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Linux-Based Musical Keyboard Workstation Debuts 184
Henry G. writes "Lionstracs of Italy has released the Mediastation X-76 music workstation. It runs Red Hat and KDE 3.1. The base model features a 1.67 Ghz Athlon, 512MB RAM, 80GB HD, CDRW/DVD-ROM, 8.2" LCD, and a host of other things. Full specs can be found here and pictures can be found here. To this submitter, it looks more like a keyboardized computer than a computerized keyboard."
A piano keyboard for input? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:A piano keyboard for input? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:A piano keyboard for input? (Score:1, Funny)
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Re:A piano keyboard for input? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:A piano keyboard for input? (Score:4, Funny)
Egg a facade; deface!
Deb acceded a bad deed.
Re:A piano keyboard for input? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:A piano keyboard for input? (Score:3, Funny)
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You could write a thesis with those!
Re:A piano keyboard for input? (Score:2)
Re:A piano keyboard for input? (Score:2)
Re:A piano keyboard for input? (Score:2)
Re:A piano keyboard for input? (Score:1)
acceded, baggage, cabbage, and facaded were the longest matches on my machine
Re:A piano keyboard for input? (Score:1)
BACH = Bb A C B (Score:2)
Already Slashdotted!! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Already Slashdotted!! (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Already Slashdotted!! (Score:2)
No - it just means that their IT staff employs cockroaches, which explains how their site went from zero to slashdeath in 3.7 comments.
Re:Already Slashdotted!! (Score:2, Informative)
Looks just about right (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Looks just about right (Score:1)
Re:Looks just about right (Score:2)
Right. I purchased a Korg Trinity about 4 years ago, and it has a GUI touchscreen, optional hard drive, OS updates, the whole nine yards. It's an amazing piece of technology (even today), but I feel it was a bit hobbled by its measely 32-voice polyphony. If I'm reading the specs on this Lionstracs board, it has (256???) voice polyphony? I'd like to hear this thing.
Re:Looks just about right (Score:1)
Re:Looks just about right (Score:2)
No, more add-ons OPTIONAL putS it a generation ahead.
Can I run Logic on it ? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Can I run Logic on it ? (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:Can I run Logic on it ? (Score:1)
And I doubt Steinberg will port Cubase SX to Linux within the next months...
Re:Can I run Logic on it ? (Score:1)
Re:Can I run Logic on it ? (Score:1)
Re:Can I run Logic on it ? (Score:2)
Logic does a lot of MIDI, and that's actually the way it's used the most (sequencer on steroids).
Re:Can I run Logic on it ? (Score:2)
Re:Can I run Logic on it ? (Score:2)
It's pretty much a clone of an earlier Logic.
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Gosh dangit (Score:1)
Anyway, before it got /.'ed, anybody catch what kind of DSP cards they were using? 256 polyphonic voices per card with a dedicated 256megs RAM. That sounds impressive.
Google cache (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Google cache (Score:2)
Website design: -1, Non-Intuitive (Score:3, Interesting)
The focal point is a picture of a keyboard, with these "helpful" navaids:
Wow, that's clear. I always think "Demo" when I look at the bottom left corner of a keyboard at Best Buy.
It's a computerized keyboard, which implies a computer-human interface. Let's hope that the design team responsible for the web site wasn't allowed anywhere near the actual prodcuct. "Click on the penguin's right toe for MIDI Configuration!"
Re:Website design: -1, Non-Intuitive (Score:2)
Well, I'd send you to my own site [dixie-chicks.com], but I'm afraid that what it lacks in flashy, useless graphics is more than made up for by its difficult navigation, dead links, and outdated information...
So yes, I'm PKB'ing [potkettleblack.com].
Re:Website design: -1, Non-Intuitive (Score:2)
The problem here is that the interface forces the user to make arbitrary connections between parts of a picture and functions/parts of the site. Without the descriptive text (which happens all too often), the user would have the additional burden of remembering which part does what. This one is a bit better than most: it clearly indicates which parts can be clicke
Linux-Based Musical . . . (Score:2, Funny)
Linux-Based Musical
And I thought that a LotR musical would be bad enough...
