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Comment Re:Have your cake it and eat it too? (Score 1) 60

Dude, obviously UK will have border controls.

THEY WOULD BE AT THE BORDER OF THE EU ... how dumb are you?

It is a damn island. Of course they will have border controls.

And no one cares if they keep the pound, or what ever.

POUND and EURO are damn currencies, and have nothing to do with the EU.

Neither has Schengen anything to do with the EU.

This are contracts that only overlap a (some) certain area(s) of Europe.

You are free to choose, if the others agree, if you join the EU zone, or Schengen, or not.

And as a border country, I assume the Margrave of "the British Islands", will do his duty and do border controls to all people that enter the future EU where "the British Islands" might be a part again: just as he is doing right now!

Who is so farking stupid to assume the EU has no border controls? Farking idiots on /. do.

Comment Re:The alternative.. (Score 1) 38

what is this "long-TDS" bullshit?
the fucker has been crippling & corrupting everything since his 1st admin but was restrained by some senior people who had at least a modicum of sanity.
shitheads were whinging that Obama would be rounding up people into FEMA concentration camps whereas what he *actually* did was deport significantly more without disrupting or disobeying courts, making emergency SCOTUS applications, shooting protesting citizens dead in the streets or grifting on a historic scale.

FFS, "patriots" lost their minds when the "uppity Kenyan" wore a tan suit - like Reagan used to do - and installed a basketball court
  and derided his "mom jeans".
was that Obama Derangement Syndrome? was he wrong to not insult journalists he disagreed with, to not walk out on Bill O'Reilly?

Comment Re:If I ruled .. (Score 1) 60

A pint in a pub is "metric".

Nearly all Irish / British pubs in Germany sell pints. Either fake pints with 500ml content, but they write "pint" as headline over the drinks, or: real pints. 620ml.

You can name the stuff how ever you want, the point is that on the menu is clear: how many grams or ml that is.

What UK is doing inside of their country regarding measuring: no one cares. Relevant is if there is for example a web site that sells to France/Germany etc. and the measures "of what ever" make no sense ... then it is a problem.

Comment Re:If I ruled .. (Score 1) 60

Half of the nice people who voted for BREXIT will be dead then.
Half of the nice people who would vote next year to R-EU-JOIN, will be 40 when they could join again.

Your idea makes no sense at all ... unless you aim to keep them out forever.

Then: EU and EURO are two different things, and rightful so.

Comment Re:If I ruled .. (Score 1) 60

The official independent stats from the government, provided by the Office for Budget Responsibility, say that the UK is at least 4% worse off (in terms of GDP) than it otherwise would have been. Maybe 8% worse off.

While there have been a few economic indicators in the UK that performed okay against the rest of the EU at one time or another, the EU is made up of 27 member states, some of which are still coming up to Western European levels, and of course many of those indicators only really show that the very wealthy and big corporations have done well, not the average Brit. Inequality has been increasing in the UK.

Inequality is the biggest problem in the UK. Most of the problems blamed on immigrants are really down to inequality. Not just an unfair distribution of the tax burden, but things like foreign companies buying and asset stripping essential services. Themes Water is the poster child for that. Bought, loaded up with debt, billions and billions taken out of it in dividends and bonuses, and now it's pumping large amounts of shit into our rivers and demanding hefty bill increases to avoid bankruptcy. The government can't just let them fail because people need water to live.

It's not even new, it's just the latest in a long list of ways that we sold everything of value to foreign companies. North Sea oil should have been our sovereign wealth fund, that would have paid off the pension crisis and funded our healthcare, but instead most of the profit went into private hands.

Brexit only ensured that the EU's dislike of monopolies and plundering the economy didn't restrain them.

Comment Yeah, no shit. (Score 1) 60

Brexit happened on lies upon bloody lies by populist douchebags like Nigel Farage. The British people were once again screwed over epic style by the political class. Which made things even worse after Brexit, ironically.

We all knew Brexit would hurt, but holy cow, as much as we like to make fun of the Brits for doing Brexit, this is painful to watch. We feel you guys.

Comment Re:Racism. (Score 1) 60

This is true. The "legitimate concerns" are legitimate, e.g. availability of housing, but they are targeting the wrong people. It's the billionaire fucks who told them to commit brexicide that are causing the problems, not immigrants.

The worst part is that even after it was revealed that Farage got 5 million quid for delivering Brexit, these muppets don't seem to have realized that it's just more evidence he isn't working in their interests. He's working for the billionaires who have made him fabulously wealthy, and they aren't paying him because it's good for the plebs they have been exploiting all these years.

Comment Re:Polls don't vote (Score 1) 60

The UK mostly doesn't do voter suppression. However, they did for the Referendum. Basically, anyone who might not be racist was not permitted to vote.

Even then, 48% still insisted on staying in the EU.

One of the reasons the UK doesn't do voter suppression the way the US does is because (until very recently) the House of Lords had a lot of people in it who owed no favours at all to the political elite but did have a huge responsibility to making sure that things functioned in the long term. This has since been corrupted, so the HoL is no longer anything like as independent and politically neutral as it once was. Rather, the two main parties have stuffed it full of sycophants, which makes it useless. Which, of course, was the intended effect.

Because those in the HoL were partly hereditary (and therefore not under anyone's thumb and impossible to manipulate) and partly chosen on actual merit (they'd done stuff that was actually impressive and good for the country), the HoL were the true guardians of the Constitution and the nation. The House of Commons has always been corrupt and degenerate, so a parallel system that politicians couldn't control meant their worst excesses would always be curbed. The HoL has defended the common person FAR FAR more often than anyone in the Commons ever has.

This didn't make the HoL perfect, or even advisable to retain in its historic form, but it made it immune to the corruption that we were seeing in the rest of the system. What we needed was a replacement system that retained that immunity and improved on it.

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