Homepage
    Or??

    Blood AND Marriage surely :)
  • by dfjunior ( 774213 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @11:44AM (#15003130)
    Huh. That's [tuttle-ok.gov] strange...

  • by mOOzilla ( 962027 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @11:44AM (#15003134)
    Hello, I have recently read the news story concerning recent terrorist attacks on your web site on http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/27/ 135221 [slashdot.org] and on http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/24/tuttle_cen tos/ [theregister.co.uk] Thank you for hours of entertainment for me and my family. I hereby nominate you for the "Pompous Arrogant Prick 2006" award. Best of luck on your "War On Terrorism (TM)".
  • Sure... (Score:3, Funny)

    by JollyFinn ( 267972 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @11:45AM (#15003142)
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 27, 2006 @12:02PM (#15003302)
    Unfortunately, some people are below average when it comes to statistics.
  • Re:Sure... (Score:3, Funny)

    by ralphart ( 70342 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @12:08PM (#15003358)
    He may swagger like a Texan, but remember, he was born in Connecticutt and allegedly educated at Yale. We can't claim all the credit.
  • by Schraegstrichpunkt ( 931443 ) * on Monday March 27, 2006 @12:26PM (#15003509) Homepage
    I am computer literate!

    Um, sir, I don't think 'computer literacy' refers merely to the ability to read text on computers...

  • by dheltzel ( 558802 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @01:13PM (#15003851)
    I have to give the guy a lot of credit for being helpful. If it were me, I'm afraid I would have said "OK, OK, we'll get it off there in the next update cycle", then blacklisted his email address and let him figure it out himself.

    Then I would have posted it on slashdot while the error page was still up for additional comic relief :)
  • by Shawn is an Asshole ( 845769 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @01:22PM (#15003910)
    This guy sounds like many of the people I work with...

    (over the phone)
    User: My password doesn't work!
    Me: Is the capslock on?
    User: No.
    Me: Are you sure? Please check and make sure it isn't on.
    User: It's not on.
    Me: I'll be right over
    /me drives over
    /me looks at keyboard
    Me: You're capslock is on.
    /me turns it off
    /user logs in successfully

    Or this:

    (over the phone)
    User: The server is down. Come over here and fix it.
    Me: Let me check
    /me ssh's in and checks the servers. Nothing wrong. Ping user's computer. Nothing wrong.
    Me: Everything looks fine.
    User: No it's not. The server is down.
    Me: Can you be more specific? What can't you access?
    User: The server. Fix it.
    Me: I'll be right over.
    /me drives over
    User: See, it won't come up. Fix it.

    (The problem? The user is trying to access some website that isn't responding. Somehow I'm responsible for every server on the Internet...) /me wants a new job.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 27, 2006 @01:26PM (#15003945)
    And he claims to have a BSEE. A shame to the profession he is, yes.
  • by Firehed ( 942385 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @01:28PM (#15003962) Homepage
    http://despair.com/incompetence.html [despair.com] - 'Nuff said.
  • by Kurt Gray ( 935 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @02:03PM (#15004229) Homepage Journal
    So what? I found unauthorized copies of all my files at IP address 127.0.0.1 which I was able to login into using the same password as my machine. Whoever has that IP address will be hearing from the FBI very soon and then they will sorry.
  • by Coyote ( 9900 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @02:15PM (#15004331)
    Alrighty then, allow me to recount my fav Stupid User story, which took place in (where else?) Oklahoma:

    I was contracted to help a new guy learn the ropes in his new job as "engineer." One day he called and complained that his mouse didn't work. I asked a few questions to get a hint what it was or wasn't doing, expecting it to be unplugged, dirty or just plain broke. Nothing seemed to be wrong with it, and I finally asked, "OK, what is it doing that makes you say it's not working?" He answered, "It just doesn't work right."

    I offered to make the hour drive at my usual rate, and he agreed. I went to his office and asked him to show me what was wrong. He was holding the mouse SIDEWAYS, so every time he moved it, the cursor went 90 degrees from the direction he wanted, and he said, "See? It doesn't work right."

    I thought to myself, "Hunh, I didn't think to ask THAT one, so much for the 'intuitive interface," turned the mouse, said "Now try it."

    Yes, it does sound too bizarre to be true, but remember... it was in Oklahoma.

  • by fshalor ( 133678 ) <fshalor@comcas t . net> on Monday March 27, 2006 @03:03PM (#15004707) Homepage Journal
    At least it wasn't "Buttle". ;)
  • by killjoe ( 766577 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @03:48PM (#15005105)
    True story.

    User: My computer won't come on.
    me: Did you plug it in?
    User: Yes.
    Me: What happens when you turn on the computer.
    User: It makes a weird sound
    Me: I better come over and take a look.

