What's The Difference Between A CIO And A CTO? 117
an anonymous coward asks: "I'm a general manager at a software company assigned the task to set up a proposal for a more scalable management structure. I've been researching how several other companies did the restructuring when they became too large for the traditional model but I ran into one strange bit: CIOs and CTOs. Some companies have neither, some have one of these and some companies have both. I can't find a pattern regarding size or focus of the companies, since very similar companies sometimes have different structures. It gets stranger when you figure out what they do: at some companies the CIO doesn't have much to do with actual technology but at other companies the CTO even reports to the CIO! So my questions: what are the 'traditional' roles for the chief information officer and the chief technology officer? And to who do they report, the COO or directly to the president/CEO?"
The role of a C*O (Score:1)
CEO: Find ways to get lots of money for the company. Hire and fire people on a whim. Drink, drink, drink. Spend all of that money in stupid ways.
President: (yes, I know not a C, but more important than everyone else) Hire and fire people with good reasons. Keep the CEO from drinking. Spend that money on smart things.
The rest of the C*O's: Look pretty. Make sweeping proclomations based on the latest and greatest fad. Spend lots of money on stupid things. Attempt to get people hired and fired based on their whims. Drink with the CEO.
I discovered that my company tries to hire high profile people as C*O's, pay them a shitload of money, then hope that investors will throw more money at us because we have such 'important' people working for us.
Having a product, or a plan just isn't imporant to them, and I estimate one more year before we close up shop and the investors start pulling munitions out of their gun cabinets.
Re:Picky, but... (Score:1)
the difference (Score:1)
A CTO's function is to provide technical vision and direction to the organization. Fundamentally this needs to be a position only one down from the CEO (who is the final arbiter/decision maker). A CIO's function is to make sure that the internal/external information technology infrastructure works, and will scale as the needs of the company scales. This person should report to the COO if there is one, or president if there is one. The CTO should NEVER report to the CIO, the CIO may report to the CTO, but that would be a distraction. A CIO is by nature/need quite conservative with regards to technology, and quite skeptical. A CTO needs to be somewhat out there in technology, specifically looking at things that might or might not work. Their job is to figure out what has the highest probability of being useful for the company to pursue.
Of course, with the political landscape of senior management in a constant state of flux, jokeying for position, none of the management organization may be fixed in stone. Many very poor management chains have existed, and they tend to be implemented not on need, but on political reality.
Re:Chief Hacking Officer? (Score:1)
Re:Well... (Score:1)
Old McDonald had a server... (Score:1)
(Couldn't resist!)
Speaking of sucking... (Score:1)
The spelling... (Score:1)
More seriously, they're just titles and the exact meaning varies depending on the company. Just as the title "developer" varies.
CIO v/s CTO (Score:1)
Re:Serious Answer (Score:1)
CIO has always just been the lead for the IT group.
Re:Serious Answer (Score:1)
e.g. = exempli grata (for example)
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Re:Serious Answer (Score:1)
It's the company (Score:1)
CTOs and CIOs (Score:1)
CIOs tend to be the business end and are in charge of the organization's overall IT strategy in terms of SLAs (service level agreements) and execution of vision.
CTOs are the chief architects of the organization's technical side and ultimately make the choices about what infrastructure the organization will use to achieve the vision set forth by the CIO.
I'm at the management level and I'm tasked with the organization of resources to achieve the vision the CIO is steering and the CTO architect more or less.
Thanks my take.
COO? (Score:1)
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Re:CIO & CTO - How it's supposed to work. (Score:1)
CIO strategic, CTO hands-on (Score:1)
CTO seems like a smart position to have; it lets the CIO focus on business and management and less on whether you want Solaris or Linux. The only skepeticism I have is if its not just a little bit of excessive delegation, but I have yet to meet a CIO with any decent understanding of technology.
About 20 scars. (Score:1)
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Re:You only describe a bad CIO (Score:1)
Dissenter
Re:Cynics view (Score:1)
This is the guy who works with all the other C?Os so that the CEO dosn't have to spend all his day in meetings with all the C?Os
CBO... Centeral BS Officer... In charg of lying to the employees.
CMO Mimic This is the guy who repeates what the CEO said right after he said it to the people he did not say it to but were simply in the room at the time and did hear it...
