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Search Results Based on Your Social Network

Posted by ScuttleMonkey on Fri Feb 01, 2008 05:03 PM
from the tangled-in-all-my-social-nets dept.
A new company, Delver, is offering a new take on web searching that plans to make your social network a part of the equation. "Liad Agmon, CEO of Delver, says that the site connects information about a user's social network with Web search results, "so you are searching the Web through the prism of your social graph." He explains that a person begins a search at Delver by typing in her name. Delver then crawls social-networking websites for widely available data about the user--such as a public LinkedIn profile--and builds a network of associated institutions and individuals based on that information. When the user enters a search query, results related to, produced by, or tagged by members of her social network are given priority. Lower down are results from people implicitly connected to the user, such as those relating to friends of friends, or people who attended the same college as the user. Finally, there may be some general results from the Web at the bottom."
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  • by TubeSteak (669689) on Friday February 01, @05:08PM (#22266674) Journal
    But my "social graph" doesn't begin to be represented by my name(s).

    I think this will just bias search results towards your friends who have the most free time, not necessarily the most informed or informative. I'm sure we all have that friend who thinks David Icke is right about the reptilians. Do you want his tagged sites at the top of every search you make related [stuff]?
    • I'm sure we all have that friend who thinks David Icke is right about the reptilians.

      I don't. In fact, I suspect they might all have been usurped by the evil blood-drinking Draco-ians. ... ... ...

      Wait, it's me isn't it?
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        This seems to take the concerns that people have about Google's aggregation of your data to a whole new level. Now they know not only what YOU like, but who your friends are and what THEY like too. It wouldn't be hard to make a map of the socialists, ana
        • by ShieldW0lf (601553) on Friday February 01, @05:25PM (#22266900) Journal
          Who would want to use a search engine that put the answers from the experts at the bottom and the answers they could easily get by asking their mom or their roommate at the top?

          Sounds pretty damned stupid if you ask me.
            • by ShieldW0lf (601553) on Friday February 01, @05:59PM (#22267366) Journal
              For a lot of people, which do you think would be more useful to them: The critics/reviews all hate this movie/item/type/etc, I won't go see/get/try it. My friends/aquantances/coworkers all like/bought/ this movie/item/thing/etc, I should go see/get/try it.

              The advice of critics and strangers, of course. They do not need a search engine to find out what their friends think, they can just talk to them. This strikes me as a way to further estrange people from each other by allowing them to filter out any dissenting views before they should be forced to confront them. Beyond being a dumb idea, it's socially harmful.
  • Terrible idea (Score:5, Insightful)

    by KublaiKhan (522918) on Friday February 01, @05:11PM (#22266706) Homepage Journal
    This sort of searching will result in information from "opposing sides" of controversies or arguments being deprecated, resulting in skewed information being available--because people tend to associate themselves with other people of the same opinion.

    E.G., all my friends are emacs people, so the first results will favor emacs, and any vi-related articles will be deprecated. Other nontrivial examples can be extrapolated.

    This will merely serve to re-enforce any prejudice, bias, or slant that a person may have. Reading competing materials--seeing things that challenge one's own point of view--can only be healthy for one's point of view, rendering it much more cosmopolitan and much less insular than it would otherwise be.

    In short: this new search engine will be wildly popular amongst the type of person who enjoys violent flamewars, and will be useless for any person who wishes to consider both sides of a situation before forming an opinion. ......so it's going to be an enormous success and if I had the cash I'd invest in it. :-/
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      > this new search engine will be wildly popular amongst the type of person who
      > enjoys violent flamewars

      See, I think it would be wildly popular with people who avoid flamewars in favor of echo chambers.
    • Just imagine the search results if your "social graph" is Digg or MySpace...
    • . Reading competing materials--seeing things that challenge one's own point of view--can only be healthy for one's point of view
      That's an over-general statement just waiting for a counter example...
    • In principal, I agree with your reasoning, but in practice most humans will not give credibility to anything that falls outside of their range of beliefs. The result being vi-or-die content isn't considered by the emacs-rulez crowd anyway.

