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KDE 3.2.0 Released 650

Quique writes "KDE 3.2 has just been released. The official announcement is available at the KDE site and the source tarballs are being replicated to the mirrors. There are already binary packages for a few distributions. Besides the usual bugfixes and new features, this release has been highly optimized and runs way faster than previous versions. This is a good opportunity for Windows users to migrate to a free desktop."
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KDE 3.2.0 Released

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  • yes! (Score:4, Funny)

    by SQLz ( 564901 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @09:04AM (#8167955) Homepage Journal
    Transparent kicker, how have I longed for you!!!
  • Fedora - RedHat ? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by SilverSun ( 114725 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @09:06AM (#8167963) Homepage
    KDE 3.2 is a real step forward. Well worth installing. If they only could provide easy access (apt/yum) to binary packages for RH9 or Fedora C1...

    Cheers
    • Re:Fedora - RedHat ? (Score:4, Informative)

      by marvin2k ( 685952 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @09:24AM (#8168057)
      You can get RH 7.3/8/9/Fedora packages here: http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net [sourceforge.net]
      The 3.2 release isn't available yet but I'm sure it will be soon. (I'm running the last beta right now)
    • Re:Fedora - RedHat ? (Score:5, Informative)

      by jergh ( 230325 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @09:28AM (#8168083)
      According to a posting [redhat.com] to fedora-list [redhat.com] you won't have to wait long:
      From: Than Ngo <than redhat com>
      Subject: Re: kde-3.2 released!
      Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 14:12:33 +0100

      KDE 3.2.0 for FC1 will be available on ftp.kde.org tomorrow ;-)
    • Re:Fedora - RedHat ? (Score:2, Interesting)

      by edbarrett ( 150317 )
      KDE runs on how many platforms now? It's not up to the KDE organization to make binary packages for RedHat whatever... That's what a distro is for. RedHat says "this set of packages work well together" and they haven't said that about KDE 3.2 yet. If you're going to complain to anyone, complain to RedHat.
    • Re:Fedora - RedHat ? (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      If they only could provide easy access (apt/yum) to binary packages for RH9 or Fedora C1

      That's the distro's job. The KDE project make it very clear [kde.org] they don't consider binary packages to be their job.

    • Re:Fedora - RedHat ? (Score:5, Informative)

      by ajs318 ( 655362 ) <sd_resp2@@@earthshod...co...uk> on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @10:16AM (#8168361)
      You want binary packages? You get them from a distributor. That's what distributors do. They take .tar.gz packages; they compile them, setting options in a way they consider sane; they package them up in a binary package; and they offer it for download.

      KDE just provide source packages, which will compile -- with perhaps a little tweaking -- on any setup which is computationally complete enough. Out of the goodness of their own hearts, they link to binary packages that other people have created; but the job of making it easy for non-programmers to install software falls to distributors. Think of it this way: the KDE developers are like farmers, growing basic food ingredients. Meat, milk, eggs, veg, grains. You can get really fresh ingredients from a farm, but you still have to prepare them before you can eat them. And that takes hard work. The distributors - Debian, Red Hat / Fedora, SUSE and so forth - are like chefs, taking those ingredients and preparing them in a ready-to-eat form. Sometimes that limits your options as a consumer; but nobody is stopping you buying fresh ingredients and preparing and cooking them your own way.

      If you really can't spell make you could just keep pestering your distributor to provide you with .rpm packages. But you'd do as well to just download the source tarballs and compile them yourself, taking notes as you go along. Distributors will take your requests much more seriously if you can show you've tried something. In my experience, source .tar.gz files are the way to install software; more reliable and more configurable. You could even -- shock, horror -- create your own binary package from the source you downloaded and compiled!
      • Remember KDE is a huge project and not everyone has the resources to compile such a beast.

        Its sort of like telling them to do 'make world' and laugh as their machine goes up in a puff of smoke..
  • Excuse me? (Score:5, Funny)

    by graveyardduckx ( 735761 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @09:06AM (#8167965)
    *Raises hand* Excuse me, when is it "not" a good time to switch from Windows?
    • by I confirm I'm not a ( 720413 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @09:24AM (#8168060) Journal

      Friday night:

      (a) Even geeks need a social life.

      (b) Best time to wreck your social life by trying to evangelise Linux ;)

      • Re:Excuse me? (Score:4, Interesting)

        by bluGill ( 862 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @10:45AM (#8168612)

        Oh come on. Geeks find friday night the perfect time for installing KDE 3.2. What else are you doing to do? Wine already runs mydoom[1], and if you are a true geek you don't have much else to do while waiting for the next interesting project.

