One of the major issues is what counts as 'a disease we should edit'.

If it is something immediately deadly, definitely a disease. If it is a major, significant inconveince, such as MS? Probably.

But what about things like deafness - where some deaf people do not even consider it to be a disability. (https://www.reddit.com/r/audiology/comments/1d3ehkz/gene_therapies_for_deafness_dredge_up_an_old/)

Then there is something like color blindness. Is that a 'disease'? If you say yes, then:

If the inability to distinguish between red and green is a disability, then what about the poor people that only have 3 types of cones, rather than 4 types of cones?
(A small percentage of humans have a mutation that gives them tetrachromacy. Instead of only having cells that detect blue, green and red, they have also have cells that can detect orange light)

Will you 'cure' the majority of people that do not have this ability? What makes it different from color blindness?
 

You ignored the content you were replying to.

It's like you interrupted a conversation about the merits of the VI Nazi Missile to talk about how we should not sway it was the best weapon of WW2 because of the Holocaust.

If you want to reply to someone, reply to them. Otherwise start your own thread.

Your intrepretation leaves a lot to be desired. The main issue is you do not understand my argument at all.

I am not objecting to the stuff sold, I object to their harvesting procedures. In other words, this is not matter of their agenda. This is instead a matter of harm done in creating the stuff they sell.

In the chemical industry there are rules and regulations about disposing of pollution. In Animal Husbandry there are rules and regulations about humane slaughter and how you deal with sick animals. In the laundry industry there are laws about the disposal of the toxic chemicals used to clean clothing.

Here they are collecting private information and we are objecting to the methods they use to collect that information. This is VERY different from objecting to their agenda. I do not care if they lie about everything.

Instead, I object to the massive harm caused not by what they say, but how they collect their product. I insist that we find a way to prevent them doing that harm not to the people that pay for their services, but instead to the people they consider to be their animal herd.

This is not about free speech - they can say anything they want to.

What they cannot do is harm the people (adult or children) that are NOT their customers but instead their product. You cannot treat people as a crop. Not even if they are foolish enough to agree to it. Not if they are adults, not if they are children, not if they are senior citizens.

The people that signup to Facebook, Instagram, etc are NOT customers and are NOT media consumers. They are the steak that is chopped up and served to the advertisers.

As such, we have the right to demand that the steak be treated well before they are served.

Right now, their are no regulations about how the companies treat their product. We need to create those regulations, not regulations about what these social media agenda may be.

There are a lot of AI driven scientific advancements. But they are not described as AI driven or have been downplayed.

The current increase in AI was caused in part because of the success that DeepMind had in protein folding. Before Google bought them out, DeepMind did real scientific work. It was so very very good at it, the DeepMind people got a Nobel Prize for their work.

https://www.nature.com/article...

Congratulations, you have successfully defined PLUTOCRACTIC ECONOMICS and mistaken it for Capitalism.

Capitalism is NOT about making money. It is a clearly defined economic system designed by Adam Smith. Read The Wealth of Nations. The Free Market is a key part of capitalism. Without it you get the horror show that you have described and no sane person that was not incredibly wealthy would accept it. You have been tricked by anti-capitalist propaganda.

I am specifically trying to correct the ignorant view that you professed.

Capitalism works and works better than communism. It only does so because of the free market that prevents the abuses that you think are part of capitalism. They are not.

If capitalism worked the way you think it did, there would be no non-profit organizations. There would be no charity. There would be no Medicare, Medicaid.

There would also be mercenary armies rather than a National military. There would be security guards instead of police. There would be private federal prisons rather than federal prisons (Note, in the US there are private state prisons, but no private federal ones).

Capitalism is often maligned by people that hate it - usually while they claim to be capitalists.

The fact they had to make those rules is proof they USED to do it, and ALSO means the culture that created those rules still exist. Hoesik was/is a SYMPTOM of the problem, not the problem by itself.

Your description of the women is also true of 90% of western cultures. Women in the US, Europe, Australia are also forced to choose. But these other countries do NOT have anywhere near as bad a problem with population. As such it is incredibly foolish to believe it is the real cause.

You listed contributory factors not the most significant cause.

My definition of an AI is one that initiates rather than responds. There is a huge difference between being asked to do X and then going on to do a whole bunch of steps to achieve X and deciding to do X without any input designed to trigger X.

The issue is their monetization strategy - total information based advertising. It requires maximum 'engangement' and maximum coverage.

If you outlaw that system, then they will stop being so very very evil.

Set it up so they can charge a monthly fee and are forbidden from engaging in any advertising more targeted than by location or saving any information except related to their monthly payments. They could still put up ads, just not let people purchase ads for pregnant women under the age of 20.

This will force them to treat their users as customers rather than the product. Suddenly their behavior would change from pushing conspiracies to pushing and helping pedophiles to instead being respectable social media companies (which do not exist today).

The current corporations will either die or totally change.

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This was freakin' genius. Not only did they hide a secret communication system inside a military radio system, but there is more. The US graciously 'gave' permission for civilian use of the previously military only technology, allowing it to be spread throughout the world.

This way their agents could openly use the 'civilian' equipment to receive encrypted military information.

There is some genius American out there that for decades has been unable to brag. Maybe they can give him a medal now.

Texans love to brag about how Californians and others keep moving to their state. They do not seem to understand that it is because their BOSS wants to move to Texas and they are moving for the job, not because they like Texas.

Then they get upset when the new citizens of Texas are all liberal and vote that way.

It does not matter if China or the US or Timbuctoo does this first. The world is fucked whoever gets there.

I would trust my American Overlords over the Chinese overlords ANY day of the week....

Most just want money....and that's the goal they will work for no matter what the perceived consequences might be.

And "might be" is the key phrase here.

I mean, unless a humanoid cyborg from the future comes to MY house, cuts and peels his arm skin away to show me the endo skeleton and maybe the chip in his head..I'm not going to believe "maybe" could happen and sacrifice my research and livelihood.

I don't "lighten up" when small minded people are talking about decreasing my quality of life for their selfish benefit. I look down on them, as is appropriate. You're a small little man, and you're also just not funny.

I've lived MANY MANY years before all the environmental crap has been thrown out there...and my quality of life has not suffered one iota due to it.

I think that's impossible for internal combustion engines. They can't meet the emission control standards without intricate computer engine controls.

Fuck the emissions control standards..hell, we're already rolling them back in the US.

They weren't realistic anyway....let users have a choice.

I lived all those years before we had them and feel no ill effects nor is my life any poorer for the experience.