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Intel To Produce Taiwanese Company MediaTek's Chips (reuters.com) 25

U.S. chipmaker Intel said on Monday it will produce chips for Taiwan's MediaTek, one of the world's largest chip design firms. From a report: The manufacturing arrangement is one of the most significant deals Intel has announced since it launched its so-called foundry business early last year.
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Intel To Produce Taiwanese Company MediaTek's Chips

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  • ...since it launched its so-called foundry business early last year

    It's not really a foundry business then? They're only pretending?

    Journalism at its finest.

    • Re:So-called (Score:5, Insightful)

      by jenningsthecat ( 1525947 ) on Monday July 25, 2022 @10:42AM (#62731938)

      ...since it launched its so-called foundry business early last year

      It's not really a foundry business then? They're only pretending?

      Journalism at its finest.

      Came to say exactly that, thinking that maybe even the editors are trolling us now. But then I glanced at TFA and read: "TechInsights’ chip economist Dan Hutcheson said there were doubts in the industry on whether Intel could pull off the foundry business, but the deal with MediaTek shows it’s on the right path...". I think the pejorative phrase "so-called" was off-base, but I can see where it came from.

      As an aside, I'm kinda surprised there were "doubts in the industry". Bringing foundries online in North America is probably an uphill battle. But with the trend toward de-globalization, and the need to be less vulnerable to supply-chain disruptions, it's going to happen sooner or later. Given Intel's history and deep pockets, I would bet on them succeeding.

      • But even the "launched ... early last year" part is BS. For example, Intel Foundry was producing chips for Altera as early as 2013 before Intel bought Altera in 2015.

    • Consider this:

      https://www.hpcwire.com/2021/0... [hpcwire.com]

      Intel’s Foundry Service (IFS) business, launched in March, has its first publicly named customers: AWS and Qualcomm. AWS is the first customer to use IFS packaging solutions, while Qualcomm will be a partner on the future 20A process technology. “Both Intel and Qualcomm believe strongly in the advanced development of mobile compute platforms, and ushering in a new era in semiconductors,” said Gelsinger.

      The CEO added that Intel has over 100 cus

    • What would be a better term?

      The literal German translation has the same sarcastic connotation that you're implying here but is also often used as "what they call".

      I.e." since it launched its what they call "foundry business" "

      Would this be a better wording? Or is there shorter version without the sarcastic subtext?

  • Yes please send us the plans for your chips so that we can steal the technology instead of the other way around.

    • Mediatek SoCs are mostly reference ARM designs with (maybe) some AMD graphics IP. What exactly is Intel going to steal?

    • MediaTek SoCs are generally underperforming crap. Trust me thereâ(TM)s nothing there worth stealing. To be honest I see this as ultimately hurting Intelâ(TM)s fabâ(TM)s reputation if anything
      • For fucks sake Slashdot fix your punctuation handling you lazy shits its 2022
        • The punctuation is fine.

          It's Apple that's broken, not the site.

          • No it's actually the site's backend making an assumption about the code page used. Other sites work fine when posting content with 's and `s from Apple browsers because they don't make this assumption
            • Nope. No "code page" has the characters that Apple sends.

              You can fix it by going to: Settings > General > Keyboard > Smart Punctuation.

              • Ok, internet person. As a web developer this isn't an issue I encounter or get paid a decent salary to fix *regularly* or anything. It's not like it's an issue I literally fixed yesterday in an older Rails 3 application when importing CSV from another system. But you clearly know what you're talking about so you win.
  • by Gravis Zero ( 934156 ) on Monday July 25, 2022 @09:40AM (#62731662)

    I certainly hope this enables groups like the FSF throw a wrench in their chip production since MediaTek violates the GPL on a regular basis. Frankly, I'm disappointed that they haven't taken steps to prevent the sale of phones that contain GPL violating software.

    • I certainly hope this enables groups like the FSF throw a wrench in their chip production since MediaTek violates the GPL on a regular basis. Frankly, I'm disappointed that they haven't taken steps to prevent the sale of phones that contain GPL violating software.

      They could sue them for damages for the license violation, but there's absolutely nothing they could do to stop production of the chips.

      • They could sue them for damages for the license violation, but there's absolutely nothing they could do to stop production of the chips.

        If it's just the FSF, then yeah. However, if an AG got involved and charged them with a crime (e.g. conspiracy to defraud) then it could be possible to get an injunction that would halt their chip production.

  • So now (the Republic of) China is outsourcing to USA?

  • by DrMrLordX ( 559371 ) on Monday July 25, 2022 @12:06PM (#62732186)

    Mediatek isn't going to be producing any of their Dimensity SoCs on a process like "Intel 16". "Intel 16" is likely a rebrand (or modified rebrand) of Intel 22FFL:

    https://fuse.wikichip.org/news... [wikichip.org]

    (note that Intel rebranded a bunch of nodes not too long ago: 10ESF -> Intel 7, 7nm -> Intel 4, 5nm -> Intel 3)

    22FFL was introduced for ISF/Foundry 1.0 customers back in 2017.

    In any case, it's an old node intended for low power stuff. Not really a huge foundry win. But it does give them a scant bit of credibility with those who read headlines without really understanding them, like politicians in Washington. If Intel is going to bill itself as a foundry business with its hand out for CHIPs money, they must keep up appearances.

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