Re:Linux-Based Musical . . . (Score:1)
There's no business
like SCO business
like no business we know
everything about it is appealing
stealing everything the traffic will allow
nothing beats the pleasure they are feeling
when they are stealing
your linux code
No, maybe not.
Re:Linux-Based Musical . . . (Score:1)
Write in C
Stop the bash
Fsck you
I'm your Xserver...
This is good to see... (Score:2)
Do Musicians care about Linux? (Score:5, Insightful)
With software synths (Reason, Reaktor, plus the various VST and DXi synths available) gaining in popularity, a laptop and a small USB keyboard are all many electronic musicians need to get going. Factor into this the low cost (since downloading of MP3s is killing small/new artists more than it harms anyone associated with the RIAA), and the fact that even electronic musicians are not highly technically savvy ("Yo, mate, I plugged my 'board into the Insert Jack on this Mackie, becuase I want to Insert the sound, right?"), musicians will tend to go with what everyone else is using because then support is easy to find. Unless some new device offers some unique and killer sound with a dirt simple or intuitive user interface, it's just another box destined to fade into obscurity.
Re:Do Musicians care about Linux? (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Do Musicians care about Linux? (Score:2, Informative)
Yeah, we care about Linux. We care that it doesn't run Pro Tools well (or at all?),
The latter.
(as far as I know) does not support USB output of audio,
This is incorrect. ALSA supports all standards-compliant USB audio and midi devices, and has done so for about a year IIRC.
does not run any quality professional software,
professional != commercial. At the risk of sounding like a stuck record: http://ardour.sf.net http://www.all-day-breakfast.com/rosegarden http I could go on...
and will not be
Re:Do Musicians care about Linux? (Score:1)
Re:Do Musicians care about Linux? (Score:2)
Many times the musician will seek help in determining what software he/she wants or needs. My friend, a musician, has been talking to me about computers, software, etc. that his group could use to record and do various other stuff. Also, I doubt that there aren't at least a few hundred musicians out there that use and maybe even develop on Linux.
Re:Do Musicians care about Linux? (Score:2)
they even encoded it in ogg.
Comment removed (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Do Musicians care about Linux? (Score:1, Insightful)
Musos also care about drivers and unfortunately Linux doesn't deliver on this like Windows does.
Answer: Some.. (Score:4, Interesting)
The future for Linux holds many things. Hackers composing music? You bet.
Re:Do Musicians care about Linux? (Score:2)
Re:Do Musicians care about Linux? (Score:2, Insightful)
True, and Linux would fit the bill when it comes to stability and affordability. As to "sounding like they want it to sound", A/D or D/A conversion with the same sound card should produce the same results regardless of the OS. You can get ALSA support for most contemporary sound cards. But yes, VST plugin support sucks in Linux at the moment. I wish it were otherwise. Give me even a half decent multitrack w
Re:Do Musicians care about Linux? (Score:2)
Re:Do Musicians care about Linux? (Score:2)
Not true. I'm a musician and a Linux geek. I refuse to pay outrageous fees to be shackled to proprietary software.
While being a musician isn't my day job, I still play paid gigs, and go to rehearsals three nights a week.
And while I'll admit that the selection of composition software for Linux is rather weak, I have a method to get around that; my day job title happens to be "computer scientist" ;-)
Re:Do Musicians care about Linux? (Score:2)
I'm not exactly a musician, but I'm most notably someone who cares about written word, graphical design, and such - in short, I'd be a printer.
And I think GNU Lilypond [lilypond.org] absolutely rules. Definitely this is the best notation software I've seen - produces easily the most beautiful computer-printed scores I've seen. All this free.
I like it because it allows me to work on musical scores just as easily as I work on any text. Also, it has - if I need it - support for macro-like constructs, so it also mildly in
Notice the webhosting software (Score:5, Funny)
I suppose it's appropriate if you're gonna be slashdotted.
Music Open Source software (Score:4, Informative)
http://ardour.sourceforge.net/
http://audacity
http://www.musictheory.net/
Other interesting I forgot ?