CBO This is the guy in charg of the bubble gum.. most busnesses don't have one of thies.. His job is to make the secretarys happy.. bring them coffie and bubble gum...
As you'll note the stereotypical secretary chewing bubblegum dosn't seem to exist unles you have a CBO...
CFO (Score:1)
[This should be dubblely true of "DotComs" who tend to spend thousands on BS when they havn't made a dime]
[Many allready gave sereous answers so I'm giving the silly ones]
CTO reports to God CIO reports to Satan
The CFO reports to RMS..
(I'm just wondering how many CFOs and CPAs prefer free software just for a TCO issue?)
Re:CIO & CTO - How it's supposed to work. (Score:1)
CIO - Business person with technology knowledge
CTO - Technology person with business knowledge
CTO reports to CIO.
Just my three cents.
Well, were I work... (Score:1)
CIO - Lord of the network operations people.
A couple things (Score:1)
2. A few thousand shares of stock (which are now worth much less)
3. A toupee
a definition, or two (Score:1)
As for companies that have both, the CTO is in charge of the databases, but the CIO is in charge of the information in the databases.
Strange, yes, but management is designed for massively parallel, redudant, overpaid, underutilized positions the higher up you go.
Re:I am Bob COO Joiner... (Score:1)
Baz "It's a Hot Cut" Quux
(PS - I added the extra syllable back to "hinderance" - your rube dialect seems to be slipping, Mr. Joiner...)
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CIO's.... (Score:1)
A few months ago it was decided that campus wide DHCP would be a good thing, so he told the sysadmins to do it. However he also forbade them from telling anyone else about the plan (ie the two dozen other admins on campus that don't report to the CIO) ya see most every department at my university has it's own small IT dept, mainly because when we started to computerize many many moons ago the campus wide IT dept was unwilling/unable to provide any type of support for all these new PC's popping up. Anyway our CIO didn't allow his people to communicate with the other admins around campus about what was going on so they didn't know about the 6 other DHCP servers running around campus. Nor did they realize that most of the online databases the library subsribes to authenticate based on IP, and that for some of those the license only applies to the computers physically in the library so when our public workstations started getting random IP's databases broke. Same thing with our networked circulation database, each of the book processors account it linked to the machines IP address, you can only use your account from your workstation. So naturally that broke in a big damn hurry. This was the first big project campus wide IT had tackled since the uni hired a CIO. The point of us creating the CIO position was to improve communications in the campus IT communities and improve central control, so far it's backfired. Communications suck worse than ever because of his policies, and the smaller IT depts around campus are nearly in revolt. We solved our IP auth problems by IP masqing all our workstations through one of our linux servers and giving our vendors it's IP for auth purposes, we do our own DNS and mail along with moving all the library's online resources to our own webserver (also a linux box) pretty much all we use campus IT for is our WAN link to the outside world. Our CIO sucks. We don't have a CTO, but if we did I'm sure he'd suck too.
The difference is in Software and Non Software (Score:1)
Re:Well... (Score:1)
(and yes, I too have seen too much "Good Morning Vietnam"
BTW: What's a COO? Chief Operations Officer? What does a COO do?
Re:Well... (Score:1)
But. . . these are just silly corporate titles and their relevance all boils down to how willing either are to listen to the people who do the actual work.
Re:CIO & CTO - How it's supposed to work. (Score:1)
You only describe a bad CIO (Score:1)
It has been my experience that CIOs serve as a valuable interpreter between techies and non-techies. Furthermore, they have the clout and respect to be the champion that technical people need on the business side of the organization.
I'm sorry you've had such a bad time with CIOs, but your brush is too broad.
Re:You know, you're free... (Score:1)
Re:Wrong again, Flanders! (Score:1)
I can pronunce any combination of letters. Besides, a "word" is just a group of letters. If it's not an English word, then maybe it's a Uhzbeckistanian word. Do you know all the world's words?
Take "angjf." It is pronounced like "AYNG-jif."
Take "hnrgb." It is pronounced like "HNERG-uh."
I rest my case.
P.S. to moderators: all though this comment doesn't address the original story, it is germane because it addresses an earlier post. thank you.
