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German Government donates 250,000 DM to GNU Privacy Guard

Posted by Nik on Mon Nov 15, 1999 09:42 AM
from the 6BD9-050F-D8FC-941B-4341 dept.
One of the many ACs wrote in with the news that the German government is donating 250,000 marks (that's about 82,500, or $132,000) to the GNU Privacy Guard project. The article is in German, but the ever reliable Babelfish comes to the rescue.
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  • Insightful! by hobbit (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @07:39AM
  • Re:Fscking socialists by artg (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @05:52AM
  • Re:There is irony to be found in privacy policies by the eric conspiracy (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @05:54AM
  • dork. by um... Lucas (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @07:41AM
  • Re:If only by Borealis (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @07:41AM
  • Re:Wait a moment, I am translating right now by dej05093 (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @07:49AM
  • Re:Fscking socialists by coreybrenner (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @08:33AM
  • Re:Insightful! by uradu (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @08:46AM
  • Re:Taxes are voluntary. by Arandir (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @02:28PM
  • Re:Insightful! by uradu (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @08:50AM
  • Re:Insightful! by uradu (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @08:51AM
  • Re:obConspiracy Theory by Detritus (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @03:05PM
  • More money is wasted on proprietary software by David Jao (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @04:46PM
  • Re:More money is wasted on proprietary software by Arandir (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @04:50PM
  • The greater abuse should draw more concern... by David Jao (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @04:54PM
  • Re:The greater abuse should draw more concern... by Arandir (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @05:14PM
  • Re:There is irony to be found in privacy policies by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @05:54AM
  • Re:obConspiracy Theory by smoe (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @05:57AM
  • Re:Wow.... by Florian H. (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @05:57AM
  • Re:Wow.... (Score:4)

    by Markee (72201) on Monday November 15 1999, @06:04AM (#1531890)
    I would never have expected to say that this is coming from the German government of all places (history aside and all, the modern German government seems to often have it's hands full controlling it's Neo-Nazi and extremist group problem,

    Hey, hey, I think this is overstressed in your media. Neo-nazi and extermist problems take up much more space in news coverage about Germany than it actually should. For one part, it's because foreign countries are extra sensitive for anything right-wing that comes from Germany (for good, historical, reasons). Besides, this extremist thing is one of the few things about German that gives the reader a kind of a thrill which, sadly, often is a reason for news to be reported.
    If you had said that the German government has more important things to care about than Open Source projects because the unemployment is so unacceptably high and gigantic amounts of money go the the absolutely wrong places, I would have agreed.

    If you don't believe me, please remember the Neo-Nazi and extremist problems the U.S. have (Oklahoma bombing, KKK, militia groups, Jewish kindergarten shooting...). I'm not saying Neo-Nazis are no problem in Germany, but I don't think they are a bigger problem than in many other countries -- people just watch closer when it comes to Germany.

  • US export controls by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @09:03AM
  • Re:If only (Score:3)

    by DanMcS (68838) on Monday November 15 1999, @06:07AM (#1531892)
    Sometimes I wish taxpayers had the right to tell the government to stop wasting their money.
    The irony of this statement floored me, and I hope you were being sarcastic. Ideally, the government _is_ the taxpayers, and we have every right to do so. The problem is that most people in the US see the political continuum as running between Republican and Democrat. Well, there is only a difference of degrees between the two. Both have their pet projects. Since voters think they have to decide between the two, the only option is which buzzword-project-of-the-month your money will be wasted on next. _Not_ wasting the money is simply out of the question, to the politicians. It's too ludicrous for words.
  • Re:There is irony to be found in privacy policies by uradu (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @06:00PM
  • Re:There is irony to be found in privacy policies by uradu (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @10:44AM
  • Re:There is irony to be found in privacy policies by Detritus (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @10:46AM
  • Re:There is irony to be found in privacy policies by mahone (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @08:42PM
  • Re:There is irony to be found in privacy policies by twinpot (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @09:56PM
  • quantium computing by const (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @11:02PM
  • Re:There is irony to be found in privacy policies by the eric conspiracy (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @11:32AM
  • just two things by klausr (Score:1) Tuesday November 16 1999, @12:10AM
  • Government is a *huge* consumer of software by Per Abrahamsen (Score:2) Tuesday November 16 1999, @02:38AM
  • Re:Taxes are voluntary. by AxelBoldt (Score:1) Tuesday November 16 1999, @09:06AM
  • Re:There is irony to be found in privacy policies by the eric conspiracy (Score:2) Tuesday November 16 1999, @10:43AM
  • Re:Wow.... by Eremit (Score:1) Tuesday November 16 1999, @01:42PM
  • Wow.... by Fnkmaster (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @04:56AM
  • Ranking by tweek (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @04:57AM
  • Wait a moment, I am translating right now by Hanno (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @04:52AM
  • Amazingly cool by proberts (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @04:57AM
  • Re:Babelfish is not sufficient by Jebediah7 (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @04:53AM
  • by Hanno (11981) on Monday November 15 1999, @05:03AM (#1531918) Homepage
    Here's my attempt at a translation. Sorry, English is not my first language.



