There have been four examples, USSR, China, Cuba, Vietnam. Vietnam and China are going gangbusters, tiny Cuba has managed to withstand six decades of constant economic attacks by the most powerful economy on the planet, and the USSR survived as a major force in the world longer than any country outside of Europe and North America. I'd say that your definition of "shitty" leaves a bit to be desired.

True, car manufacturers were sleeping on the wheel, they kept copy&paste their (and other) models, without little innovation.
Hybrid cars were a detail that most ignored, Tesla was a alarm ringing, time for them to improve...yet they look only to top class and quickly it was saturated. Where is demand, lower and middle classes, there were too few alternatives. Now Chinese cars, "same" but cheaper, is a big slap in the face.

Big car brands are too slow to innovate and that creating a market for new brands that can have simple processes.

Is like Nokia phone development, full of process, analysis, tests, market segments... them apple launched the iphone and any valid response required too many development years just to start testing.

but the reverse is that all those plan and test increase quality and quality is good. Toyota even created what is considered now a standard in quality control
new brands skip many of those and them you have tesla headlights glued, things breaking, etc

Chinese for sure also have quality problems, worsen by the fact that many workers (and factories) do cut corners to increase production numbers

Cars build 30 years ago were much simpler and cheaper to build, but doing the same today is not valid due to security, quality and expectation. Tada Motors have very cheap cars... are they safe? do they work after 2 years? not really

that is what they are selling... but is it true? (not the price, while with government funding, the price is also fake, we will pay that later, when there is no alternative)
almost all Chinese hardware of several kinds i get, the announced battery life is totally fake with real world usage. Some the battery lost almost half capacity in one year.

in some cars reviews, i also read that real live range is much lower... but all cars like to lie in their real range. we need more real work metrics and those only show up with time

why are you even here?! go make your own news!!

news for nerds. stuff that matters!
while in the USA apple rules, the rest of the work prefer not wasting their money and wants good android table for the money... problem, that is a rare hardware, the race to bottom means you have many cheap and bad tables and few good ones. This is a valid question. Samsung and Lenovo are taken usually as the last good enough tablets, but with some downsides... maybe other people know other alternatives, specially ones that can be upgraded

people buy laptops, many times not for the mobility but as a good setup that is pre-build, works and doesn't take much space
people buy consoles, to plug in the living room and not have to worry about updated, virus, etc, just turn on and play

can you trust that Chinese car to drive from Romania to France? how many stops you will need to recharge?! are there enough chargers in the path?! too new to know, to many unknowns. They may even be good, Chinese quality is increasing, but is a too high value for most people to bet. My city car is 25 years old (not that much used to be replace by a EV), the family main car is 10 years (hybrid), both still good, low cost maintenance... will a Chinese car last that longer? at what maintenance price?!

for full families and long distances, you really want a different kind of car, again, hybrid or hybrid-plugin, not EV

then why you are buying a EV for a big car even?! just to vanity say you own a EV!!

until range is higher, cost is lower, EV are VANITY cars
everyone is waiting for cheaper EV cars, brands insist in to the top class EV, mostly ignoring the lower and middle classes
Chinese are cheaper, but that is also dumping and random quality (and lifetime, most people buy a car for 5 to 10 years, will those last that longer?! how much service will cost? a car isn't a printer, most will can't buy another one if it breaks )

But lower and middle class EV cars have a problem, batteries are still too expensive and with low range. To get to that classes, you need small cars or fake ranges!! That is why Toyota didn't invest in EV, they knew that there is not enough Lithium available to mass produce low and middle EV... but there is for low and middle hybrid

Every day we see news about new batteries and recently, new and better EV motors. Until those news show up in the market, we are using 10 or 20 years old tech that is simply not enough for for a big sedan or van EV. That makes bit EV cars vanity!
for big EV cards, choose 2: range, price, lifetime/quality

you are lying, it is still fashion, you are just justifying to yourself some excused to buy a tesla!
for your requirements you still have EV sedan cars lower than the tesla value, both chinese and other countries, being the Hyundai Ioniq 6 the best example and still cheaper than the tesla.

if you open to hybrid, you get lot more deals with lower price and hybrid-plugin is still cheaper:
https://www.caranddriver.com/r...

but yes, a car for the family to travel far with luggage isn't much in the scope of EVs, that is more in the scope of hybrids
EV as great for city or short distance travel, so they are smaller and range is not a issue. For long distance, don't trick yourself, at least not yet, EV range is still not enough unless you want to suffer the pain of waiting (with kids!!) and no available chargers in range

So either you want a EV car for city and short travels (and you are not always packed!!) , or you want a bigger car. Bigger EV car for short travel is stupid and is only justified as fashion (hey, look!! i have a C00L EV!!). Long distances, Hybrid and hybrid-plugin are much better options

hey, if you family is 6 or more, you need to adjust to a van (or higher!!), so defining your need is the main point to exclude certain solutions. If your family needs a bigger card with big luggage, EV are not the right solution for you (yet!)

Now all those houses have residents. Remember when the "train stations to nowhere" meant that the Chinese economy was definitely going to collapse? Now those stations are surrounded by businesses, industry and homes.

It's not the same kind of economy as we have, or the same kind of culture, and people somehow are unable to understand that.

Depends on the definition. You can call a person / AI a Nazi, simply because it said something you do not like. And being toxic can mean a serious range of things. I bet with all the safe guards, it is really difficult for current LLMs to be a toxic as an average forum user...

The US/EU are not the entire world, just the most profitable portion of it. As Belt & Road improves electrical infrastructure throughout the Third World those countries will be snapping up anything that comes in at a reasonable price point.

Oops. My bad. "Almost a decade"

And it should be absolutely fine to reproduce the lyrics verbatim and in full. Copyright as gotten completely out of hand.

Ah, just commented on your post about ACs earlier, but also notice that you clearly have at least one psychotically obsessed stalker who posts AC. Yeah, I can see how that could certainly color your opinion about ACs. Of course, even without the AC option being available, they would almost certainly just use a revolving cycle of the sock puppet accounts they use to mod stalk you to post anyway. They might need to use more accounts to accomplish it though. Actually, that's one thing I'm not sure of in the Slashdot moderation system: whether you can downmod ACs and have those affect the actual account that posted AC. It really should now that ACs have to be real accounts, but I'm not sure offhand.

AC posting is a natural consequence of the moderation system and the ability to easily create an account though. If there were not ACs, people would effectively post AC by just creating new sock puppet accounts all the time. If people have lots of sock puppet accounts anyway, it's a gateway towards abuses of the moderation system, etc. Plus new accounts get the benefit of the doubt in terms of posting level, ACs, both back in the past when they did not need an account and now, when they do, are already automatically downgraded. Basically you can't really run any sort of online forum without making some sort of compromises about how people can communicate. My daughter was watching me post the other day and was wondering why there was no edit feature for posts. I explained that it can be like rewriting history, especially if people have already replied, but also if they have read it and are contemplating a reply, etc. While it would be nice if there could be a mechanism to update a post (without removing the original, but to add corrections or updates) without having to create a sub-post, obviously Slashdot made a specific compromise for that. Basically, for the features available for posting, Slashdot picked a certain set of options and, while imperfect, it is hard to say that another choice would have been objectively better.