Wrong again, Flanders! (Score:1)
I'm affaid that Merriam-Webster would disagree with you on this point.
Main Entry: acronym
Pronunciation: 'a-kr&-"nim
Function: noun
Etymology: acr- + -onym
Date: 1943
: a word (as NATO, radar, or snafu) formed from the initial letter or letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a compound term
Ouch! (Score:1)
And to who do they report, the COO or directly to the president/CEO?"
The word in question should have been spelled "whom."
Thank you.
The Deputy Grammar Nazi
Quite right (Score:1)
Good question, though! I'm glad to see this kind of a question asked on Slashdot.
ICT has two faces (Score:1)
CIO: Chief Information Officer knows the (business) needs of the company. ICT is considered to be a service with company performance as goal. The CIO does not communicate with technical guys very often. The CIO is focusses on _business_ needs - company profit in performance and costs supported with an ICT solution to the problem.
CTO: Chief Technology Officer knows about all projects within the company at technical level. He does not define the requested service, although he communicates feasibility, performance, technical problems with the CIO. The CTO also does study for new technologies, to be used in new projects. The CTO is focussed at the technical face of ICT
So in this company, the CIO and CTO actually do have different task
CIO and CTO (Score:1)
Re:Serious Answer (Score:1)
Not if he was speaking specifically about Novell.
As in "my CIO makes me use outdated shitty software, that is, Novell."
Re:Basically! (Score:1)
fuck
basically
fuck
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Re:Serious Answer (Score:1)
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CIO (Score:1)
Picky, but... (Score:1)
Like Tetris? Like drugs? Ever try combining them? [pineight.com]
CIO vs. CTO (Score:1)
CIO: essentially just the head accountant for the cost-center that is the IT department.
CTO: that person who is in charge of all things "Internet" based, e-commerce mainly.
Oversimplified? Yep. What I truly hate, is when the CIO/CTO reports to the CFO. What a waste. Nothing like having your budgets cut because an accountant doesn't understand the slightest bit about your job.
I'll throw in my lot (Score:1)
Answer. (Score:1)
Strategy versus Execution (Score:1)
As a practical matter I see companies like CDW, Comdisco and UAL charging their CIO's with strategic directions for technology and information. The CTO's appear to be participating in that vision, but primarily executing on it.
The fact is, so many businesses are building systems and applications that already exist there is a real need for someone far enough away from the 'programming' side of things
I'm not saying a CTO can't or won't do these things... but I can't tell you how many times I've heard those folks say, "I could build that, why buy it" where that decision is bad business.
http://www.hiredinsight.com
Computerworld says: (Score:1)
there's also interesting stuff at http://www.cio.com/ [cio.com]
rr
Re:CTO worthless (Score:1)
Eric Livingston
Chief Technology Officer
Commerce One Global Services
www.commerceone.com
Re:Chello (Score:1)
I wonder if Linux is still a banned OS, even the unix admins had to use a locked down version of NT as the *cough* IT department *cough* even went as far as to try and impliment secure card readers for the LAN to remove Linux.
Engineering vs. internal systems (Score:2)
If you see a CTO who is underneath the CIO in the corporate heirarchy, *RUN*. This means that the company has not adequately thought out the roles for its managers and is thus probably run by a process of backstabbing and who-you-know rather than via ability and execution. Those are *NOT* happy places to work.
-E
There's no standard (Score:2)
Well... (Score:2)
Sorry.
It interferes with his pron surfing... (Score:2)
Those parasites are there to keep yutzes like you employed, though I wonder why...
Re:There's no standard (Score:2)
The next month, one of those guys might be gone, and his position not get filled right away, or a restructuring moves one of them to a position that's more or less than just technology.
FedEx had both positions, then they reorganized and split the IT out into a seperate company (FedEx Services, you won't see them on the web page), and the old CTO became CIO. He's actually CIO in both FedEx Corporation and FedEx Services, but he's basically doing the exact same thing he did as CTO at what is now FedEx Express, only for 5,000 people instead of 3,000. There is no CTO at either company now.
If one of Rob's helpers needs a serious promotion, they'll probably recreate the CTO position and give him a new nameplate for his office.