        [1]Something a couple of us did at wineconf last weekend. grabed a copy of mydoom, put it on a linux machine and traced the run. Examined all the files is created/modified (mostly garbage), set the local machine to www.sci.com and watched is try a DOS attack on ourselves. (loopback is well able to keep up). Then we found the magic sequence that the port accepts. We didn't actually finish, dinner got in the way when I left, but we were close.

        That is what real geeks love to do in a socal setting.

    • When you work with VB apps and your boss thinks it saves him money by using a fully integrated platform only offered by one company. Shudder.
  • by mgebbers ( 252737 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @09:06AM (#8167968)
    check out this alternate free desktop [craigslist.org]
  • by plams ( 744927 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @09:06AM (#8167969) Homepage
    And I thought KDE tried to provide (among other things) familiarity for people with previous expirience with windoze.
  • by Anonymous Coward
  • Major release (Score:5, Informative)

    by Judas-Priest ( 637737 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @09:11AM (#8167987) Homepage
    I've been using the "unoficial" .deb's for a while now, and I gotta say that it really is a major release. Many bug fixes, faster than ever, I haven't seen kde running so smooth since kde1... Now since I had been using it on a teste machine, now all I have to do is wait for it to come in to debian sid to have it on all my desktops! Great job by a great team.
  • by itallushrt ( 148885 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @09:15AM (#8168008) Homepage
    Of course it is...I only spent the mandatory 2 days last week compiling 3.1.5.

    Well here we go again.
  • by armando_wall ( 714879 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @09:15AM (#8168010) Homepage

    I want KDE 3.2 in my system!

    However, I spent quite some time tweaking my KDE 3.1 settings, and right now it works flawlessly (at least, for my needs)... apparently, there's no need to upgrade.

    So, I don't know if I should compile/install KDE 3.2 myself, or wait until my distribution includes it in its next release (I'm using Slackware).

    What do you guys think?

    Any bug reports so far? (I know it's just released, but that's the wonder of Open Source.... many eyes!!!).

  • by MadX ( 99132 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @09:15AM (#8168015)
    I am really looking forward to Kontact [kde.org] - I think that this is a great addition to the KDE Desktop !!

    Great Job !!

  • Migrate (Score:5, Funny)

    by Rutje ( 606635 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @09:15AM (#8168016)
    "This is a good opportunity for Windows users to migrate to a free desktop."
    Again?? I believe last week there was a good opportunity too... had something to do with a virus.
    • Re:Migrate (Score:2, Insightful)

      by bfischer ( 648685 )
      Yes, but some people have a clue and though they may use windows, the virus did not affect them (anymore than to get unwanted, virus-laden messages).
  • by spectrokid ( 660550 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @09:16AM (#8168019) Homepage
    They gonna have to run these servers with X disabled I'm afraid...
  • Delay This Post ! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by danalien ( 545655 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @09:16AM (#8168021) Homepage
    *idiot's linking directly to the root source, moorons* and larger shame on CmdrTaco for not haveing common sense to check the mirrors aren't up to date yet ... see [kde.org]?

    so be kind, and delay it from the 'hords of slashdot' ... atleast for a few hours...

  • by timmarhy ( 659436 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @09:21AM (#8168049)
    I see a lot of foolish comments about not being able to do anything useful with a KDE desktop. the only thing you cannot do just as well with kde3.2 compared to winXP is play games. thats it people, nothing more no arguements accepted. so in the corperate areana windows can put it's head between it's knees and kiss it's ass goodbye
    • I see a lot of foolish comments about not being able to do anything useful with a KDE desktop. the only thing you cannot do just as well with kde3.2 compared to winXP is play games. thats it people, nothing more no arguements accepted. so in the corperate areana windows can put it's head between it's knees and kiss it's ass goodbye

      Finally, someone who knows what the hell is going on. There are ALOT of companies out there with thousands of employees who basically sit there are enter bits of data into a

    • Since 1998 (Score:3, Interesting)

      by bonch ( 38532 )
      so in the corperate areana windows can put it's head between it's knees and kiss it's ass goodbye

      So I've been hearing since 1998...
  • Can anybody think about the screenshots? ;-)
  • by arvindn ( 542080 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @09:26AM (#8168074) Homepage Journal
    that work on integrating kde with OO.o [kde.org] is moving forward. This isn't just a look-n-feel thing, mind you, its much deeper than that. Details in the link.
  • Article Text (Score:5, Informative)

    by digitaltraveller ( 167469 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @09:31AM (#8168106) Homepage
    Why the submitter linked to a php script is beyond me:
    (announcement starts)

