Nintendo Revolution Renamed 'Wii' 966
Retroneous writes "The Nintendo Revolution has had its name changed to the Nintendo Wii." Confirmation on the official Revolution site. Update: 04/27 16:32 GMT by Z : More information available from a Gamasutra article: "New details on the disc format have also been revealed: 'Instead of a tray, a single, innovative, self-loading media bay will play both 12-centimeter optical discs used for the new system as well as Nintendo GameCube discs. Owners will have the option of equipping a small, self-contained attachment to play movies and other DVD content.'"
Oh Good Lord (Score:3, Insightful)
Oh no. (Score:1, Insightful)
You've been building hype. New downloading. Twenty years of backwards compatibility. Brand new interface. Small. Sleek.
This is one gigantic step backwards. One, huge, gigantic step backwards.
I could go on a rant about this for a few paragraphs, but I'm too dismayed. Instead, I think I can some up everything I'm thinking in one sentence:
This is going to be known, gargonly, in America as "Nintendo Piss".
Fucking dammit.
This name is..... interesting (Score:2, Insightful)
Japanese name only? (Score:3, Insightful)
Of course, back then, those systems were released in Japan first and the original Japanese names were never used as part of the marketing campaign in other parts of the world.
Re:The question now is... (Score:4, Insightful)
If we can keep the "Revolution" moniker alive and well in gaming circles and sites, and only refer to the "Wii" name when talking about the name itself, we might be able to convince Nintendo that this was a stupid fucking idea.
Of course, names can be changed before actual release.
Ultra 64, anyone?
This still pisses me off, though. Even "Nintendo GO" was better than this.
Re:April 1st was 26 days ago (Score:4, Insightful)
However, I've commented on Nintendo's decade-old talent for self-destruction before, so it's entirely plausible that this is, in fact, nothing more than a really good example of them shooting themselves square in the foot again.
That Said (Score:3, Insightful)
Actual reaction will doubtlessly be in between.
I think people have the wrong idea.. (Score:3, Insightful)
They clearly state that they intend to bring the video game system from "gamers" to "everyone else." "Everyone else" doesn't want an "X-Box" or a "Playstation" or a "Revolution" or a "Super Whiz-Bang Toy 2010." They want something simple, sophisticated, intuitive, and a little artsy. "Wii" fits the bill for that type of goal.
I don't think the name is going to appeal to the gamer sect at all, but then again the gamer sect doesn't really give a shit about the name - they care about how cool the games are.
Actually the gamers would probably buy any console if it said "Bad Ass Motherfucker" on it, but, barring that...
.... all the way home. (Score:1, Insightful)
Think about some of the DS titles that have gotten major attention. Brain Teaser and Nintendogs?! Guys don't admit to playing them but women are snapping them up like crazy. This name is aimed squarely over our heads at at the remaining 90% of the market that don't call themselves gamers.
Is the name kind of ghey. Yup. Especially compared to Revolution. Is this a potentially brilliant marketing move, probably. Are all of you who wanted a "Revolution" still going to buy one anyways. Yes, you just won't tell your friends about it quite yet.
Re:April 1st was 26 days ago (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:And one Xbox to rule them all.... (Score:5, Insightful)
Nintendo while not number one has been having constent profit, and has had one quarter in company history that was not profitable. This was causing by the extra investments and the USD taking a dive in value. But over 100 years of profit looks good.
Microsoft while a rich company does not have limitless funding. Shareholders will eventually get upset with all the money being pissed away. While it remains to be seen what happens this generation, I'd be extremely suprised if Microsoft killed off both Sony and Nintendo. Hell it will be surprising if the Xbox360 turns a profit 1/2 through it's life cycle.
Yeah! The Good News! (Score:5, Insightful)
Kudos to Nintendo for getting their stupidity out of their sytem early, and in a manner which won't affect the machines performance.
Re:Make it less useful, please. (Score:3, Insightful)
The list goes on and on.