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Human-Cyborg Relations (Score:2)
My company has 3 CPOs! But I can't figure out how they are all able to fit into that one gold-coloured suit.
Acronym Finder (Score:2)
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Well depends on size.... (Score:2)
However, the company I work for, I suppose some would call it a dotcom startup, it seems that everyone, including the CTO and VPs, including myself, working only as a graphic designer, reports directly to the CEO(who is also President).
So in a situation with a small company, I can understand this, and it may even be a strength, as in such a situation, the CEO can get his goals directly to the people who will help create them, instead of filtered down through the ranks as will happen in most larger companies.
-Julius X
Re:Serious Answer - Good generalization ... (Score:2)
Damn that was too simple, yet it was right on the money and perfect. Saves on the virtual trees too. ;-P
-- Bryan "TheBS" Smith
Scalable Organization Structures (Score:2)
But clearly there has to be some decision making process regarding technology standards associated with shared service like network operations and centralized data needed by accounting etc.
I think the answer is to make technology operations a service organization with a scope restricted to only systems shared amoung business units. After all, in a business organization the purpose of technology is to serve the business.
I think that the key principles are:
1. Push as much decision making down into the organization as possible.
2. Minimize the number of rules.
3. Build cross functional organizational elements that are responsible for the success of a business operation.
A centralized CTO is fine, so long as he can't say "You must buy only Comcrap Presarios which we then preload our special locked down image of OS/2 that everyone has to use".
Re:Scalable Organization Structures (Score:2)
The fuckup is to put in place a management structure that is inflexible. Cases where you have a centralized organization managing all desktop systems results in slow responce times to changing business needs, service aimed at the lowest common denominator and high costs because of the insistence on use of certain types of systems because that is all they know or are willing to learn, and users who are frustrated becasue they are not allowed to make use of thier abilities and creativity. I've seen it all -
1. Organizations geared to servicing the accountant, manager and secretary. Fuck the users who actually know something and could be 10x more productive with a non-standard system.
2. Organizations that require 3 years and $5 million to roll out a new application that I could do on Linux/PHP/Mysql in 4 days.
3. 90% failure rate in 're-engineering' projects that have costed tens of millions of dollars.
4. Complete cover-my-ass always buy Microsoft even if it is obvious that there are far better answers.
5. Complete lack of communications with end users - service techs that are under orders not to talk to end users while doing service calls.
6. Outsource everything to third parties who are running mega-service centers aimed at processing customer help requests in 30 sec or less and who cares if the customer is really helped.
This kind of mentality results in users who are not ALLOWED to use any creativity of initiative in using their computers to solve business problems. Companies who shut of their employees in this manner quickly find that their best employees go to work elsewhere.
Chief Hacking Officer? (Score:2)
Info co or tech co? (was Re:Serious Answer) (Score:2)
Technology companies, in the wider economy, are relatively rare. They are the companies whose primary business is innovation, which add value through creating new kinds of things. Even the big, obvious 'technology companies' aren't really technology companies considered as a whole (although divisions within them may be): Sun, IBM, HP, for example, though they do develop new technology, fundamentally add value through their knowledge of their customer base and its needs; innovation supports this, it doesn't lead it. So here again I would expect the information function to be senior to the technology function.
It's in less established companies, or smaller specialist companies which concentrate on innovation, that I would expect the technology function to be genuinely senior to the information function.
Re:CTO worthless (Score:2)
I'm Technical Director (which is CTO in UK-Speak) because I
Technology isn't just for Information (Score:2)
It doesn't take technology to decide who sees what information (one of the most important decisions).
Or think of a biotech company: There's alot of technology on the bio-side.
Re:Serious Answer (Score:2)
A CTO is a real engineer who knows what he's doing. He's the last word on technology in the company. Typically he's the head of the division responsible for Product Development.
A CIO is someone with a CCNA (at best) whose responsibility it is to make sure that his customers (i.e. the rest of the people working for the company) remain productive as a result of his products (i.e. networks, email, software, phones, hardware) BUT thinks it is his job to make sure that people who know better than he does are not permitted to use software, hardware, phones, email or networks not administered and approved by him or his little empire. In this context "administered" means that his team grows every time you have a problem, because he can get more budget and resources, and "approved" means "what he understands without having to learn anything new". This requirement for "approval" has been traced to the sole cause for survival of Novell in the last five years.
