Too Much Hyper, Not Enough Fighting 59
Jason Booth takes a look at the recently released Street Fighter II: Hyper Fighting, on Xbox Live. A highly anticipated title, Mr. Booth lays out why Capcom has fallen short of the high expectations gamers had for the title. From the article: "Now, where the game really falls down is online. It's bad enough playing SF2 on the 360 controller, but with lag it's nearly impossible. The funny thing is, the lag really isn't that bad from a technical standpoint. Most matches feel as if I'm getting a reasonable ping time and response. But SF2 turbo is a fast game, and at that speed, you just can't play, and can't compensate enough for the lag. If you press an attack button while leaving the ground on a jump, it'll probably go off as its landing."
street fighter 2 many (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:street fighter 2 many (Score:2, Funny)
Re:street fighter 2 many (Score:3, Insightful)
Likewise, Super Mario Bros. 1 too many? (Score:3, Informative)
For the same reason Nintendo re-releases the original Super Mario Bros. on the Super NES (as Super Mario All-Stars), on the Game Boy Color (Super Mario Bros. Deluxe) and on the forthcoming Wii Virtual Console. This product from Capcom is a port of Street Fighter II Turbo, as seen on the Super NES and Sega Genesis (the latter under the name Street Fighter II Special Championship Edition).
Re:Likewise, Super Mario Bros. 1 too many? (Score:1, Informative)
Turbo == Hyper Fighting (Score:2)
The title screen of the copy of Street Fighter II Turbo for Super NES that I rented said "Hyper Fighting" where the original said "The World Warrior". Wikipedia backs me up [wikipedia.org]. Perhaps you're thinking of the fact that the word Turbo was left out of the arcade game's title in some markets.
Re:Turbo == Hyper Fighting (Score:3, Interesting)
That's because SFII:Turbo -was- Hyper Fighting:
KLOV Link [klov.com]
SFII (the original, where only one person could use one character) was "The World Warrior"
then came Champion Edition where 2 people could use the same person, then came S
Ya but it's worse than you thought (Score:5, Informative)
I think he's just genreally giving Capcom shit for their odd naming scheme.
Re:street fighter 2 many (Score:1, Informative)
SF2 World Warrior
SF2 Championship Edition
SF2 Hyper Fighting
Super SF2
Super SF2 Turbo
There was a Street Fighter 3 that was, in my opinion, quite nice. The animation was extremely impressive, and the game felt prety solid overall.
Re:street fighter 2 many (Score:1)
It was
Street Fighter
Street Fighter II
Street Fighter II Champion Edition
Street Fighter II Turbo
Super Street Fighter II
Super Street Fighter II Turbo
Street Fighter Alpha
Street Fighter Alpha 2
Street Fighter Alpha 3
I'm going to stop there because the Street Fighter III series never held my interest.
LK
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I suppose they continue to make them because we continue to buy them. There has been Street Fighter 3 and the Alpha series.
Re:street fighter 2 many (Score:2)
Well they also -could- have gone with SFIII, but that game was terrible, and SFII: The New Warriors didn't really add anything... IMO SFII: Hyper Fighting was probably the most balanced version of the game. That's probably why they're using II instead of any of the newer versions of the game... that and it's probably a much smaller game, so it'd be more suitable for their online arcade or whatever...
Re:street fighter 2 many (Score:5, Informative)
You're right, though, they did pretty much try to milk the II for all it was worth, which it looks like that was the best play, because everything -after- SFII just plain sucked.
Legacy
1. Street Fighter
2. Street Fighter II - The World Warrior
3. Street Fighter II' - Champion Edition
4. Street Fighter II' Turbo* - Hyper Fighting
5. Super Street Fighter II - The New Challengers
6. Super Street Fighter II Turbo
7. Street Fighter: The Movie
8. Street Fighter Alpha: Warriors' Dreams
9. Street Fighter EX
10. Street Fighter EX Plus
11. Street Fighter Alpha 2
12. Street Fighter EX 2
13. Street Fighter III: New Generation
14. Street Fighter III 2nd Impact - Giant Attack
15. Street Fighter Alpha 3
16. Street Fighter III 3rd Strike - Fight For The Future
* Turbo added by me, looks like KLOV was missing that part, but I have the machine, and it does in fact call it SFII Turbo: Hyper Fighting.
