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Submitted by cstacy
cstacy (534252) writes "Google has removed the Navigation app from the Android smartphones, and released a new version of Google Maps (which they think replaces Nav). Customer response seems to be universally negative.

Maps is not an in-car navigation app like Nav. It doesn't have a UI suitable for use in a car, and lacks most of the significant features such as traffic alerting, ETA, alternate routes selection, plan/turn view toggling, and much more. Moreover, the new version of Maps apparently crashes all the time.

It's a breathtaking move on Google's part. Many people, like me, purchased their devices (mine's a Samsung Note 2) specifically because of the excellent Nav app provided on the ROM. People are really upset. No word from Google."

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Comment: Counterpoint (Score 1) 444

by NetSettler (#36383930) Attached to: Ask Slashdot: Best Certifications To Get?

I'd like to offer some counterpoint. There is some truth to what you say, certainly. Fluency/competence is important in both arenas. However, quite a number of years ago (1990), I made the observation (in the context of a discussion about intellectual property and whether copyright should apply) that literature is essentially a "divergent" activity and that programming, being an engineering activity, is "convergent". That is, if assigned an English paper to write, there's a very high chance that you will be graded down if you turn in the same answer as someone else. By contrast, if assigned a piece of code to write, you will often be graded down if you turn in a different answer than someone else.

This should give you pause as you consider things like copyrights and patents, given that the engineering activity wants to guide you to both copy and independently create works similar to what others have done, while that's not true of literature, yet the same copyright property laws span both of these areas. There's something odd about that.

Anyway, independent of the IP issues, there are good reasons that we want engineers to learn to do similar things and writers to do different things. So I don't doubt that you're right that there is some overlap of skill and activity, but I wanted to point out that the skill of being a writer of literature and of being a writer of code also have some really material differences.

Comment: Nobel Prize could replace software patent system (Score 1) 229

by NetSettler (#36356548) Attached to: Why There's No Nobel Prize In Computing

I've long suggested that what we should do with software patents is dispense with most of them and instead turn the quest for software excellence from a race to make inane patents into a competition for an elite prize, such as the Nobel. It would eliminate many bogus patents, plus no one would be confused about what was patented and what wasn't, since almost nothing would be patented. I'd have maybe given Nobels for things like RSA encryption or LZW compression, for example--things that took a work to create, aren't likely to be independently created and really serve people. The "prize" could be getting the patent, which most things would not get—though a maximum 5 year term would be best, any more is too long in the modern world of computers. Getting a patent would mean you didn't need a monetary prize, which would make the award cheap to offer. :)

Comment: Re:Ha Ha, mine goes to 11 (Score 1) 615

by NetSettler (#36348000) Attached to: Cheap GPUs Rendering Strong Passwords Useless

we need to move to two-factor authentication schemes ASAP.

And by this I assume you don't mean first letting the attacker guess our regular password and then second letting them guess our cousin's middle name or some such other bit of info trivially available from facebook or ancestry.com. :)

Sigh. I've bargained down to where I'd think it a major step forward if there were at least a law against using the word "security" as part of the name for those stupid fixed-set questions. It's probably more than one can hope for to actually forbid their use.

Comment: subtle issues (Score 4, Insightful) 175

by NetSettler (#36323224) Attached to: Researcher Claims Magnets Can Affect Blood Viscosity
As a treatment in an emergency to quickly resolve a bad situation on a temporary basis, it sounds fine. As a therapy to hold back trouble, it sounds less fine. Not that the same isn't perhaps true of aspirin in some ways but since one can quantify the effect here and since one might not see as many negatives, I predict this will get used with less reservation than aspirin. What holds people back from using aspirin more is the fear of side-effects, but if you were assuming there were fewer to this, you might be inclined to lean more heavily on this one's stated capacity limitations. It eliminates a margin for error such that if a person really regularly took advantage of it, they'd be well over the maximum limit and any failure to use the magnets would sound fatal. Moreover, it won't surprise me if it creates some situation in which a bunch of aligned things, while normally they work well, can also create unexpected kinds of clots or other problems not previously possible to create in more chaotic systems. It certainly doesn't sound as glowingly positive to me as a term like "drug-free therapy" is supposed to imply. It sounds more like the potential pitfalls are hidden in different places, like the way nuclear radiation is "drug-free". Not that we're talking radiation effects here, but we're definitely not talking automatically safer than drugs, either.