To these ends he will resort to creative interpretation of license agreements, "accidental" disabling of accounts, and I have even heard whispers of intentional virus plants... Threatening company-wide emails in upper-case are not unknown when breaches of the approval or administration process are suspected. Typically inhabits an office with frosted-glass windows so that nobody can see that he reads the newspaper (tabloid: takes five hours)and surfs the net for porn all day. The CEO likes it that nobody can see the CIO.
In short, a CIO is a BOFH without the IQ.
It's Obvious... (Score:2)
A CTO clearly has a higher ASCII value.
This is redundant but might add a bit more (Score:2)
CIO in charge of IT; CTO is head developer (Score:2)
The CTO is the lead developer--essentially the person whom all other developers ultimately report to. He is responsible for conducting product demos, interacts heavily with leaders of other businesses who are also customers, and does solve bugs himself.
Re:CIO & CTO - How it's supposed to work. (Score:2)
A big company with both old and new economy components may have both a CIO and a CTO.
A company with only a CIO is probably not a technology company per se (i.e. they do not directly sell technology products or services to customers, but technology is only incidental to their business).
At companies where the business _is_ the technology, the CTO generally has the prominent role. At most other businesses, the CTO, if one is present, is a technology person with business experience who does is basically the uber architect for tech projects within the company and fights with/argues with/bitchifies him or herself to the CIO.
Well.. (Score:2)
A CIO is generally in charge of information systems (IS) and IT deployment within an enterprise, perhaps also with the groups in charge of integrating or connecting that to other systems.
In reality, I have met very smart and very stupid CTOs. But while I haven't interacted with very many CIOs, those I've had any experience at all with have universally been PHBs in the worst possible way.
Mind you, my experience is mostly in the software industry, with companies in the range of 20 to 500 people (i.e. small and mid-small sized companies). Also, you have to realize that basically a company can create roles as they want and asign people to those roles. If the CTO is too smart and the CEO can't deal with him because he understands nothing about what's going on, he might hire a CIO who's a complete moron and make the CTO report to him. Then if the CTO isn't a complete loser he'll quit and say fuck this shit.
In summary: (Score:2)
Anyhow, to answer your question:
CIO almost always means a very senior IT person reporting direct to the CEO.
CTO sometimes means this as well (but see below).
If both exist it usually reflects the 2 faces of an I.T. team. One is to maintain the exisiting technology (CIO) and one is to look at the business process and hence develop new technology(CTO)
Only in very big companies is IT so big you need 2 people reporting to the CEO; more common is a CIO and then 2 VPs or Directors, one for each side.
Confusingly, CTO can also refer to a completely different role, which is the problem AC has in his research.
In a technology company, someone has to have a long-term vision of where the technology is going. If this is considered a full-time post for someone it is sometimes called CTO
Example: Bill Gates has stopped being CEO and become a CTO role. Although they call him an "architect" which is another popular title for this.
This type of CTO thinks about new directions for the technology to take. He needs to work very closely with R&D,MSS,and probably with customers. She needs to have a good understanding of the CEO's vision of the direction the company should go in.
CIO and CTO are quite different. (Score:2)
The CTO is in charge of R&D.
If you do not produce a harware product, software product, or software service you generally don't have a CTO.
Cynics view (Score:2)
Here's my rule: Never trust a company with more than four C*O positions. C*Os are managers of managers, and more than four of 'em means too many middle-managers running around.
CIO and CTO (Score:2)
In non-tech Fortune 500 company, they may have a CIO who handles information management within the company as well as the technical services. Some that have very complex technical infrastructures may have both. Under this scenario, the CTO would report to the CIO. Absent a CTO, you would normally have a Director of Technology.
In a small software company, chances are you have a CTO and no CIO. The CTO in this environment is more in charge of setting the strategic technical direction of the company and will come from a software architecture background. In a larger software company, the CTO may have a CIO who reports to them or a Director of Information Services. This CIO is just managing the company's internal systems and data, which are generally much smaller than a large non-tech company.
