Managed ASP Web Hosts? 79
maumedia asks: "I'm hoping someone can help me here, as I'm nearing frantic on this issue. I need a good Windows/ASP managed host -- a company that will manage/troubleshoot a dedicated server for us. My research has turned up either shared hosts, or dedicated hosts, and not very much in-between. If we're not ready to hire a sysadmin and pay for our own backbone, but we've outgrown the massively-shared hosting system, where can we go? I'm really hoping for an answer that doesn't involve a move to PHP/Linux, as it makes much more sense to us to utilize the resources we have at hand."
ASP on Linux (Score:4, Informative)
Re:ASP on Linux (Score:3, Informative)
Really though, you should migrate
Re:ASP on Linux (Score:3, Informative)
That's not entirely true, mod_mono can do atleast some ASP.NET stuff on Linux. It may not run everything, but you're not totally SOL, especially if you can tweak the ASP.NET code to make it run on Mono.
Re:ASP on Linux (Score:1, Flamebait)
Mono is still alpha depending on which libraries you use. Does it even support winforms yet?
C#.net is a great technology. Especially if your an MS shop that needs MS integration with win32 apps for your intranet servers.
But cross platform it is not and its a MS technology just like win32 is, tho
Re:ASP on Linux (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:ASP on Linux (Score:3, Insightful)
You just did. It wouldn't hurt to do a little Google research, as most of the things you say are so untrue that I'd mod you -1 Flamebait/Astroturf if I had the points.
Yes. [mono-project.com]
Most of the 1.0 code is complete. [mono-project.com] 2.0 isn't complete, but what's implemented should work. [mono-project.com]
Daemon Tools (Score:1, Offtopic)
I'm not surprised that Daemon-Tools doesn't work though on Wine give
Re:ASP on Linux (Score:2)
Not to denigrate what was otherwise a magnificent rant, but it could also mean that a 100% of the people get their applications to work 99% of the time, the 1% constituting what is technically known as an "intolerable pain in the ass".
WINE is supririsingly good. But until vendors star
Re:ASP on Linux (Score:2)
This is true. It's also possible that 99% is good enough. It depends what your business is, but let's say you can do everything in Office but save a Word doc as HTML. Fine, you're on Linux already anyway -- have Beagle or a Cron job run a WordML-to-XSLT converter. Or have it done when you upload it.
Even without programming, I've
Re:ASP on Linux (Score:2)
Dont drink the koolaid. C# is an excellent language but I would not bet my job on a cross platform web site with it. For that I would use java or php. ASP.Net is a great Windows based solution and I have not seen one single application that is available for Windows and Unix written from teh same codebase in
Re:ASP on Linux (Score:2)
Citation, please? Oh, and how long ago was he at Transmeta? Wine has been getting much better lately (past year or two), and so has OpenOffice.
And I'd use mod_perl or mod_python. Point is, i
Re:ASP on Linux (Score:1)
Brinkster seems amateurish. (Score:2)
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I'm confused! (Score:3, Informative)
Stay away from godaddy.com (Score:3, Insightful)
Go lookup last week's (or 2 weeks ago news) under the spam section here on slashdot? Godaddy has done some unethical things with leaving their sendmail relay's open and then closing your account and hijacking your domain for punishment for spamming even though someone else spammed by using their open relay under your domain name. Sleezy and could be expensive for several days of downtime while your legal team faxes threatening documents until your domain name is released back.
Even if you own your do
Recommendations here are important for everyone. (Score:2)
Yes, it's probably time to get away from GoDaddy [slashdot.org]. People are reporting a lot of different areas [slashdot.org] of abuse.
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Re:I'm confused! (Score:2)
If I were submitter, I'd be asking the host they are with now if they can supply a dedicated server and do all the management on it, at what cost.