Hilarious (Score:4, Insightful)
I have a feeling that it's not going to last. In Japan, maybe "Wii" doesn't sound ridiculous, but in English-speaking countries, it sounds stupid. I'm sure Nintendo of America is having a nice long talk with Nintendo of Japan right now.
Re:DVD "attachment" (Score:2, Insightful)
The XBox didn't play DVDs out of the box. By requiring an attachment to play DVDs, they shave a couple bucks off licensing fees required to play MPEG-2 files and whatever other licensing fees they would otherwise have to pay on ALL consoles when not ALL consumers will actually use the DVD viewing capability. As I more than likely won't use it as a DVD player, I'm happy to not have that extra cost passed down to me.
On another note... when I first saw the 'Wii' in the headline, I thought somebody had taken the 'f' out of 'wifi'...
Re:April 1st was 26 days ago (Score:3, Insightful)
Well, at least they didn't name it "Monday" [com.com].
Re:Oh no. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Why wii? Confusion with Wifi? (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Why wii? Confusion with Wifi? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Oh Good Lord (Score:5, Insightful)
Seems to me one of the problems with this name is that it's not immediately clear how to pronounce it from the way it is written.
Re:That Said (Score:5, Insightful)
I dispute this claim.
Re:April 1st was 26 days ago (Score:5, Insightful)
????
I fail to see how nintendo can be talented at self-destruction if they've been doing it for a decade.
I mean, I have no inherent abilities at self-destruction, but give me free reign at Nintendo & I'll run the company into the ground in less then a month.
Re:Oh no. (Score:5, Insightful)
Seriously though, if your buy/don't buy decision revolves around the name of the console (as opposed to the games, or even just shiney specs), then you're not the target audience. You don't broaden the game-buying audience by being all 1337, you instead make it approachable by people who are currently put off by exactly that kind of attitude.
If they were trying to be badass and edgy, they'd probably call it "Xbox" or something.
Why are you looking for validation of your masculinity in your video game purchases to begin with?
Okay, WTF (Score:3, Insightful)
I really, really hope I'm reading this wrong, but my understanding of this statement is that the Revolution will have an external DVD player?
No chip I just pop in the back to enable DVD functionality. No special remote to use DVD functionality. No, it's an entirely seperate unit that you plug into the Revoltuion.
Why the fuck even bother with that? You can get small-as-hell DVD players now for about $40 at your local Target (which will probably be cheaper than the Revolution add on.)
Did Nintendo just take one huge shit of bad ideas and release them all on one day, or did they take small shits progressively and just hold off on flushing them all?
Nintendo, you're working backwards! PLEASE STOP!
Re:First Pun! (Score:5, Insightful)
The same fucktards that want to make pirating games difficult without breaking the game or your system.
Re:"Touching is good...", "Wii-wii..." Oh My (Score:2, Insightful)
If you're buying video games to support your personal image, aside from being a lost cause, it suggests you're not all that interested in games to begin with.
Re:Oh Good Lord (Score:2, Insightful)
No, you think of urine because:
1) You already heard the cheap joke.
2) You don't like Nintendo.
Look deep into your heart and tell me that PS3 doesn't sound like "Piss 3."
Re:No DVD playback out of the box? Whee... (Score:2, Insightful)
http://wiiwiiwii.ytmnd.com/ (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:That Said (Score:3, Insightful)
I haven't seen a lot of people saying that. My perspective is that i bought a GameCube, i thought it was lots of fun, i didn't mind that it was a small purple cube with a handle. Lots of other people however made fun of it for being a small purple cube with a handle, they made jokes about lunchboxes, they said it was kiddie, they went out and bought an XBox or a PS2 instead. GameCube marketshare falls (or rather, fails to rise as much as it could) so less developers make games for the GameCube and my ability to play fun games on the GameCube is adversely affected. Likewise if Nintendo sticks with "Wii" i'm still going to buy a Wii, i expect it will be fun, but i expect a lot of other people will make fun of it and go buy a PS3 or an XBox 360 instead.