CIO vs. CTO (Score:2)
I think the distinction between these two officers is clearest in software development companies:
CIO - head systems administrator
CTO - head software architect
Basically, the CIO is a "required" officer these days as most systems run computers internally that they have to maintain/upgrade/etc (email, web servers, databases, phones, etc). The CTO is usually a position reserved for tech companies who need an officer to frame the long-term technical vision of the product and be well-versed in architectural issues (networking, software development, or anything else).
A Matter of Business History (Score:2)
The CTO title is a newcomer that's been mostly fueled by the increased significance of the internet, and is most commonly seen in dot-coms. It reflects the immaturity of the internet technology and the unfortunate fact that there are now Top Computer Guys who spend more time trying to piece together gadgets than they spend meeting business needs. The high mortality of dot-coms reflects the aimlessness embodied in the new title of CTO.
I am a CTO, not an animal.
Served as Both (Score:2)
CIO:
The CIO position has existed for several years and typically refers to IT-related and company technology infrastruture issues. Networks (including connectivity (T-1s etc.)), computer workstations, servers, software, telephone systems, building security, disaster recovery, and IT personnel typically fall under the jurisdiction of the CIO. In a nutshell, if it is modern/information age technology, and you can touch it, it is a CIO responsibility. Until recently, the CIO typically reported to the CFO (Chief Financial Officer -- the man with the money) or the COO (Chief Operating Officer -- Mr. HR) and not to the CEO. Since technology is now a strategic vector in a company, the CIO is starting to report to the CEO directly. It is a big deal among company executives to report directly to the CEO -- don't ask me why; pecking order I guess.
CTO:
I am convinced that the CTO position is fallout from the Internet explosion. A bit of history
A MBA with a penchant for technology and infrastruture (hopefully) would typically become a CIO. A Masters of Science in Computer Science or a true hacker with good development skills and vision would become a CTO.
Re:CTO worthless (Score:2)
I don't think of myself as a useless management appendage. Too bad yours might be...
Eric Livingston
Chief Technology Officer
Commerce One Global Services
www.commerceone.com
Difference? (Score:2)
It depends on the company (Score:2)
For companies which sell software (and possibly software services) then CTO and CIO become peer roles. The CTO drives the technology direction of the company and the CIO performs a similar role to the above. In this case the CTO is very much marketing facing role.
Don't see any situation in which it would make sense for a CIO to report to the CTO.
Standard Rollup for CTO/CIO (Score:2)
Preface: I've been selling technology to corporations for years
Heres how it works:
CIO: Reponsible for Information Systems operateions. Rolls up to Chief Financial Office or Controller in well run companies. Rolls up to CEO in other cases with wildly different results.
CTO: Provides technology vision for company and generally is more of an advisor to the CEO in most cases. In other cases the CTO is the "head engineer" in charge of anything that is to technical for the other executives to manage.
The most powerful executive where IT is concerned is usually the Cheif Financial Office as the CFO's accounting system and databases are usually the prime raison d'etre for Information Technology.
CTO worthless (Score:2)
Chello (Score:3)
They have a CTO that hasn't got a clue about technology and everybody that is not a techie has a either director or manager in their job title. Managers are the lowest title, project managers are called project directors who report to the director of projects who in turn reports to the senior executive of projects. Despite all of the nice titles no one has any decision making skills or for the most part any budget.
We even have a girl who's last job was working in a bar, she just looks after the operations roster and has the title of liason manager!
It is without any doubt the worst company I've ever worked for but fortunatly, they pay well even though I do nothing except get training.
To be honest and to answer your question, I've learnt a lot here about management structure, it doesn't matter what title someone has as long as they have the ability to perform.
Okay, this is what we mean by "PHB" (Score:3)
Oh wait, right. He's a PHB.
For one thing, this person asks "to whom do they report?" ALL officers report to the Chief Executive Officer (that's why he's a CHIEF EXECUTIVE). The CEO usually reports to the BOARD OF DIRECTORS, if there is one.
Re:Serious Answer - That's IT specific! (Score:3)
90% of you'all are failing to remember that 90% of companies with a CTO are NOT IT-focused. One such type of company I can think of are engineering companies? And I'm sure there are other examples, like an accounting software firm (where the CTO would be familiar with tax codes, but the CIO would not need to be).