    Announcing KDE 3.2

    DATELINE FEBRUARY 3, 2004
    KDE Project Ships New Major Release Of Leading Open Source Desktop Environment
    Splash

    February 3, 2004 (The Internet) - The KDE Project is pleased to announce the immediate availability of KDE 3.2, the third major release of the award-winning KDE3 desktop platform. KDE 3.2 is the result of a combined year-long effort by hundreds of individuals and corporations from around the globe. This diverse team has been working successfully together since 1997 to make KDE the leading Open Source desktop software for Linux and UNIX.

    As with previous KDE releases, version 3.2 provides an integrated desktop and a comprehensive set of applications that combine to create an environment that is usable for a wide variety of tasks right out of the box. In addition to the many new applications making their debut in KDE 3.2, the veteran applications have been refined and augmented generously. By installing some or all of these applications common desktop tasks such as web browsing, file management, email, personal information management, instant messaging, software and web development, multimedia, education and entertainment can be accomplished quickly and easily. This impressive collection of software is complemented by a recent update to the KOffice integrated office suite.

    Reflecting its international team and focus, KDE 3.2 is currently available in 42 different languages. Partial translations into 32 other languages are also available, many of which are expected to be completed during the KDE 3.2 life cycle. With 74 different languages and full localization support, no other desktop is as ready to serve the needs of today's global community.

    KDE 3.2 also provides improvements in usability and performance. Noticeable speed boosts in application start up times and webpage rendering together with many interface refinements make KDE 3.2 the most usable and performant KDE ever. Attention was also paid to ensuring that KDE is accessible to those with disabilities. Several accessibility related applications are included with 3.2 and work on integrating accessibility technologies directly into KDE's foundations is ongoing.

    KDE has earned a reputation for quality and a comprehensive feature set among its global user base that is estimated to number in the millions. KDE is also proud to be the default user interface for several operating systems including Ark Linux, Conectiva, Knoppix, Lindows, Lycoris, Mandrake Linux, SUSE Linux, TurboLinux and Xandros. KDE is also available as a part of Debian, Free/Open/NetBSD, Gentoo, Libranet, Red Hat Linux, Slackware and Solaris, among others. In addition to these operating system vendors, more and more companies are offering commercial support for KDE, some of which are listed in the business directory of the KDE::Enterprise website. With the release of KDE 3.2, the KDE Project looks to enhance and grow this ecosystem of users and supporters.
    Highlights At A Glance

    Some of the highlights in KDE 3.2 are listed below. .

    * Increased performance and standards compliance
    o Lowered start up times for applications and hundreds of optimizations make KDE 3.2 the fastest KDE ever!
    o Working in concert with Apple Computer Inc.'s Safari web browser team, KDE's web support has seen huge performance boosts as well as increased compliance with widely accepted web standards
    o Increased support for FreeDesktop.org standards in KDE 3.2 strengthens interoperability with other Linux and UNIX software.
    * New applications
    o JuK: a jukebox-style music player
    o Kopete: an instant messenger with support for AOL Instant Messenger, MSN, Yahoo Messenger, ICQ, Gadu-Gadu, Jabber, IRC, SMS and WinPopup
    o KWallet: providing integrated, secure storage of passwords and web form data
    o Kontact: a unified interfa
  • Thank you! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by wasimmer ( 515964 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @09:35AM (#8168122) Homepage
    How about a shout-out to everyone who contributed to the development of KDE! Thanks for your fine work guys, keep it up!
  • RDP support? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Malc ( 1751 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @09:52AM (#8168215)
    The web sites crawling so I can't find out. What do they mean by RDP support? They integrated an RDP client, or it runs an RDP server?

    Of the three remote protocols I'm forced to use at work with Windows (RDP aka Terminal Services, pcAnywhere and VNC), RDP is by far the best. Internet problems left me with nearly 700ms of latency for a while yesterday... but RDP was still usable. The same can't be said for the other two protocols.
  • by StressGuy ( 472374 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @10:11AM (#8168334)
    Got a couple of small children and this would be useful. My three year old already uses KDE (that I've set up to limit his access). Kiosk mode would be even better since I can control websites, etc.