Street Fighter 2 EX PLUS HYPER ALPHA FIGHTING!1! (Score:2, Funny)
And might as well add X-Men Vs. Street Fighter and Street Fighter 2097 for NES if you want to be really complete about it (that and tons of Alpha compilations
Re:Street Fighter 2 EX PLUS HYPER ALPHA FIGHTING!1 (Score:2)
Re:Street Fighter 2 EX PLUS HYPER ALPHA FIGHTING!1 (Score:1)
And EX3 doesn't since it was never released for the Arcade, though at this point, I think it's splitting hairs.
Re:street fighter 2 many (Score:2)
Re:street fighter 2 many (Score:2)
Heh, each to their own. I think the Street Fighter Alpha games are awesome, and I still play (by emulation) SFA3 several times a day. It's bloody addictive.
What I'm more interested in is why they're releasing a game that was also released on the ***SNES*** for the Xbox. I didn't think they did that kind of thing. It will be Donkey Kong next.
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There in lies the problem (Score:3, Informative)
Re:There in lies the problem (Score:2, Insightful)
A centralized server does make a lot of sense when the game has more than two players though, since all the server processing can be down by the server box which leaves
Re:There in lies the problem (Score:1)
SFIIHF Is Good (Score:5, Interesting)
The arcade game is perfect. It plays at the same speed as Hyper Fighting. The controls were very responsive when I used the analog stick. You can set the buttons anyway you like. I think negative reviews on the controller are based on personal preference. You may find some characters easier with the D-Pad, and some easier to control with the analog.
Live Arcade has been receiving way too much non-constructive negative feedback. It really seems like a bashing! Just remember, this is an 80s game!
Re:SFIIHF Is Good (Score:2, Informative)
Re:SFIIHF Is Good (Score:1)
Re:SFIIHF Is Good (Score:5, Funny)
An 80s game... that was first released in 1991?
I'm shouryuken find a better way to describe the game's vintage than that.
Re:SFIIHF Is Good (Score:1)
The original SF did appear in 87, but Hyper fighting is literally I, II, IICh, editions away.
Re:SFIIHF Is Good (Score:1)
Let me sum up the review... (Score:5, Funny)
-Eric
Re:Let me sum up the review... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Let me sum up the review... (Score:2)
I mean, if the game's doing the best it possibly can to compensate for lag, then without re-wiring the entire Internet, it's a little stupid to hold that against it when you're reviewing it.
Re:Let me sum up the review... (Score:2)
Maybe if you played Street Fighter... Street Fighter II is from the nineties.
Re:Let me sum up the review... (Score:1)
It isn't perfect mind you, but they did an excellent job all things considered.
Re:Let me sum up the review... (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Let me sum up the review... (Score:3, Interesting)
We've nitpicked versions of Street Fighter 2 Turbo (or Hyper Fighting, or Turbo Hyper Fighting, or whatever you want to call it) in the past... comparing Turbo Duo / SNES / Genesis revs with the arcade, pads vs sticks, etc. This minutiae tuning is exactly the sort of thing he lives for in the g
I can't imagine playing this (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Not worth the money (Score:2)
On my side of the hedge... (Score:1)
I had a great time. My only complaint was joining a custom match because by the time the results hit the screen, the player was usually unavailable (i.e. started a match). I just wanted to chime in and say that the lag is subjective,
Re:On my side of the hedge... (Score:1)
Re:On my side of the hedge... (Score:1)
To all who say there is no lag (Score:1)
Re:To all who say there is no lag (Score:2)
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Re:Memories of SNES, not Arcade (Score:1)
I think the Genesis version was WAY better (for starters, it kept the arcade versions title screen AND the music sounded much more like the arcade)
Re:Memories of SNES, not Arcade (Score:2)
I remember as a youngster queueing up(!) for the SNES version. I rememeber you also couldn't rent it, because there would be people waiting at the video store for it.
It wasn't bad for a rendition of an arcade game at the time, but it was nowhere near the arcade versions. The sprites were smaller and less detailed, and it generally lacked the all around experience of the arcade.
Not that I didn't play the hell out of it...
Re:Memories of SNES, not Arcade (Score:2)
SNES had superior hardware but the two systems were very popular and developers really knew how to squeeze every drop out of them.
Booth and SF2 (Score:3, Funny)
Ping!? (Score:2)
PING TIME AND RESPONSE????
You people seriously need to get off the computers once in a while and stop mixing your words around like you know something.