E.g., at my company, a fabless semiconductor (i.e. "computer chip") design firm, our CTO was the originator and developer of our patented asynchronous logic technology. This has 0% to do with IT (although end-user IT products will eventually benefit from it, but not directly inside our company). Although we are a small company without a CIO at this point, we will add one / promote one (hopefully me ;-) when we grow past 200 employees or so with more than our current two offices.
Keeping with the traditional engineering example, understand that traditional engineering CTOs are usually formally educated (again, traditional engineering). The concepts and details of their technology requires this eduction, a foundation on differential equations, understanding of magnetic fields, signals, DSP, etc... to come up with new concepts and designs. Other engineering disciplines have theirs, as well as other, non-engineering fields.
I'm sure it differs at different firms or different types of firms. Still, I would see CTO and CIO as at the same level on the org chart. I don't see how either has anything to do with the other -- unless your firm is strictly an IT-focused firm (non-traditional software engineering / products).
-- Bryan "TheBS" Smith
Re:Serious Answer (Score:3)
Dissenter
The difference between the CIO & CTO is simple (Score:3)
A CTO is concerned with the various technologies used by a company to do business, improve business practices, and cope with the changing world outside the company.
Many seem to think that the only technology a company relys on is Information Technology. This is wrong. Information technology is a vital key to success in business, but it is not the only technology to be concerned with when running a company.
Imagine your run a large television network. There are vast amounts of data that flow to keep the network on the air. The IT challenges are formidable. Outside of IT there are many other concerns with the technologies needed to roduce the shows, transmit them over satellites, and get them to people's home. Not to mention working with consumer products to develop other outlets for the audio and video media that the network produces.
Imagine you are running a theme park. Again, IT technology is vital, but so is the ability to build rides, develop new technologies for guests, and react to the competing theme parks.
As you can see, the roles of CIO and CTO are seperate and distinct. I'll conceed in a pure play IT company, there isn't a lot of ground for the CTO to cover, but most companies aren't pure play IT companies.
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Re:CIO vs. CTO (Score:3)
The CTO is often the tag given to the inventor/ PhD in a venture. The CTO function often interacts significantly with customers -- just as the CEO might be the super-sales person in a startup, the CTO is the super-sales engineer.
Of course, if a company does not recognize the need for technology drive behind the product, or the technology in the product is "thin" (like many recent internet plays), then the CTO role is trivial.
In a 'typical' startup the founding folks, ranked by importance (i.e. fraction of shares) may go like this:
- President (may also be head of sales or marketing before those are distinguished.)
- VP Finance (or CFO - may not be necessary until the company has plans to go public.)
- VP Product Development (e.g. Engineering)
- VP Operations (also may be head of IT, Tech. support, etc.)
- CTO
John Mark Agosta
Edify Corp.
Fortune 500 vs. Startup (Score:3)
In the technology startup, you usually have a CTO before you have a CIO. CTOs are very frequently technical founders who either decided (or had it decided for them) to not be CEO or some other traditional management role. Also, acquisitions are great spawners of CTOs. When it's not merely a parking place, the CTO at a technology startup might (a) have the customer-focused technology strategy role that a number of people have explained, (b) may in fact be sitting at the top of the tree of all developers, or (c) may be something like an uber-Chief Architect, possibly with a little team of architects, in parallel to the larger development team.
When CIOs are introduced at startups, it's generally part of the tectonic shift away from being a startup. This is generally (as many people have explained) a PHB who has an inwardly-focused technology role. Whether or not this person sits at the top of a techology _product_ groups (including, possibly, the CTO) depends on the organization, although it has always struck me as a Bad Idea and is not very common in technology companies. Conflict between CTOs and CIOs in fast-growing tech companies are not unusual (e.g. LinuxCare) and stem from the fact that any good technology company will tend to have a bunch of very smart tech folks long before they start building out serious internal IT, and these folks, while tempermentally unsuited to operational roles, will make their annoyingly correct opinions known to the IT folks to the point where open warfare can break out.