      Most people do n
    • definitely, we already see enough of that already. the promise of the internet was that people's eyes would be opened up to new opinions and ideas, but instead it seems like it's a tool to let you reach out and connect to people that think exactly like yo
  • I'm thoroughly unlikely to use a system that ranks my search results based on the preferences of my friends. I know *I* never put anything but the most basic information about me online (name and website is all that's required by the Geneva Convention, right?). So anyone whose searches are based on *my* stated interests will find a bunch of Dixie Chicks stuff, and little else.

    And what about my searches based on *their* interests? Do I even *want* to know what they're doing with their time online? Even if the results aren't personalized ("Jim would probably like this link"), I'd rather not do a search on sushi restaurants [cliffdwellermagazine.com] and learn to my dismay that one or more of my friends has interests that include tentacle porn. And I don't even want to *think* about what could happen on a search for a good plate of cabrito [texasmonthly.com]!
  • Seriously, can anyone see this being more pertinent than regular searches? I don't know about you people, but I don't necessarily have much in common with my few friends, so if a friend of mine is into Paris Hilton or international law that's not necessari

    • I think it would be easier for stalkers and pedophiles to gain enough information from searched to find a point of contact. Especially if it remotely references the point or perspective in th results, IE "you might be interested in X because fiend Mya, mys
  • "Sorry, I can't friend you, you'll screw up my search results"
  • Somebody already tried this, as I discovered during a patent search.

    Other weird search ideas included adjusting search preferences based on what other applications are running. If you seach for "gold", you get different responses depending on whether yo

  • This kind of approach has the hidden danger that once you fall into a certain crowd, it's hard to dig your way out. It substantially increases the importance of choosing the right one because you might never climb out.

    Consider how many people think they are Democrats or Republicans just because their parents are. (Parents are just an example, so don't be too quick to say that parents aren't the chosen network. There will be some chosen network and unless its attributes are freely advertised, you'll be signing up to have things done for you in ways that are subtle and related to others you think you know. It might just as well be "those drug fiends you kids run around with".)

    Until the mid-1990's, I used to subscribe to paper magazines about technical topics. And I'd get a lot of junk mail from vendors offering me stuff. Increasingly, I found they talked about object-oriented programming and other topics I liked. At first, I thought all my topics were winning the hearts and minds of people. But after a while, I realized they had just pigeon-holed me as interested only in those topics. What started off as a benefit they were offering me was now a kind of Hell I had to live in... I'm sure there's some relevant Twilight Zone episode I should be referencing here, but you get my point.

    Freedom comes with choice. One reason that a lot of people don't like political primaries is that it limits choice. If you can control the primary process (which has traditionally gotten very little oversight--though this year probably got more than average), you have a great deal of control of the election. People focus on the election as the thing that can be tampered with, and they make a polite fuss about who gets invited to this and that debate, about who takes this and that money, about the price of media, and so on. But it's those things, not a few hanging chads in the vote itself, that probably really sway the election. The damage is already done by time you reach the voting booth.

    And what if everyone in the network is trusting everyone else, and no one is at the helm? Or what if someone deviates from the network--is that weighted low as anomalous or high as important that it wasn't statistically predicted and might signify something the group should peer at? I don't see leaving these questions to a search engine... I think people should retain this right and responsibility.

  • See subject. I'm depressed. :(
  • But this probably isn't it.

    Google uses a basic citation index, but as far as I know doesn't consider references, multiple generations of citation, references or citations, citations of references, duplication of citations/references (mirrors should not w

  • Did you mean delvr? Results 1-10 of 12,000.
  • by 4D6963 (933028) on Friday February 01, @06:01PM (#22267414) Homepage Journal

    That would be cool if they used your friends and such to suggest you new people to become friends with, à la Last.fm [www.last.fm], with people instead of music.

    Well to LastNig.ht [lastnig.ht]. According to your Facebook profile, you recently "hooked up" with Sally, Michelle and Brandy. LastNig.ht BETA suggests you to try to hook up with the following people : Stacy. Pam. Jeff.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      That would be cool if they used your friends and such to suggest you new people to become friends with, à la Last.fm [www.last.fm], with people instead of music.
      We've been arguing about that concept here at the office lately. I'm of the opinion that
  • inside the box (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Tom (822) on Friday February 01, @06:14PM (#22267560) Homepage Journal
    That's exactly what most of the dumbasses who vote people like Bush into office need: A world-view tuned more to what and who they already know.

    Thanks for making sure they'll never be confronted with the world outside their small box.