    German government fosters open source

    The open source project "GNU privacy guard" (GPG) led by the German developer Werner Koch shall receive a financial aid of 250,000 DM by the German Ministry for Enonomy and Science (BMWi) this year. More funds and similar actions shall follow next year. The German government wants to tap the potential of open source development within the area of security related software and hopes to set a signal effect by supporting open source.

    The second focus shall be supporting open source projects within security related software projects that the BMWi hope to help increase transparency and reliability of future security products. The core question, according to Ulrich Sandl of the BMWi, is how to increase the transparency of security technology: "It is almost impossible for small to medium businesses today to judge the actual security value of an encryption product."

    An important step shall be the support for GPG. "The concept of GPG might help to create a tool that can be used as public domain software without any restrictions for all members of a society - the state, businesses and private users alike can get free access for no charge," says Hubertus Soquat, referent for IT security at the BMWi.

    The financial aid for GPG shall mainly be used to create comfortable user interfaces for GPG and to port the tool for various operating systems, various mail clients etc.


    Original German article by Stefan Krempl.

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  • Fscking socialists by arthurs_sidekick (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @04:53AM
  • quick translation (Score:4)

    by ruud (7631) on Monday November 15 1999, @04:55AM (#1531921) Homepage
    (disclaimer: i'm dutch, not german)

    Before the end of the year, the open source project GNU privacy guard (GPG), coordinated by the programmer Werner Koch from Dusseldorf, will receive a financial injection of DM 250,000 from the federal department of economy and technology. With this, the federal government wants to unlock the potential of open source for privacy and hopes to make a statement with the gift.
    --

  • Hey! You're infringing on our god given rights! by Greyfox (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @06:07AM
  • There is irony to be found in privacy policies by RNG (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @05:09AM
  • Re:There is irony to be found in privacy policies by RNG (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @06:08AM
  • Re:quick translation by jd (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @05:09AM
  • The Wizards Of OS (Score:4)

    by kris (824) on Monday November 15 1999, @06:15AM (#1531930) Homepage
    This summer there has been the conference Wizards of OS [mikro.org] in Berlin. One day before that conference there has been an expert hearing of the German Minstry of Commerce (BMWi) about Open Source. The meeting has been initiated by Ulrich Sandl [heise.de] (BMWi), who was unable to attend in person due to an accident.

    They managed to get into contact with german developers of the KDE Team, the Apache Team, the Linux Kernel, the Mutt mailer, the GPG and OpenPGP projects and other key Open Source projects. Also attending were CEOs or key people from companies which were actually earning money with Open Source based business models. After that meeting, there has been a fruitful discussion between multiple supporters of the Open Source Scene in Germany and the BMWi.

    The BMWi was particularly interested into ideas on how to create a supporting infrastructure for Open Source development without destroying the current structures and without creating a culture shock or the impression of a governmental takeover of Open Source development. They also learned first time about the dangers of Software Patents and were quite shocked to learn that Software Patents were seen as an obstacle, and not as a good thing by the Open Source devlopment scene.