Re:Music Open Source software (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Music Open Source software (Score:2, Informative)
freqtweak : freqtweak.sourceforge.net
(Nothing else can do what this does... Spectral delay comes close, but can't warp parts of the spectrum to others...)
zynaddsubfx http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net/
Nice softsynth.
Re:Music Open Source software (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Music Open Source software (Score:2)
Rosegarden [all-day-breakfast.com]
Ardour is appealing for enthusiastic amateurs, because they can grasp the concept easier. But you need something like Rosegarden (MIDI sequencer) to do actual music.
Re:Music Open Source software (Score:2)
To actually make that music, you need some sequencers of sorts, some synthesizers, etc. That's where Rosegarden, Hydrogen, etc. enter the scene.
Re:Music Open Source software (Score:1)
http://www.lilypond.org
http://www.all-day
http://rnvs.informatik
http://www.mutopiaproject.org/
The last one is a site with public domain music entered as lilypond score.
sites down(/.ed) (Score:4, Funny)
Beefy back end required... (Score:2)
What it is, is a music workstation - it allows you to compose, arrange, and send to disc all your musical thoughts. Whether it's music or not...
The backend to a music workstation needs to have more guts to it these days, which is why they are letting you know what's under the hood in the OS department. My preference is to have a PC that you can trade out all the components for, including recording & m
Good. (Score:1)
Re:Good. (Score:2)
A new record! (Score:2, Funny)
Since site is down... (Score:2)
Re:Since site is down... (Score:1)
It is a great idea but the price is to high.
Most musos and engineers these days are thinking about using their old computer(s) to run software FX and their new computers for the workstation.
I think the reason that computers will never fully take over is because computers don't really multi-task or run operations in parallel. They try to fool us by changing quickly from one task to another.
However a 96 channel desk
Re:Since site is down... (Score:2)
Zen Koan (Score:2)
yuck (Score:2)
How much? (Score:1)
Sounds like the Apple Alpha Centauri Synth (Score:2)
ttyl
Farrel
Re:Sounds like the Apple Alpha Centauri Synth (Score:2)
Also, I wonder whether Apple had any trouble from the Beatles company when they tried marketing it. (Was that before or after the agreement that Apple Computer could keep their name as long as they stayed out of anything music-related?)
Re:Sounds like the Apple Alpha Centauri Synth (Score:2)
ttyl
Farrell
Movie industry key in bringing linux audio to life (Score:2, Interesting)
1. Drivers for at least one professional audio card need to be written for linux. I would expect to see multi-channel recording, midi, and ASIO 2.0 drivers at the very least.
2. Applications like Cubase, WaveLab, Sonar, and Reaktor need to become available for linux.
We've still got quite a long way to go before this becomes a reality, but if hollywood keeps using Linux for movies then eventually they might start demanding it for
Re:Movie industry key in bringing linux audio to l (Score:2)
Now all I have to do is get a sample editor under Linux for the Ensoniq EPS keyboard I have...
ttyl
Farrell
Re:Movie industry key in bringing linux audio to l (Score:1)
Re:Movie industry key in bringing linux audio to l (Score:1)
You're behind the times. ALSA has drivers for the RME cards and for ICE1712-based cards (including M-audio Delta and many others). This has been true for at least a couple years, I don't remember the exact timeline. I use a Delta 66, it works beatifully. With a properly set up system, latency meets or beats any Windows / ASIO platform
Re:Movie industry key in bringing linux audio to l (Score:1)
My point is that while solutions may exist for linux, everything I've seen is still lacking compared with the powerhouse apps like Reaktor and Cubase. It would be nice if the big wigs would just port their stuff to linux, but hey it might happen with open source too. If it does though I still think the movie industry is going to be partly responsible for the development that results in widespread professional adoption of o
Re:Movie industry key in bringing linux audio to l (Score:2)
>card need to be written for linux.
The Delta cards work pretty darn well. But yeah, there isn't anything to compete with Cubase. I wish the Magix folks would just go ahead and release their stuff for Linux. That would do it for me. I actually prefer using Magix Audio Studio over Cubase.
