You probably can replace the Light emitting diode by a regular ass, non-light emitting diode

They just see computer number 1 and computer number 2 at the store.
And computer number 2 is getting comparatively much, MUCH better than computer number 1, even if can't run as many games.

Cool - I triggered you - I appreciate that. Just differentiating my post to elucidate. Funny how simple things really piss off some people But I'll be gracious, Mea Maxima culpas all around.

Just so you can understand what I mean with my deep pocket statement:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

Perhaps you still don't get it - You see a wealthy person, and a very poor person. They both offend you, so you sue each one, take them to court. You win a million dollar judgement from each. Who will be able to pay you the million dollars? Point is, there is very little point in suing the person who has no chance of paying you the judgement - unless your intention is to financially destroy them for life.

A lot of people understand exactly what I wrote. Your lack of understanding does not make them wrong. Perhaps you can post the links of a small business in Europe who has been fined, oh, I don't know, 2 billion. Just like Google.

Not sure how far industrial espionage gets you here.

There's nothing fundamentally secret in lithography. We know how it works. The secret sauce is the experience, processes, know-how, highly specialised suppliers etc. The practical complexities are immense. Given the security incidents ASML already had, I'd make a bet that a large amount of the valuable data is already in China. But the supply chain and the engineering don't live on paper and are not easily duplicated.

Make no mistake - me noggin ain't right! Also, I'm a bit of an asshole.

But I'm also a good enough troll that I can trigger the bejabbers (technical term) out of people. It's a peculiar conceit I have, and being a practical troll, I engage in teh dual aspects of trolling people who may deserve it, and have fun watching them squirm.

Now, I drop to something that might resemble seriousness. You made a thoughtful post, I'll respond in kind.

You are correct in noting that evil exists, and it certainly isn't something concentrated in the USA. Any group, any nation, any country has a mixture of both good and evil. I'm happy to troll or go after anyone.

And one thing you might notice, is that most of my trolling is done to people who make claims of superiority, especially those who make possibly ill informed claims, or even ones that are hard to claim aren't outright false.

Always delivered with an implicit claim of European superiority. The guy who claimed the US is stuck in some previous century because we only transfer money via Checks. A reply so inane, I have to imagine some degree of ethanol intoxication was involved.

Or another who was laboring under the notion that the USA doesn't have social services. I noted that there are in truth, many services here. Section 8 housing, food stamps, medicaid for children and adults, free laptops, smartphones, and highly reduced assistance for internet, streaming to use those. Fuel oil assistance, WIC (women, infants, and children) program giving free food, vitamins, and other health supplements to single women who have young children. We have the Head Start program for children of low income parents (usually single moms) We have free school lunch programs for the same including programs to get food to the same in the summer when school is out.

Most counties have free bus service for low income and Seniors. Free transportation. As an example, if say, an eligible person lives outside a regular bus service area, they can call for a shortbus that will show up at their doorstep, pick them up and return them when they are done. The same if they live in a bus served area but have doctors appointments. Door to door. Free.

Which now brings us to a bit of an issue. When some here post memes about how Americans are one of two classes, the immorally rich, or the starving poor, that we are a fascist country with no help for the less fortunate, that we are some nexus of evil, should there be no response? If people were for instance, claiming a person was a rapist, is there no value to pushing back from that claim?

So oh hell yes, the USA has problems that many here are fighting against. I suspect the bad guys and gals among us will eventually be cast out.

When more righteous people end up doing that, there will probably be some memory of what Europeans think of us. And looking at slashdot as an example of intelligent, people, it is clear that they don't think much of us. So be it.

It is a pretty terrible combination of skills.
Good at making faulty insecure code and good at finding exploits.
The perfect combination to make any sort of "i gonna fire everyone and replace it with vibe code" plans be even worse.

The USA is definitely not perfect. To make it worse, we have to deal with the utter perfection of Europe - You do know that you can ally your perfection with China's and impose your will on the us.

So take pity on the poor evilz 'Murrican's. perhaps we'll some day reach perfection of our betters. And if not, you can build more of those special camps that are a trademark of Europe and take care of us using your core competency.

I'm half afraid to ask - what was the flavoring? Or do mean strongly hopped?

Oh I could get behind something like that!

An IPA is not a session beer, at least not to me. One, maybe two. Gonna give you a bitter stomach. It is a sort of fad among some people. I enjoy some, but not an evening's drink. I can also enjoy a dry hopped beer, the smell of hops, without anywhere near the bitterness.

SRSLY? Let us go back to my original post. I'll repeat it here

I wrote : These countries appear to have the pecuniary extraction model. Go after the deepest pockets, and come up with some way to take some of their money, because reasons. Here in the US, we see something like that in the class action suits, where a million or two who "suffered" from some indignity might sign up for a class action suit.

