And Fascism does not work very well either, but that does not prevent the current U.S. moving in that direction.

Not even close...not even with ultra liberal side of Democrats pushing facistic actions and promoting facist laws/rules and societal changes.

And all the while to promote facism they are using the term against anything center left to middle right as facist.....making the term meaningless over time much like they've done with nazi and racism....they've overused them so much then just have no meaning anymore.

Anything But China

American first, or anything manufactured on our shores......first.

Somebody wired up all those ICBM missile silos too

On the other hand, people might also genuinely thing their country, the people and the land is worth defending, at all costs.

I mean, c'mon....at the very least, we have "Ranch Dressiong".....you know...?

Kind of like how any economic system better for people in general is called communism.

nah....we all know that any form of economic system even resembling communism would not be good for anyone...at least not the common folks, only those at the time.

Sure, Capitalism sucks....but it sucks a whole lot less that ALL other forms of economic systems.....history has shown us this time and time again.

>"making it difficult for recipients to follow conversation history."
>"so forcing users to think about what they actually need to include is no bad thing."

Yeah, we kinda used to have such a thing. It was called "trim and inline reply" (bottom reply). Kinda like I JUST DID IN THIS POSTING. But, alas, that was not the Microsoft-way. So it turned into full bottom quotes just being added forever with top replies to 10 questions with no context.

>"Maybe, but I wonder why the thing that's ostensibly there to boot my system even needs to know what users there are on it. Its job is to get you from nothing to login - what happens after that is, frankly, none of its bloody business."

I guess you haven't encountered systemd-logind.service yet
https://www.man7.org/linux/man...

>"The real issue will arise when applications start requiring that date to be verified (and the fork won't help then, either)."

Bingo.

Except it won't be FOSS applications. It will be on-line crap. Having the field or not doesn't matter at all. It will be a whole matter of "chain of trust" again, where you don't actually own or control your own system. Linux/FOSS will not meet that requirement and will be rejected. Just like it is rejected in a small amount of DRM games than want to control your system.

At least with the DRM crap, it is not government-related/mandated, so market pressure can be brought to bear on such companies trying to force it. Especially relevant as the Linux "market" keeps growing and starts carrying more clout.

>"SystemD wants to grow up into a REAL despotic gatekeeping process that locks you out of your own hardware for idiotic reasons that only its developer thinks are important, just like the big corporate offerings do!"

Even if present, there is nothing requiring the user actually use a birthdate field. Or that it even be accurate. Could it be a slippery slope? Maybe. But FOSS, like Linux, is ultimately not controlled by corporate dogma or government whims, so it is unlikely that use of the field could be mandated. As long as it is up to the system owner how it is used, that should be good enough.

>"I grew up on the simplicity of Linux's three tenets:"

Those are actually Unix tenets, that Linux just inherited.

But yeah, I generally hate the idea of systemd because it is trying to be all things and in ways that make understanding and configuring things more difficult.

>"So when the battery dies, you can throw the whole device away!"

Indeed. And then it is also extremely difficult to try and recover the battery for recycling, as well, I assume.

So these devices become toxic, non-reusable, non-fixable, highly flammable, dangerous messes.

Not surprising. Tesla is its 5th generation (AI5) processor, currently manufactured by Samsung and TSMC. I suppose they imagine there are others that will want to use these for their own purposes. Musk is creating his own supply of chips for SpaceX at his TX Terafab. Having terrestrial customers to absorb some of the supply and provide revenue as that ramps up the obvious thing to do.

>"In no way is it a "first class" anything when it's only for GNOME and only in a snap. [...]There's a 0% chance I'm going to use GNOME or snap."

^^THIS

If it were a project that mapped to many/all Linux distros, using a native package (not container, especially not a SNAP container), worked on any Linux desktop environment (and yes, X11 too), then it would be far more interesting. I might even check it out and give feedback.

>"Must be incredibly relevant. You went out of you way to post how it doesn't affect you."

I am probably not the minority in the views of relevancy and I specifically wrote it could be useful for some people. But, whatever :)

I use Linux on everything. So how relevant is Canonical's announcement for me?

1) I don't use Gnome
2) I don't use Wayland
3) I don't use SNAP
4) I don't use Ubuntu
5) I have no use for desktop dictation since I can type much faster than speaking something, then reading it all again to edit and correct all the mistakes and add all the missing punctuation/etc.

At least they kept it "local" and perhaps some people might find the tool useful. So wake us up when it is a real/native package, can be used on any Linux, on any DE, on any GUI.