Cheap is good (Score:1)
But of course, that isn't the point with this product. It's a great entry point for beginners; and may possibly be an excuse for those with weekly gigs to downsize somewhat and not have to lug multiple sequencers around.
Many kudos to the developers; What a br
Some familiar developers on this project. (Score:1)
http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML
Price (Score:1)
X-76? (Score:1)
Those keyboards were so nicley laid out.
I consider them to be the Commodore64/Amiga of keyboards.
To bad they went the they way of the C-64.
They were bought out by E-MU systems.
features, capabilities (Score:3, Informative)
Hi,
While the Mediastation X-76 uses embedded Linux within some of the 11 in-house developed DSP cards, it is a hard disk based system with commodity computer components. Of course the value of commodity parts is that they're affordable and users can upgrade them.
The eleven Lionstracs DSP cards are the result of two years and $500,000.00 U.S. of research and development. The basic system includes two wavetable DSP cards with 128 voices on each card. These cards run the sam9708 firmware which is common in high end keyboards. The system can be ugraded to run four wavetable cards, 512 voices. The X-76 is tentatively scheduled for release in April, 2004.
Of course the OS is Linux based, with low latency and preemption patches to the kernel and it runs Alsa. With Alsa the system is able to run Jack Audio Connection Kit (JACK). Jack is a low latency audio server that automatically detects hardware ports and user defined application ports. So, routing data from one application to another is simple. Jack also inludes jack_transport where Jack clients are automatically synced to each other. Any jack client can initiate transport commands.
Any available Linux audio applications can be run on the system. Lionstracs will package and maintain a selection of GPL licensed applications including audio, midi and video. Plus, there's modem and ethernet capabilities so software upgrades are "free" (GPL) and automatic.
There will be three unused pci slots available on the basic X-76 system. These pci slots can be occupied with professional grade audio cards like those from RME. So you can build the workstation into a 24 track recording studio.
With JACK and an RME audio card, the user can start Ardour (DAW), JAMin, (audio mastering tools) and Rezound (destructive wave editing). Jack enables routing of the audio chain and syncs the transports. In this scenario the audio source to the mastering tool is multitrack. Very cool!
The X-76 has two hardware transports that can be mapped to any application transport. Of course these applications include sampler, DAW, midi sequencer, etc. One of the included applications is the Lionstracs full featured DJ mixer/player.
Because Linux is a multitasking environment, in live performances a midi sequence that's playing can be fed into the Seq24 based style player where the beat can be changed from rock to reggae on the fly.
The X-76 is designed for live performance where navigation speed to application interfaces is vital. There are 120 configurable hardware buttons on the top panel. The use of a mouse is not necessary.
It also has a 116db dynamic range analog mixer matrix with master, cue and eight stereo in/outs. In a live situation you mix multitrack DAW to stereo_out:1, hardware transports to stereo_out[2,3], sampler_out:4,mic_out1and2:5, etc. This is typical functionality required in DJ/House control systems. Of course it would also be simple to sync MIDI control light mixers and beyond this, the X-76 video outputs can feed projector systems, etc.
The disk based sampler includes time stretch, pitch correction and beat matching algorithms that are usable to +/- 30% without audio artifacts.
I want one! (Score:2)
(It's Thin Film Transistor Liquid Crystal Display, for those who wonder.)
Re:good work! (Score:2)
Re:How long (Score:2)
About 50 years, and then only as punishment for failing second grade OS design basics.
Re:How long (Score:1)
Re: (Score:2)
Re:let's get this straight (Score:1)
In soviet russia, it's keyboardized computer.
Soviets don't seem to have 'a' or 'an' to speak of.
Re:let's get this straight (Score:1)
In Soviet Russia, he keyboardized computer.
Re:let's get this straight (Score:1)
He keyboardized computer. He have wirus. You should clean now. Wery bad wirus.
Re:Why Athlon? (Score:2)
intel chips not only have worse FP performance, they have an unbelievably bad problem with denormals that can cause code to slow down by factors of 4-100.
Re:Why Athlon? (Score:2)
Re:Why Athlon? (Score:2)
LoB
Re:Man.... (Score:2, Funny)