    BTW - I actually set up a Linux box for him because of gcompris (which is buggy at times, but pretty neat). Although, his favorite games are Frozen Bubble, Tux Kart, and Tux Racer.
  • by HarveyBirdman ( 627248 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @10:14AM (#8168350) Journal
    Harvey Birdman: Hey, Windows using feind- I mean, friend. Why not convert to Linux? The new KDE is out. It's really Windows-like, and you can get away from Microsoft and blahdy blahdy blah, etc.

    Windows Using Friend: What do I do?

    HB: You download the tarballs and-

    WUF: That tar whats?

    HB: The tarballs and-

    WUF: The what balls?

    HB: The tar balls and-

    WUF: The what whats?

    And so on and so forth...

    • HB: Screw this, here's a nice CD, put it in your machine and restart your computer.

      WUF: What's that?

      HB: It's called a knoppix [knopper.net] CD. You can run linux and use that KDE thing you hear me blabber so much about without installing anything on your harddrive, and if you like it, you can install it anyway.

      WUF: Wow, I'll try that. Thanks!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @10:16AM (#8168359)
    ftp://ibiblio.org (28 hours)

    ftp://kde.us.themoes.org (11 hours)

    http://mirrors.isc.org (14 hours)

    http://ibiblio.org (28 hours)

    http://mirrors.midco.net (8 hours)

    http://ftp.us.kde.org (10 hours)

    ftp://kde.pandmservices.com (11 hours)

    http://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu (11 hours)

    ftp://ftp.rutgers.edu (9 hours)

    ftp://ftp.oregonstate.edu (24 hours)

    http://ftp.rutgers.edu (9 hours)

    http://kde.oregonstate.edu (24 hours)

    http://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu (13 hours)

    ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu (11 hours)

    ftp://mirror.xmission.com (29 hours)

    ftp://ftp.us.kde.org (10 hours)

    ftp://mirrors.midco.net (8 hours)
  • by Call Me Black Cloud ( 616282 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @10:17AM (#8168363)
    This is a good opportunity for Windows users to migrate to a free desktop

    The desktop might be free but my time isn't. See, I already own Windows. It's installed, working fine, and arranged just the way I like it. It doesn't cost me a thing as it's already paid for.

    If for some reason I was dissatisfied with my Windows experience I would have to get and install a new OS, install this updated free desktop (assuming it didn't come with the distro), download the apps I need to be productive (as a Java developer I could pretty much continue to work without impact), and learn to use the new OS/desktop combo.

    All this adds up to money. I have a salaried day job and I do hourly contract work at night, with more hours than I can handle on the contract. Any time setting up a new environment (for no reason) is money directly out of my pocket. And it may even cut into my bzFlag playing time!

    Windows XP is quite stable and secure. We've never had any problems in our house. Of course, the hardware router, AV software, and Windows Update help.

    On a tangential note, I'm about to dump OpenOffice. What a dog. I gave my wife my copy of Office XP and I've been using OO for the occasional letter or spreadsheet. Even for that limited work I find its performance to be unacceptable. Another driving factor - through the Microsoft Home Use program in conjunction with my day job I can get the latest Office (professional version) or Project for $20 each. Full retail? I wouldn't switch. $20? Oh yeah, I'll pay $20 for improved performance.
    • by 10Ghz ( 453478 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @10:53AM (#8168684)
      Windows XP is quite stable and secure.


      Then what's the deal with all those viruses?
    • by debest ( 471937 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @11:34AM (#8169099)
      Your points are entirely realistic. If there is no reason to switch an existing computer from Windows (if the switch will inconvenience the user more than Windows already does), then it shouldn't be done.

      For many here, the effort is the reward itself. This is not an argument that will win many converts from Windows. For others, who have the ability and attitude to accept change very quickly and not be locked into a set way of doing things, making the change may very well be worth it, as they may find (at least I do) that I get things done faster using Linux. No, not the tweaking part (that can consume days at a time!), but the everyday tasks that I use my computer for. But this is STILL a very small cross section of the total desktop users out there.

      The fact remains, however, that Linux, KDE, etc. provide a very good desktop experience once installed properly, and it is free. These may not be good enough reasons for virtually anyone to convert over an existing machine, but it sure sounds like a recipe that will lead to pre-installations on new computers. THIS is where all this effort will eventually bear fruit. Corporate environments (where security, customizability, and lack of vendor lock-in are becoming big pluses) are where Free software will certainly continue getting more wins. Plus, a fully functional PC that can be sold without the Windows tax can start to look attractive to home users, too.

      Think new PCs, not existing ones. Still, this won't be common anytime soon (I'd say at least a couple more years) before your average computer user will seriously be comfortable buying a new machine with something other than Windows on it. But it will come in due time.