    I go over and turn the monitor on for her. The weird sound was the hard drive turning on and the initial beep.
  • by __aaxwdb6741 ( 884633 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @03:49PM (#15005106) Journal
    Oh, dude.
    Untill the end of December '05 I worked for this small company. My boss was one of those people who think they are absolutely never wrong, and bend their own statements if they are proved definitively wrong. He knows absolutely nothing about computers. Once, this happened:

    Him: I have a virus. Why do I have virus? You're the worst IT-man this company has ever had.
    Me: You dont have a virus. That's impossible per definition. Wanna bet $100? /me heads over to laptop. Does a full virus scan, finds nothing.
    Me: So, uh. Where is the virus?
    Him: [enters a website URL. Clicks a link, get's a website that says "YOU HAVE A VIRUS!" /me D'ohs

    At least I got $100...
  • by infochuck ( 468115 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @05:08PM (#15005855)
    I recognize that I am an incompetent astronaut. I also recognize that I am an incompetent heart surgeon.

    It's not enough merely to claim incompetence; you have to really believe it. I sense doubt in your voice.
  • by Macgrrl ( 762836 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @08:16PM (#15007427)

    some of my favourite - it really happened to me - IT customer service stories.

    I spent a year or so working in a retail computer outlet in a large discout chain (I blame Apple for this, it was during their flirtation with selling Apples through non-reseller chains). It was during the same period that IBM compatibles changed from 5.25" to 3.5" floppy drives. I had a customer come in and buy a new 3.5" drive one afternoon. The following day they came back with the drive asking for a replacement, as it was clearly faulty. They complained that they had installed in into thier computer and tried to use their exisiting disks in it and none had worked. After further enquiy, it turned out that they had found their 5.25" disks had not fitted in the drive, so they had cut them down with a pair of scissors to make them fit, having done so, they found the new drive incapable to read them.

    Same place, different customer. Came in wanting a warranty replacement on their new keyboard, it was giving erratic multi-keystroke responses. The keyboard was bent with a tire track across it.

    Same place, yet another customer. Sold them a new PC with a fax modem as one of the items on the component list. The following weekend they came back into the store to find me. They had a question, could I perhaps show them on the floor demonstration unit where to load the fax paper.

    Same place (I hated the place with a vengence), different customer. Came in with their brand new Apple Powerbook demanading a warranty replacement. It was a PB 180 (I think) with the grey rectangular power brick adaptor. The computer had shorted out and they demended that Apple replace it. The AC adaptor no longer had the block transformer on the end of the cable, instread it had a standard 3 pin plug on the end. When asked why this was the case, they said that the block had not fitted to the powerpoint on thier skirting board, so they had cut it off (the transformer) and installed the new plug on the end of the cable. They could now understand why I refused to process the claim as a warranty issue.

    Different place, different customer. Was asked to do an insurance assessment on repairing a computer which had been sprayed with a chemical fire extinguisher some weeks earlier, it had not been cleaned in the interim...

    I've got dozens more, but they're my favourites. So glad I don't do retail any more.

  • by mbessey ( 304651 ) on Monday March 27, 2006 @09:20PM (#15007773) Homepage Journal
    In my case, I was working in field service for a small factory automation manufacturer (this was nearly 20 years ago, now). We get a call that a customer is having a problem with their system failing the security check at start-up.

    At that time, our software was copy-protected by means of a parallel port dongle that absolutely would NOT work correctly if there was a printer daisy-chained off the dongle, and the printer was turned off. Because this was an entirely predictable failure mode, the error message read something like: "Security verification error. Make sure your software key is installed on the parallel port, and ENSURE THAT THE PRINTER IS TURNED ON (if you have one)"

    So the first question I ask the guy when he gets transferred over to me is whether or not he has the key installed, and whether his printer is turned on. "Of course it is - I wouldn't be calling if I hadn't already checked that!". So I ask him exactly what the error message is, and he tells me it's the one I paraphrased above, which you will recall only happens if your printer is turned off.

    Now, it's possible that his key has gone bad in a way that no other key we've had fail before ever has, but it doesn't seem terribly likely to me, so I ask him if he can check to make sure the little green light on the printer is illuminated. He claims that it is, and starts getting very agitated about how much of a problem it is for him that he can't run the analysis he needs to run, and we need to fix this pronto.

    So, I load a new printer, a new key, a new cable, and anything else that might be useful into the company van, and drive out to this factory (2.5 hours one way). When I get there, I go into the plant, turn on the printer, and drive back.

    Total time onsite: less than 5 minutes
    Total drive time: 6 hours (rush-hour on the way back)
    Total cost to customer: $350 (or about $600 in today's dollars)
        1 hour minimum labor @ $50/hour
        6 hours drive time @ $50/hour

    [[ insert your own "priceless" MasterCard advertisement here ]]

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