Comment: Re:Enough of this (Score 1) 811

by NetSettler (#35178814) Attached to: Amazon Pulling Out of Texas Over $269 Million Tax Bill

But they still owe the State of Texas $269 million

I was looking for a comment by someone noting this. It seemed unlikely someone (corporations are people, too) could just leave and be absolved of taxes.

they were supposed to be collecting that money from their customers

Thanks for making this point, too. I wonder, though, if this is just posturing to create negotiating room for special treatment in exchange for protecting some jobs. It could even be an orchestrated bit of theatre to offer foundation for some politician's "government overhead is hurting business" claim.

What's most troubling to me is that there is little harm to businesses for such temper tantrums. It may seem good to their bottom line to make such threats, but at the end of the day even if it improves their bottom line it comes at great cost to communities. And they did sales, should have known this was a cost, were permitted to pass the cost visibly to customers, so I just don't see how they were wronged and why this tantrum is righteous.

Comment: Re:The kill switch would be the biggest threat (Score 1) 339

by NetSettler (#35154070) Attached to: Is an Internet Kill Switch Feasible In the US?
Perhaps they should just slow the net down in that case, since it's really speed that's the problem. Things happen too fast in an attack so if you can just make things run in slow-motion, you have time to act. Oh, wait, we already have a way to slow things down: We can just give up on net neutrality. Then we'll have slowness built into at least part of the system from the get-go--no need for a switch. At first it will be a bummer being on the slow net and envying the guys on the fast net getting data back and forth at lightning speed, but when viruses get released, they'll go first to the people on the fast net and the "little people" on the slow net can just sit and watch and take notes, so that eventually when the virus traffic "trickles down," they'll be ready, not to mention thankful to have the premium people out there on the front lines as the First Adopters for the virusware. (Yeah, I'm just kidding, but...)

Comment: Re:Why do you need to be anonymous at all? (Score 4, Informative) 193

by NetSettler (#32908874) Attached to: New Chinese Rule Requires Real Names Online
  • It may also be necessary for the personal safety of people who are being stalked, doing whistleblowing, or even just dating and wanting to chat without committing.
  • It can be necessary to express any unpopular political opinion. Note that popular opinions require no protection but that if we assume that what's popular never changes we can just have one vote and then be done and never vote again. All political change begins as a minority viewpoint. For example, labor organization is more easily suppressed if one can keep the organization from ever happening. The movement to stop a war might start small.
  • For some public figures, it allows the freedom to relax and speak without having their political motives challenged or their well-known credentials inappropriately applied since their voice is not as loud as when it is their well-known self, and since anonymous speech is evaluated for the worth of the statement rather than for who said it.
  • It allows the underappreciated option of having an opinion you might later want to change without being quoted for life.
  • It allows one to perform an act like shopping without having marketers of the future be able to log the action as a sign of potential interest.
  • On juries (and in paper review for refereed scientific and technical journals, for that matter), anonymous voting is considered a way of encouraging frankness and honesty.
  • In voting for politicians and political initiatives, it is considered a way to assure that votes are hard to buy or force because compliance with an improper promise or attempted coercion is not possible to track.
  • Certain people will not approach a help desk for things like medical care, contemplating suicide, or other issues if they don't believe it's anonymous.
  • Some people are just shy and prefer to speak anonymously.
  • Some religions teach that it's more humble to contribute money, time, energy, etc.) anonymously, not drawing attention to self.

Comment: Re:The Significance of the Recession in Publishing (Score 1) 368

by NetSettler (#30880728) Attached to: NYTimes Confirms It Will Start Charging For Online News In 2011

The old print papers can't survive. Their cost structure is too high, their product is stale before it's off the presses,

I wasn't talking just about print publishing, I was talking about "the media of the day". In fact, in writing the sentence you quote, I was as much talking about TV and how TV news took a back seat. (As illustrated, for example, if you prefer non-print media, in the movie Network or the Earth to the Moon's episode on Apollo 13.) It's all the same. The issue of getting distribution to work is a problem they've actively confronted on the web. They get news out as fast as anyone. But that's not the problem. The problem is people don't value news, or that the market model for valuation is wrong. They will value it if it goes away. They'll say more should have been done. They're just making a gamble they won't have to value.

It's the same as what's going on with the environment. When it goes away, people will say we should have done more. But right now they're engaged in a dangerous gamble that doing nothing is enough. It is inappropriate to conclude from this dangerous gamble that no one cares about having news or having a biosphere. It just means market models are not sensitive to all the correct variables. They favor the high-order-bit-of-the-moment and have no way of very usefully assigning proper value to the "stealth" (lower order, but up-and-coming) bits, the ones that will be tomorrow's high order bit in a world that's full of, if you'll pardon the nerdy pun, bit rot.

