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Comment Not a fan? Grow up! this is the alternative!!! (Score 1) 101

never been a fan of Sleepy Joe but things were less chaotic when he was POTUS even during COVID.

Politicians are like toilets. You're not supposed to like them, just pick the least gross one. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. Sorry, princess, you don't get a everything you want AND a pony. You need to pick the least worst candidate. Even in the primaries. As you admitted, you don't like Joe Biden, but agreed things were better. He was never my favorite, either....but it's him or Trump.

So stop complaining. Pick the least worst candidate and encourage those who will listen to you to pick the rational, sensible decision. Do I like the Democrats? Eh...nope, not really. However, Clinton's record is the best in my lifetime. He entered with a record deficit and left with a record surplus. Bush Jr did the polar opposite. I even think GWB was a cool guy. I'd totally have a beer with him and probably laugh the whole time...would I want him to be president again?...hell no, I thought he ruined the country with his reckless spending and pointless war + that whole patriot act thing....but if he was running against Trump?...OK...GWB it is.

So grow the fuck up, and stop being a democracy pillow princess. Vote with your mind and not your heart. Does AOC/Mamdami inspire me? Nope...not at all. But if it were them or Trump 2.0?...I'd vote for them and not complain.

Democrats are like chemotherapy. It's a miserable shitty experience, but it's far better than letting the cancer spread. This whole liberal vs conservative narrative is a hoax. Nothing about Trumpism is conservative. Similarly, Democrats are not liberal, unless your mind is stuck in the 1950s, back when you could use the N-word freely in most circles.

Modern politics are about adults vs children. The children are fun...build the wall, Mexico will pay for it!...I'll solve all our financial problems with tariffs and China and someone else (China/retailers) will pay it...not you!!!....hey, don't notice our FAILING economy and how your financial prospects are getting worse...look at all the "illegals" we're rounding up like the big tough guys we are!!!. That's fucking fun, but it's a lie and a fantasy. Democrats are boring adults that balance the budget and respect you rights A LOT MORE than Republicans. And I get it, it's a drag....paying for shit in a sustainable way is a buzz kill.

However, the Democrats have no room or freedom to be liberals or chase their ideals because we have this shitty cycle where a Republican breaks the economy (or technically it breaks because through a combination of easily predictable economic phenomena, their reckless laws and tax cuts, and they fail to mitigate the harm through the many obvious solutions available), Bush Sr did, Bush Jr did, and Trump did...and then a Democrat comes in...battles with child like Republican congresspeople who post about Jewish Space Lasers and talk about Pizzagate....fixes the economy...things are boring and stable...and people like you complain about the stupidest shit imaginable, forgetting what we endured...and then a new child gets nominated, makes bold promises...and gets elected...and predictably tanks the economy. Who was the last Republican that left the economy in a better state than it was when he was elected?

It's easy to remember Mexico will pay for this wall....but also, don't forget GWB telling you he'll privatize social security...and how he took a record surplus and blew it on tax cuts that only benefited the wealthy, like repealing the estate tax....so rich assholes can pass more of their money to their worthless offspring while starving you of basic gov functions.

Grow the fuck up. You sound like some asshole who nearly died of COVID complaining about a sore throat from having a doctors save his life with a ventilator.

Comment Re:Has he read the books? (Score 2) 65

You need to read those stories again. The DIDN'T take over running society. There is, however, a backstory where they wiped out all non-human life in the galaxy to make it safe for people. (I don't think that was really in his mind while he was writing most of the stories, but he added it towards the end when he was trying to merge his story universes into one.)

If you read "Robots and Empire" the robots aren't really running the Empire, just trying to subtly guide it. The last book in the cycle does end up with an indication that the Robots are going to take over, but that's never really explored.

OTOH, if you were to take the English language version of the first law seriously, it would have the effect you postulate. But the English language version is supposed to be only a very rough translation of the actual mathematics behind the robot brains. (He didn't phrase that as "programming", but that's probably about what he meant.) If you try to translate a program into English, you're going to get something quite a bit different from the actual program. Especially if it's a complex program and you translate it into 3 short pithy sentences. Note that in different stories the robots are built with different limitations, but they always summarize it with the same 3 laws. Consider how in "Little Lost Robot" one of the laws is weakened.

That said, remember that these stories were fiction, designed to be an entertaining exploration of the problem space.

Comment Re:Um... (Score 1) 65

I think the problem you're alluding to isn't really dealt with by Asimov, but by Jack Williamson in the story "With Folded Hands". It was such a good story that Campbell had to accept it even though he hated the message so much he coerced Williamson into writing a solution ...and the only solution Williamson could come up with relied on magic ("The Humanoids").

Comment Re:Wise men like Asimov (Score 1) 65

He had doubts from the beginning. Read the stories. I think I can remember 3 robots in the entire series (including Caves of Steel et seq.) that were trustworthy, though the background indicates that there must have been many more. And he appeared to even have doubts about Daneel...though he never wrote the story exploring those doubts.

Comment Re:Why? (Score 1) 24

We don't know the exact answer yet, but IMO, you're two-halves right.

The key difference is, humans aren't "trained" primarily via a clean library of tagged data (which in itself is a learned skill). We experience the world as a more-or-less continual stream of noisy data from our several senses. We self-train how to interpret (and primarily, filter) sensory data; and more importantly, how to derive new training data from it.

To be clear, I'm not saying we have so many neurons to support input filtering (though that's admittedly at least partially true). I'm saying we virtually can't run out of new training data. Every second we're alive, it just keeps coming in.

Comment Re:We are also paying the Germans 1.2 billion (Score 1) 124

Well, my source was a few years ago, but there was a real problem transporting them anywhere for processing. Still, that sounds like something that could readily be solved (it just hadn't been), and ISTR that I did read something about plans to grind them up...though not for the later steps you mention.

Comment Why? (Score 4, Interesting) 24

Current top models are already undertrained by multiple orders of magnitude vs their number of parameters. Not for lack of will or money, but for lack of data - We're already training top models with effectively the entire digitally-available corpus of human knowledge and need about a thousand times more.

That said, the huge Chinese models we've seen lately aren't single models, they're MOEs - Effectively a hive-mind of many smaller models working in concert. Bytedance hasn't mentioned that detail yet but it would somewhat mitigate the training issue. This is still absurdly over-spec'd though. There's simply no way to train it any more than all the rest starving for data.

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