If it's fair to categorize people as sheep and non-sheep (i'm not going to get into that argument) then the non-sheep are not unaffected by the actions and attitudes of the sheep. That's why people who consider themselves to be non-sheep get so pissed off about the actions of people they consider to be sheep. If it didn't make a difference the non-sheep wouldn't care.
Re:N Wii (Score:5, Insightful)
Ennui (ennui): Listlessness and dissatisfaction resulting from lack of interest; boredom: "The servants relieved their ennui with gambling and gossip about their masters" (John Barth).
Hmmmmmm.
Petition? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Oh Good Lord (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Oh Good Lord (Score:3, Insightful)
And "Revolution" does why?
"Revolution" makes me think of guillotines and blood running down rain-soaked streets to chants of "Vive la France!"
Not video games.
Anyway, "Revolution" is a name that makes promises that it can't necessarily keep. It's a good code name, because it's hinting at what Nintendo *wants* to happen. But it's not a good product name because once it's on the market for a while, people are going to judge it by whether it's lived up to that name.
Names like PlayStation, GameCube, Xbox, etc. are better names because they don't make any promises beyond basically describing what their core function is. (The "Xbox" is so named because it ran on DirectX.) Same with names like "Nintendo Entertainment System" or "Atari Video Computer System". The best names just say what the system does and nothing more - it's the system itself that does the talking. And the names become iconic because of that - not because there was anything special about the name itself. Form follows function - that's as true with iconic names as anything else.
I'm definitely not sold on "Wii", just because it smacks of one of those outsource naming firms that companies hire to come up with "hip" and "cool" names with wacky spellings for common words. The problem with "wii" is that it leaves themselves open to derision - it's got a sound that we all know but a spelling that doesn't belong to any real word, so we're left to interpret it how we want. And part of that interpretation, for me, anyway, is that they're trying way too hard. That's even beyond the fact that all I can hear is Homer Simpson saying "wheeeeeeeeee!" whenever I see the logo. (I was going to suggest that it might have been fine if they'd just called it "We", but then I realized they'd get a whole bunch of "Entertainment for women" jokes.)
But they were right to give it a proper name other than the Revolution code-name. I just don't think they really picked the right one.
Re:Why wii? Confusion with Wifi? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Oh no. (Score:2, Insightful)
Yep, the GameCube is not a good first console. However, it's a great second console. If you already own a PS2, there's not much reason to buy an Xbox, or vice versa. However, the GameCube has its share of great, exclusive games, and it is low priced, which makes it a fantastic second console.
As for third-party support, Nintendo is not going to win by competing with Sony and Microsoft for games that are released for all three platforms. Where they will succeed with games that would only be possible on their new console. Look at the Nintendo DS for examples of that. Nintendogs. Brain Age. Nintendo is not looking for the "Which version of Burnout 3 should I buy?"market. They're looking for the "this game would not be possible on any other console" market.
Comment removed (Score:5, Insightful)
It's Because They are Japanese (Score:3, Insightful)
http://revolution.nintendo.com/ [nintendo.com]
It's like a goofy choice for english wording in the middle of japanese anime, except in the real world.
Re:Oh no. (Score:1, Insightful)
Don't forget that "Playstation" sounded like a little kiddy-toy that you put in front of a toddler that they banged wooden posts into; XBox sounded like a name someone came up with to sound cool.
All names suck
We forget how crappy iPod, Playstation and XBox were because our apprieciation of the product makes up for how crappy the name is.
External = Dongle. Drive is built in. (Score:1, Insightful)
As for the external bit, I'm sure it's just going to be a dongle that enables the DVD playback license, just like on the Xbox. The dongle probably plugs into the USB port or something (the fact the Rev-er, Wii has USB ports and flash card ports to me is incredibly awesome, by the way).