The problem of capitalism is that it assumes that it's perfectly ok for people to be whimsy, and for many things it is, just not all. News is something that can't be left to the whims of the market. Which is why I focused on the issue of profit centers.

And, incidentally, I'm not anti-capitalism. I have no agenda to make the world socialist or anything like that. I just see capitalism as a tool with limitations like any other tool, not as a religion. Capitalism only works when the market's use of money maps correctly to people's real interests. And I simply worry that treating news like any other entertainment is very, very bad in a democracy that relies on voters to have good information in order to make good choices.

Comment: The Significance of the Recession in Publishing (Score 1) 368

by NetSettler (#30842814) Attached to: NYTimes Confirms It Will Start Charging For Online News In 2011

It won't work. They already know this - they've tried it before. Stupidity is doing the same thing you did before and expecting different results. "This time it's different!" Yes, it is. Much more competition, the Great Recession, high unemployment. 3 more reasons to fail. The industry needs massive consolidation - like maybe 90% of the print papers folding.

Actually, I think the real rule is that stupidity is trying the same thing you did before in the same circumstances and expecting different results. But the circumstances are not the same, as you indicate. Now it's true the outcome may not be different, but it's not true that it's obvious that the outcome will not be different.

What's ironic and sad about the fact that you cite the recession is that one reason there's a recession is a lack of jobs. And the lack of jobs is created by a lack of money to hire people, including at the New York Times. They are not wanting to charge because they want to stick it to you, they want to survive and to keep people employed.

So if you think the recession matters--and you must, since you cited it as relevant here--then you should buy a subscription. And tell your friends to. And soon if everyone does, it may be seen as a valid business model.

Imagine that--paying for content. I know it sounds quaint, but think of the implications: The actual producers of content would be benefiting for the content they actually produced. Why on Earth would you be smugly suggesting it was somehow better for people to be feebly rewarded by advertising dollars, which (a) doesn't reward the content producers really, (b) does reward the advertisers when they didn't do anything except pay feeble amounts that don't buy a cup of coffee for most content producers, and (c) drags the entire industry off in search of content that advertisers like instead of in search of content that end-users want.

Forget the pay scheme. I, the end user, want to read stuff because it's good to read, not because someone can find a way to make a buck on accessories for it. I don't want people preferring to write about the planet Saturn rather than the planet Jupiter because there's a car named Saturn that might put up its ads next to remarks about the planet Saturn. I want people to write good stuff about any topic they want and then to get paid in proportion to their goodness. Like used to happen. Quaint? I think not. More like lost rationality.

Yes, it might not work. But like getting a decent health care system, I'd rather see them fail trying than give up because it's a lost cause. Don't be defeatist, be encouraging.

One final point: These are people among the most trusted in the world to report on politics. If they fold because you insist they have old-fashioned ways and should yield to the "advertising" model of free content, the problem is that we may soon find that advertisers are trying to sway them away from things that good reporters need to cover. What then? The news industry suffered a serious blow in the late 60's or maybe early 70's, don't quite recall, when news went commercial and had to show a profit. That's a tough thing. But at least let them show a profit on their actual news, don't make them have to contort news content to be profitable on some other basis. If not for them, do it for us: the citizens. When things go wrong (oops, they have: economy, health, climate change, wars, torture, ...) it may turn out to matter.

And news is not just any industry. I'm actually not sure most industries are served by lack of variety, but certainly the news industry is not. So your admonition that a leading free-thinker in news should "consolidate" seems ... well, short-sighted.

Comment: Two Prior Art stories on Feature Restriction (Score 1) 394

by NetSettler (#28021295) Attached to: Microsoft Patents the Crippling of Operating Systems

Here are two more recollections in case they help:

When I worked in the mid 1980's, probably around 1986, at the now-defunct Symbolics on MACSYMA, a symbolic algebra system that lives (in an alternate timeline/universe from what some know today as MAXIMA), there was one customer who wanted a special deal and someone was foolish enough to sell it to them. The customer explained that they did not plan to use all of MACSYMA (who ever uses all of any language?) and so wanted to only pay a proportional fee for the parts of the language they planned to use. So we did extra custom work in compliance with the contract in order to build a special version of MACSYMA that had only parts of the functionality and we had the ability to unlock individual functions when they realized they had asked too little. It had to be specially administered, specially QA'd, etc. It was a huge lot of extra work. And they paid us less for it on the theory that they were not using the full thing. Bleah. (It was a brilliant query for the customer to ask but stupid for us to accept. I knew it was a disaster from the moment they said it. We should have just written it off as an error on our part and given them a full license at reduced price.)

