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Satya Nadella Says DeepSeek Is the New Bar For Microsoft's AI Success (theverge.com) 14

Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella has told employees that DeepSeek's R1 AI model has set "the new bar" for his company's AI ambitions, citing the startup's ability to reach the top of app store rankings. "What's most impressive about DeepSeek is that it's a great reminder of what 200 people can do when they come together with one thought and one play," The Verge cited Nadella as saying.

"Most importantly, not just leaving it there as a research project or an open source project, but to turn it into a product that was number one in the App Store. That's the new bar to me," he added. Microsoft quickly deployed DeepSeek's R1 on its Azure platform in January. The AI model gained recognition for its optimization below Nvidia's CUDA layer, enabling greater efficiency.

Satya Nadella Says DeepSeek Is the New Bar For Microsoft's AI Success

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  • What it will likely amount to: More Spying Bloatware.
    • What it will likely amount to: More Spying Bloatware.

      right? isn't china monitoring the queries? surprised nadella would use that as an example. i guess he could be referring to how it came out of nowhere and was all of a sudden an LLM player.

      • by SeaFox ( 739806 )

        right? isn't china monitoring the queries? surprised nadella would use that as an example.

        I would think he sees value in DeepSeek's work due to how efficiently it is on resources. AI has shown to be a huge power drain so a way to do the work on less juice would be a cost savings to an operator, but it seems his admiration is more PHB than that:

        "What's most impressive about DeepSeek is that it's a great reminder of what 200 people can do when they come together with one thought and one play," The Verge cited Nadella as saying.

        He's just another bean-counter chasing the "fewer employee salaries for

      • If you load the model on your own gear they aren't monitoring anything.

  • I don't think anyone would put that on the resume, considering how much this boondoggle cost.
  • by Torodung ( 31985 ) on Thursday March 27, 2025 @03:23PM (#65263431) Journal

    Open letter to Mr. Nadella, also known as "screaming at the wind."

    Please realize that Ballmer's long reliance on stacked ranking and your own downsizing of QA has left you incapable of competing with the Chinese. IOW, you inherited a near fatal case of brain drain. Your software tends to be broken and stay that way, as you cast about for new features and angles to refresh your commodity level stuff that can only become more broken by such attempts. This is not your core business.

    That kind of innovation/intelligence capital takes decades to restore, if you can manage it at all. You've had one decade already. I don't think it's returned.

    You inherited a dumpster fire, sir. You cannot compete with and achieve this benchmark. Your company is in no position to innovate. Not without paying a bunch of talented people a lot more than your stockholders are willing to part with. They probably want you to replace your current employees with the broken AI that you know needs improvement, if not a complete rewrite.

    You lost. Microsoft is no longer that sort of company, if it ever was. It's commodity software that leverages monopoly to do anti-consumer things, like drive people to Edge and Bing, as it always has been. If you want to keep up with AI, engage your golden parachute and go run a start-up.

    IMO, you can't do it from where you are.

    The lip service may stabilize your stakeholder's faith in Microsoft however, so you're smart as always, sir.

    • If you want to keep up with AI, engage your golden parachute and go run a start-up.

      Ten years ago or more I would send Microsoft Help suggestions like: Have you tried herding goats? Programming is not your thing. So yes, He's adept at getting his tongue really up in there when kissing the board/shareholder ass. The rest of us just run the other way if we see old shitty breath coming our way. I think we used to call them toadies.

      I just don't use their stuff anymore, and at least I feel better.

    • Good response. Same reason why Oracle, SAP, Salesforce and every other bigass

  • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Thursday March 27, 2025 @05:10PM (#65263647)
    So Microsoft's actual competitor here is still chat GTP and open AI but boosting deep seek here is going to make people think twice about that. That in turn would hurt their primary competitor. This kind of nasty little shenanigans is what makes Microsoft Microsoft and it's, well I don't want to say it's good to see but it is a bit surprising that this kind of nastiness didn't go away with Bill Gates
  • You going to do that after you pull your face out of the mud, or you just gonna leave it there? go ahead microsoft get cozy with the chinese and see what happens

    failure to anticipate the obvious seems to be the modus operandi round there anyway

  • It looks like he has absolutely no idea what to do with AI. Fix his broken search engine? Apparently doesn't work that well. Improve Office? Apart from lateral functions, doesn't work that well either. That's a problem because AI is burning more and more money every day.

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