Good Luck (Score:2)
Honestly, I can also say that it is not going to g
Re:Good Luck (Score:2)
Um, 30% of the market is still an astronomical amount of webhosting. And most of that 70% is geared toward extremely basic static pages because it's so cheap to host basic stuff on a free platform. On the other hand, I'd be willing to bet that a larger chunk of the 30% is geared toward production ASP/ASP.Net hosting for the same reason.
Re:Good Luck (Score:2)
Any web server can handle a parked domain that gets no traffic.
Besides lets not forget the last time Microsoft made a big push with IIS; tons of people switched then too and they actually had 35% of the market. Thats when people realized that their servers couldn't handle the load and
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Re:Good Luck (Score:2)
Meausre yourself. Apache doesn't have the same overhead. Use the exact same computer and install IIS on Windows. Do the same with Apache on Linux. Optimize them both as much as you want; for Linux, run without Xwindows and shut down all other unecessary services. Now see which handles 1000 concurrent requests better. You will find that the Apache webserver can run using
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1. you say #1 is a fake when it was patched before a exploit was published? If you say so. After all you know the inner workings of Microsofts patches better than security experts.
2. In link #2, They specifically explain where those explots affects IIS6. Feel free to read and follow links. You can read can't you? I'm beginning to doubt it.
3. Link #3 again specifically states IIS6. Again, you ability to read is lacking.
4. Bringing up IIS5 is important because peo
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In the face of overwhelming evidence, denial is still the default state. One must admire you ability to equate fact with zealotry. I salute you sir and the fantasy world in which you live.
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Someone get this man a cup of coffee! I think he's regaining conciousness.
And from that webpage...
The Secunia database currently contains 0 Secunia advisories marked as "Unpatched", which affects Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 6.
Recognize the word 'unpatched'? Notice that it does not say 'h
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Re:Good Luck (Score:2)
And when I pointed them out, you casually dismissed them. Even though they WERE vulnerabilities, some of which were critical and ALL of which had an effect on IIS.
But that didn't count cause I stepped over the line and it was a Tuesday and you had your fingers crossed... right?
Re:Good Luck (Score:2)
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Although I think they should try to get away from ASP. That's super old technology. It has many problems that will help them in the future when they want to expand their business.
I don't know if you can say, without knowing more, whether ASP is inadequate for their use. A healthy, well-designed ASP app can
Re:Good Luck (Score:2)
So the geeks are usually told what to use and to do it. Also believe it or not an MS solution can be the appropriate one. It can integrate with access and w2k domain logins nice.
Re:Good Luck (Score:2)
Re:Good Luck (Score:1, Flamebait)
Apache is 0% of the market. IE, Firefox, and their peers are. When you sell webhosting you aren't selling a product -- you're selling space on mall, and virtually no one cares if you use FedEx or UPS to get your books to your store, so long as they're in English (HTML) when they get them.
In contrast, if you write for Linux, you CANNOT just give your app to Windows users and have them get as much out of it as Linux users. (While if you write
Re:Good Luck (Score:2)
When a company wants to deliver that 'packet' (excuse the pun), the want a delivery method that is reliable, sturdy, inexpensive and a carrier that can handle the load of packages that they send on a daily basis. This decision is made by the business owner sending those packets... not the end user.
To the end user, this is all
Re:Good Luck (Score:2)
Reliability and Usability are not the same thing--and neither is market share. Apache has the size of the market it does because, more than other resons, the cost of an Apache box is hardware + setup, not hardware + setup + software fees. (And the fee to get anything as good as Apache is well more than the cost to pay someone to setup Apache.)
If there were NO reasons to choose IIS over Apache, we wouldn't be having this disc
Re:Good Luck (Score:2)
So immediately you say reliability and market share don't matter? Well maybe if I didn't own a business or wasn't a government agency and reliability of my data from a known market leader didn't matter, then yes... those two wouldn't really matter. If all I worried about was sharing pictures of my family with others members of my family then yes. You are 100% correct. If having a website that only got hit by 5 friends, then yes. r
Re:Good Luck (Score:2)
no. Please go back to grade school, and spend some time on reading comprehension.