Although MACSYMA as a user application is not an operating system by the traditional meaning of the word, I have heard programs as varied as APL and Emacs described as "operating systems" because for some users they were the only thing the user planned to really use on the machine and they wanted to use all things from within it. It's not a stretch to say that MACSYMA qualified similarly as an operating system in that regard, and would be an example of prior art if foolish one-off custom contracts counted as such.

Even earlier, when I was at MIT, I think around 1980 or 1981 (I have records but not handy as I write this), after Scheme was invented but before it was integrated into MIT's programming classes, Gerry Sussman taught a transitional version of his class that was not yet 6.001 / Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs in its final form. One term he used a Lisp dialect that I had conjured on the spur of the moment (it was missing tail recursion, which drove Sussman nuts, but it was all he had on that platform at that time, so he went with it). For editing programs for this hacked up Lisp, I hastily conjured together a little editor out of TECO which was similar in command set to Emacs but was hardened to be not customizable or extensible so we could document something simple for students. I hate to characterize others' emotional states, but I think it's fair to say that Stallman hated it and got really mad at me for calling it MinEmacs because he said it was not an Emacs. He said he didn't care about the command set being Emacs-like because that didn't make something an Emacs, and that it could be a vi command set for all he cared as long as it was exensible and customizable. I explained that there were things students would trip over that they didn't want them to. He wrote a library called NOVICE that was the compromise and that kept a profile of users preferences, disabling commands by default but when you invoked them asking you if you knew what you were doing and allowing you to proceed if you answered yes. This seemed reasonable and I think it was used by many people. This was still TECO-based Emacs on the PDP-10. Later, when he created gnu emacs, he built that functionality into the core system. But basically, the NOVICE library for TECO-based Emacs, and later the gnu Emacs stuff generally was a system that had a protected set of commands that could be selectively re-enabled. It differed only in politics--the re-enabling was not held centrally by the vendor (in true Stallman fashion) but was instead left to the individual. But technologically, it seems to me that the concept is really the same as what is discussed in the summary of this topic. I didn't read the patent.

So maybe some of that would be useful as prior art.

There are a great many ways in which I part company with Stallman politically on the free software matter, but I totally agree with him that software patents are a mess. For more on my thoughts about software patent reform, see my 6-Jun-2005 WIPO feedback.

Comment: Re:Lets see... (Score 1) 247

by NetSettler (#28007789) Attached to: What Should Be In a Technology Bill of Rights?

This list of ten is not bad. Some terms are a bit vague. What "one's own hardware" is or "any device" is might require refinement. Item 9 is controversial and its presence would likely sink the proposed bill of rights, losing the others with it; I'd leave it out even though I like it conceptually for most purposes. There are cases where anonymity breach is important to allow; they're just rare. Item 10 might have a minor glitch over the definition of "speech", but no worse than the First Amendment already has.

When I saw the original article's title, I wanted to rush to promo my thoughts on Universal Business Access. Looks like its article 2 addresses it a different way, which is probably mostly ok. But the original article has problems for me in Articles 3 and 4. Article 3 looks well-meaning but likely to be full of problems; I can easily imagine a need for exceptions. As for Article 4, if someone's not being forced to buy the closed source software, I don't see why more than just market dynamics is required. Putting these kinds of things in a Bill of Rights seems a little off. Mostly I think rights should be things that can be asserted against the state (or a state-like monopoly provider like an ISP or cable provider), not against individuals and they shouldn't be full of details that might need to change.

Your list of 10 looks to be in better syntactic form for a bill of rights.

Comment: Science, and how regular people talk about it (Score 1) 204

by NetSettler (#27607151) Attached to: New Data Center Will Heat Homes In London

No, it will PRODUCE exactly zero power (unless you want to set foot in negative-number territory). It might SAVE nine MW of power that won't be used to heat homes anymore, but it isn't producing anything except heat.

With "science" reporting like this, it's no wonder our world is slipping back into the superstitions of the Dark Ages.

True, but I think this war has already been lost. Have you noticed how much difficulty they're having labeling new energy-efficient light bulbs for people who think "watts" are a unit of brightness?

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