If a company is not, fundamentally, a technology company, things are quite different. As one poster pointed out, the tension is usually between pockets of IT expertise in outlying groups vs. Central Services. CIOs at large, non-technical companies generally do (try) to sit on pretty much everything technical, and for various reasons (economies of scale, power trips, whatever) try to get things done in a consistent way as dictated by their organization. In an organization like this, a CTO generally would report to the CIO, and would have a role something like an uber-Chief Architect. This would generally _not_ be an outward-facing role, although this person might participate in IT-related standards bodies, write papers, etc. out of personal interest.
Perhaps there is no traditional role (Score:3)
Well, I'm a CTO... (Score:3)
We also have a CIO, who's in charge of our internal IT. It is a non-customer facing role, and is in charge of keeping us operating with the right automation (email servers, file servers, etc).
So, as another poster put it, CTO=customer facing/solution oriented stuff, while CIO=Internal automation/infrastructure stuff.
Eric Livingston
Chief Technology Officer
Commerce One Global Services
www.commerceone.com
Re:Perhaps there is no traditional role (Score:3)
Exactly. There is virtually no consistency between companies on this score. Also, there has been a great deal of title inflation over the last half year or so, as companies which can no longer entice people with stock options or sheer dot-com glitz use titles to attract or hold good people. I've seen companies with a CIO, a CTO, a VP of Technology, a Chief Architect, several Senior Software Engineers -- and nothing below that. We actually joke about this where I work; I'm the Lord High Pope and Emperor of Technology, for example. :)
If things were more reasonable, I'd see the CIO role being more about MIS and infrastructure, and the CTO role being product- or service-focused. The CIO picks payroll systems and buys file servers, while the CTO does the vision thing with product roadmaps and architecture, including tech selection, partnerships, and so forth.
Re:It interferes with his pron surfing... (Score:3)
www.adbusters.org (Score:3)
Serious Answer (Score:4)
IMHO, A CTO is responsible for guiding the company w.r.t the technical products that it develops (thinking here of people like Marcus Ranum of NFR and Bruce Schneier of Counterpane). They may also be a figurehead for the user community.
A CIO, on the other hand, is responsible for all IT systems used internally and how they interact with the business. Head of Internal Systems if you like. Also responsible for things like setting Information Security policy, Acceptable Use Policy, the phone system, and, in the UK, probably the person the spooks would get in touch with if they wanted a private key under the terms of the RIP bill.
Quite different roles, y'see. CTO is primarily customer-facing, CIO is primarily internally-facing. If you don't want both, just have a Technical Director who's "in charge of anything technical". :)
CIO & CTO - How it's supposed to work. (Score:5)
CTO - Understands current technology alternatives and capabilities, including strengths/weaknesses and tradeoffs of various choices in the hierarchy of applications, databases, transactional systems, operating systems, networking, platforms... other hardware. Takes direction on business needs from the CIO (or CEO/President, if there isn't a CIO), and plans for technology evolution of the company systems. The CTO is a _technology_ person having some familiarity with the company business model.
It's a division of responsibilities proceeding from CIO overloads in the early '90s. (CIOs came first, recently supplemented by CTO positions.)
Traditional role of a CIO (Score:5)
A CIO, who ideally reports to the CEO, is responsible for all information technology that runs the company, all of the technology infrastructure. That means networks, servers, databases, third-party applications, programming staff, project managers, specialized consultants, etc.
A CIO spends much of her time managing a portfolio of projects, each one dedicated to a particular goal, whether it's upgrading the corporate desktops, installing new network equipment, or developing (in conjunction with consultants) a sexy new e-commerce application.
Typically, a CIO has 2 key direct reports: a Vice President of Operations, and a Vice President of Applications. The former maintains the network, the hardware, the data center, and other "static" portions of the CIO's domains, often reporting key metrics such as uptime, throughput, cycles used, etc. The latter oversees the design, development, deployment, and support of all applications throughout the enterprise. The latter emphasizes metrics for estimated time to completion, FTEs, etc.
For the last 10 to 15 years, CIOs have spent a lot of time fighting their way into the executive boardroom and getting the ear of the CEO. They have had to justify why they should report to a CEO rather than the CFO, as happens in some places, and why they can help the business strategically rather than provide mere operational support. Not an easy task, but CIOs appear to be getting their message out. And the longevity of the average CIO appears to be lengthening!
chief acronym officer (Score:5)