    The donation to the GPG project is the first in a number of actions in a governmental plan which are the direct or indirect result of this meeting. Exspect further investment and support for Open Source projects from the German Government as well as the donation of ressources and services where needed.
    © Copyright 1999 Kristian Köhntopp
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 15 1999, @06:16AM (#1531931)
    This is GREAT news. It does, however put the German government on a direct collision course with the United States, which seems determined to create a worldwide Police State. Now that the Germans and other European countries are openly and directly exploiting the "loophole" in Wassenaar (sp?) that allows for strong PD crypto, the US Gov't will be furious.

    Expect a lot of backroom "diplomacy" (bribes and various kinds of strongarming) to be used by the United States against Europoean governments to tighten up Wassenaar now.

  • Re:There is irony to be found in privacy policies by Chalst (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @06:18AM
  • speculation by Kythe (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @06:24AM
  • Re:I'm gonna buy some German beer today! by Buggernut (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @11:35AM
  • by kris (824) on Monday November 15 1999, @06:31AM (#1531936) Homepage
    Janet Reno already wrote to the german government. You can find the letter on the Heise/Telepolis website [heise.de]. They have a commentary article [heise.de] as well as the original letter [heise.de]. Telepolis' writer Christiane Schulzki-Haddouti covers the whole Echelon and ENFOPOL [heise.de] (english URL [heise.de]) thingy in a special Telepolis section. If you do not read German, this woman is a single, very good reason to do so.
    © Copyright 1999 Kristian Köhntopp
  • Re:I'm gonna buy some German beer today! by ullmanns (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @06:33AM
  • Re:Translation-OFFTOPIC by Hanno (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @11:47AM
  • Re:speculation by AEnas (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @11:53AM
  • Re:This is VERY significant... by Weezul (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @11:55AM
  • Re:Talking about encryption..... by Weezul (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @12:04PM
  • Am I the only one disturbed by this? by Arandir (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @12:46PM
  • Re:Wow.... by Eremit (Score:1) Tuesday November 16 1999, @01:55PM
  • Re:obConspiracy Theory by Guy Harris (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @01:23PM
  • Conflict in source data. by Chalst (Score:2) Thursday November 18 1999, @05:40AM
  • Re:Conflict in source data. by Chalst (Score:2) Thursday November 18 1999, @09:15AM
  • Re:There is irony to be found in privacy policies by Chalst (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @01:50PM
  • Amount in North American currencies... by Rick Franchuk (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @05:12AM
  • Translation: by Lexel (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @05:15AM
  • by jd (1658) <imipak@ya[ ].com ['hoo' in gap]> on Monday November 15 1999, @05:17AM (#1531952) Homepage Journal
    Not just in terms of GPG support, but in terms of online privacy. If some of the rough translations posted here are correct, then this money is earmarked for GPG, but further funds will go towards other security & encryption software.

    My guess is that, by the end of next year, we could see FreeSWAN, GPG, OpenSSH and OpenSSL all getting similar cash injections.

    This can only help people, and the computer industry in particular, and is likely to deal a severe blow to things like the Wassenar Agreement and the US Government's attempts to restrain encryption technology.

  • Re:There is irony to be found in privacy policies by Chalst (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @05:23AM
  • Another interesting snippet: by Lexel (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @05:29AM
  • Re:Amount in North American currencies... by pb (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @05:30AM
  • obConspiracy Theory by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @05:32AM
  • Re:If only by mOdQuArK! (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @06:39AM
  • Makes sense for countries to support GNU apps... by maroberts (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @05:33AM
  • If only by Borealis (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @05:36AM
  • Re:Fscking socialists by MikeBabcock (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @06:45AM
  • hope for other countries like Austria by daWulf (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @06:55AM
  • Re:Ranking by Ignatius (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @06:59AM
  • by grappler (14976) on Monday November 15 1999, @07:11AM (#1531965) Homepage
    Here in the US our government is trying as hard as it can to keep encryption out of common use and especially strong encryption.

    And in Germany, the government is DONATING MONEY to an open effort working on strong encryption.

    That makes a statement all right. I hope (because I am naieve) that our government will take note.

    --
    grappler
  • Talking about encryption..... by rew (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @07:29AM
  • annoying moderation behaviors by LocalYokel (Score:1) Monday November 15 1999, @05:47AM
  • Re:Fscking socialists by bluGill (Score:2) Monday November 15 1999, @05:48AM
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