Perhaps there is an issue of colloquial terms. "Deepest Pockets" in no way refers to the small business you claim I am referencing. Deep Pockets very specifically means the entity or entities the most money can be extracted from.

Or is your thesis that the small businesses in Europe have the same resources that Google or Apple have?

Or perhaps the basic citizens I referred to were somehow small businesses? Trying to figure out what you mean.

Come on dood, you usually make insightful posts, and I can respect that. But saying my reference was somehow to small businesses is simply wrong. Reads more like the need to win.

Define that. What is the point between basic amenities and complete control over their citizen's lives.

And I get it, European history shows that at times, they demand total control over everything in their citizen's lives.

The really awesome thing is that since you apparently to want the government having total control, there are nations who will serve your wishes.

Let us be straight for a minute. Since you use the Strait of Hormuz, and we have a president who has always been an asshole, and worse, is deteriorating physically and mentally, and since you brought that into the argument as a valid counterpoint, I can only assume that you believe it is not only him, abut all American presidents.

We have issues and big problems at the moment. The interesting part is how many Europeans appear to be enjoying that.

Allow me to provide an example of what I am reading - If you were to speak of this Fine, and I noted that Europe keeps engaging in genocide, and they managed to mostly eliminate Jewry in Europe, not only Germany, but the nations they conquered in WW2, Citizens of those countries willingly staffed teh camps, and many fought on Germany's side -

I have a sneaking suspicion you would take umbrage at that? How is the holocaust related to the fine? It is related to teh fine in teh same way the Situation in teh strait of Hormuz is.

And that's really my point, and why I am trolling the bejeezus out of you folks. You are living in a glass house, and throwing bricks.

You're arguing with me, and I'm just enjoying tweaking y'alls noses. I can admit the US has problems we are navigating through. Are you navigating through the issues the issues Europe has with the Roma? Some of your countries won't let them swim in the same pools as the citizens they deem worthy. That's some Jim Crow level discrimination there.

Maybe everyone here loves 'Murrica. Maybe they are just using words that sound like the words a person who hates America. The problem is their talking points are coming from people who do hate America.

Because let's face it, if we want to end up talking about the Strait of Hormuz as relevant to the discussion and a doddering old ass who appears to be sick and demented, - it's a whole different set of rules.

And another point is, if every topic turns into real or imagined American evil, and how Europe has it all figured out, it seems to not be unreasonable to not expect some pushback.

Which I'm doing to troll eurocentrics, and it is pissing a lot of them off. I'll get bored with it after a while, though. And I'm coming to understand, that you can talk all day about our failings, while no one can talk about yours.

Okay, what is the allowable profit? Should it be capped?

Do I have to go into the services that US citizens can get? A friend of my wife gets Medicare, Her SS, and works part time as a waitress, pays no taxes. Section 8 housing, free smartphone, low priced internet and telephone service, free laptop, free bus transportation and food stamps. You can look all that up, I'm weary of having to bring this up time and time again with the cites

Meanwhile the popular narrative seem to always be some version of 10 wealthy billionaire Americans, and the rest of us are starving in the streets, everyone shot many times, because guns, and the only cure is communism.

There are people who love to amplify everything bad that happens in 'Murrica, and ignore teh stuff happening in other places, which I've not heard one word out of you about imperfections in other places, so I take it that is your belief.

Perhaps there is a difference in interpretation here. In the USA there are civil cases, and criminal cases. A civil case can receive monetary penalties. The plaintiff if they win are considered to be "made whole", not reap a windfall.

A criminal case involves possible fines unrelated to being "made whole", a criminal record, and incarceration and or probation.

There is a difference.

If this was in US criminal court, there would be a chance that the person at the top could end up in a cell (think Elizabeth Holmes of Theranos infamy. That was a criminal case. If say, I was sued for not paying back rent, I could be in civil court, with no chance of jail, unless I was held in contempt of court. Or a divorce is a civil action. Or even an antitrust suit.

Perhaps in Europe anything in front of a judge is considered a criminal case?

Whatever is going on, I'm having fun triggering the bejabbers out of our superiors! 8^)

Especially the Einstein that claims 'Murrica doesn't have any other payment method than checks - we invented the other method for the most part.

Oh goodness, you are comparing Google to tiny businesses that exist in the EU.

Okay, Let's assume that this is an apples to Apples comparison - there must be a list of the small local American companies that have been forced to pay billions to the EU. Since this is somehow the same thing.

I'll wait for that list, I'm sure you have it.

I do not see exactly where I said it was a class action suit. I was comparing the class action suits common in the USA to the pecuniary extraction in this instance. Come on you didn't understand that, or have I just triggered you?

Protip, I used the word "similar" in comparison between the CAS's in the US, and the outright fines in the EU. Both are pecuniary extraction.

I'd think a EU citizen, would know that, being better than us in all ways.