The current version of IIS (6) is far better than the previous version (5) when it comes to just about everything. And while there are probably still a few holes here and there, the same is true of an Apache-based LAMP setup. Is IIS better than Apache, when it comes to serving static HTML or PHP? No, not at all. Is IIS more expensive, if you count the OS cost
Re:Good Luck (Score:2)
And sure, I think that there is a market for all web servers. I know of one still being sold using 'server side javascript' (no joke). But when you get something for free, that has bette
Re:Good Luck (Score:2)
The bookstore manager cares. And the customers start caring if the bookstore rises its prices to cover the inefficiency of the delivery method, or if the store is closed every now and then because the deliveries couldn'
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A few choices.. (Score:1)
A better choice might be a local "solutions" company. They might not have backup generators, or n+1 AC units, but there are plenty of places better then your closet.. If your in a city with, say, >500,000 people then you have at least a couple of consulting shops who would do hosting. Their "management" might b
well... to be obvious... (Score:2)
That said, i've encountered data centers that have system administration services for an additional cost. I would suggest you start by talking to your data center and see if they offer this service or if they know of contacts you can talk to. If they don't do it, the
Re:well... to be obvious... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:well... to be obvious... (Score:2)
Yes. And using an outside agency to find, interview, and recruit said person is going to cost you more, just once, than a whole year of co-lo hosting of a box and some periodic rent-a-brain time from a pro.
Headhunters (Score:2)
Actually, there are lots of companies, small and large, that do just this. The proper term is usually "recruitment and placement firms," but most people just call them "headhunters." Basically you find one that specializes in your business area (technology, education, whatever) and explain to them the kind of person you
Meta-Obvious (Score:1)
Isn't that what a hosting provider is? Don't the companies that offer shared, dedicated or managed servers "admin" them?
That might beg the question of what specifically a sys admin does, but that goes beyond the scope of this thread, maybe. Or maybe the answer to that would help define "managed" host.
Rackspace (Score:3, Informative)
Maybe (Score:2)
Rackspace (Score:2, Insightful)
I would definitely recommend Rackspace. As part of my job I have dealt with them for several setups for both our own projects and projects. They're not kidding when they say that they have fanatical support, they've always been super responsive, given clear warnings about anything going on that might effect our service, and have proven extremely knowledgable. In addition to maintaining your server they are also very good at helping you grow and scale your enviroment as you need.
Rackspace is definitely
I've used (Score:2)
INetU (Score:2)
I am seeing red lights, alarms, sirens, the WORKS! (Score:2)
Two, (Wait, I just thought of one. 1and1 [1and1.com] is where I get my LAMP hosting, but reciently they have been doing Win2003 hosting.) ASP is not the industry standard, so seriously consider porting your code to work with ASP-on-linux or even better Perl or PHP on GNU+Linux. It will save you a lot of time in the end.
Seriously.
Re:I am seeing red lights, alarms, sirens, the WOR (Score:2)
In my experience their support has been awful, even when the problem is their fault. I had a situation where they refused to place a bad hard drive (DMA suddenly stopped working), and finally had to move to a new host.
Re:I am seeing red lights, alarms, sirens, the WOR (Score:2)
They completely lost one of my colocated servers, and pretty much told me to go screw myself in the process.
Then, had the audacity to send my account to collections because I didn't pay for the month of service that I didn't use.
check out webhostingtalk (Score:4, Informative)
Re:check out webhostingtalk (Score:2)
Ignore most of the uninformed comments on
Me (Score:1)
Cheap and reliable. They do Linux/php and Windows/asp.
Maybe Mosso? (Score:2)
MaximumASP (Score:2)
Servermatrix (Score:1)
AdHost! (Score:1)
Colocation - CyrusOne (Score:1)
They have both Windows and *nix professionals on hand 24x7x365 and there's various levels of 'management'.
I hope this helps.
good dedicated hosting site (Score:1)