      In the meantime, don't let the trolls bother you. For your needs (and frankly most people's needs), Windows is still the correct OS for your computer. Thankfully, this will not be the case for much longer ;-)
    • See, I already own Windows

      You mean, you already license it.
  • Migration Question (Score:5, Insightful)

    by djeaux ( 620938 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @10:20AM (#8168378) Homepage Journal
    This is a good opportunity for Windows users to migrate to a free desktop.

    Wouldn't Windows users have to migrate to Linux first? Unless I missed something, KDE is not a desktop environment that replaces the Windows GUI on Windows boxen.

    Considering that the vast majority of computer users are going to barf at the thought of reinstalling their OS & that most are doing very well just to apply a "recovery disk" to restore their system to its original, store-bought state, I don't think that a pretty new desktop for Linux will do much to encourage the average Windows user to migrate to Linux.

  • by jonatanw ( 667696 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @10:37AM (#8168529) Homepage
    One thing that i noticed is their instant messaging application - it seems to be a bit like Trillian on windows.. Has any of you experienced this and can tell the difference?
    • by fault0 ( 514452 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @10:47AM (#8168629) Homepage Journal
      Yeah, Kopete and Trillian are quite similar in terms of feature set and functionality. Trillian Pro however does a few things, like RDF feeds, email checking, that Kopete doesn't do (yet..).

      The main difference between Kopete and Trillian is the interfaces. Kopete tries to be HIGHLY integreated with the KDE desktop, and thus doesn't support skinning. It strictly ahears to the KDE style guide. Trillian on the other hand, looks quite cool with it's skinning, but it doesn't try to blend in with the rest of Windows.
  • by Newtonian_p ( 412461 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @10:41AM (#8168573) Homepage
    Slashdotted alreay?

    Here are some of the new features:

    * Increased performance and standards compliance
    o Lowered start up times for applications and hundreds of optimizations make KDE 3.2 the fastest KDE ever!
    o Working in concert with Apple Computer Inc.'s Safari web browser team, KDE's web support has seen huge performance boosts as well as increased compliance with widely accepted web standards
    o Increased support for FreeDesktop.org standards in KDE 3.2 strengthens interoperability with other Linux and UNIX software.
    * New applications
    o JuK: a jukebox-style music player
    o Kopete: an instant messenger with support for AOL Instant Messenger, MSN, Yahoo Messenger, ICQ, Gadu-Gadu, Jabber, IRC, SMS and WinPopup
    o KWallet: providing integrated, secure storage of passwords and web form data
    o Kontact: a unified interface that draws KDE's email, calendaring, address book, notes and other PIM features together into a familiar configuration
    o KGpg: providing an easy-to-use KDE interface to industry-standard encryption tools
    o KIG: an interactive geometry program
    o KSVG: a viewer for SVG files
    o KMag, KMouseTool and KMouth: accessibility tools for KDE
    o KGoldRunner: a new riff on a classic game
    o ... and many more!
    * Thousands of incremental improvements and bug fixes
    o During the development of KDE 3.2 nearly 10,000 bug reports were processed via the KDE Bug Tracking System
    o Approximately 2,000 feature requests were also processed, with hundreds of requested features added to KDE applications and components
    o An improved configuration system that opens the door to new installation management possibilities, improved roaming support and many improvements to the "KDE Kiosk" environment management system
    o Inline spell checking for web forms and emails
    o Improved email and calendaring support
    o Powerful tabbed interface for the Konqueror file manager and web browser
    o Support for Microsoft Windows desktop sharing protocol (RDP)
    * Improved Usability
    o Reduced clutter in many menus and toolbars
    o Many applications, dialogs and control panels reworked for clarity and utility
    * Enhanced appearance
    o Plastik, a tastefully understated new look, debuts in KDE 3.2
    o Hundreds of new icons improve the consistency and beauty of KDE
    o Tweaks to the default look including new splash screens, (optionally) animated progress bars, styled panels and more!
    * New Tools for Software Developers
    o Comprehensive API documentation extended for 3.2
    o Language bindings for ECMAScript (aka Javascript), Python, Java and Ruby
    o New versions of the powerful KDevelop IDE and Quanta web development suite
    o Umbrello brings UML modeling for 11 different languages including C++, Java, SQL, PHP, Python and Perl to KDE
  • by twener ( 603089 ) on Tuesday February 03, 2004 @11:27AM (#8169029)

I like work; it fascinates me; I can sit and look at it for hours.

Working...