GPLv2 is purely about code openness and code contribution but not about FSF ideals.
Not according to the people who actually WROTE the GPLv2. You made a good point about *some* of the people who chose to use it, but that is not what the GPLv2 was written FOR.
I replied to someone who said that "his manner is coarse." They were speaking of Linus's general manner, not his specific conduct in this particular case.
Linus has a long history of name-calling, mocking, ridiculing, etc.
Context.
Ok, that's a good point.
Wrong, I don't need a Tivo to use their code.
That is beside the point. This isn't about *you*.
This is about the 99.99% of people who use Tivo code, use it on a Tivo, and as a result they are denied the particular freedoms the original authors of the code it is licensed under intended for them to have.
Granted 98% of them don't care about the license or about changing the code. But the authors of the original code AND the license cared a great deal about it.
A loophole that clearly many authors wanted and have accepted as "by design".
Absolutlely not an outcome the authors of the license wanted. And I'm skeptical you can find any developers who expressly WANTED the GPL for tivoization... i mean if you want that, then use the BSD or something. There are lots of perfectly suitable licenses for that use.
What realistic scenario can you put forth where the developer actively wants to license their code under the GPL and simultaneously doesn't want people to be able to modify the code they received to run on on the equipment the code is installed on?
Seriously. Find one.
And no, Tivo itself doesn't count, they didn't author original code and actively select the GPL... they merely took the GPL code that was out there because it was out there and used it, and ran a legal end run around the authors intentions.
Not everybody who uses the GPLv2 (or any FSF license) subscribes to the FSF ideology,
There does have to be a fairly substantial overlap with FSF ideology though, otherwise you'd pick something else, like BSD.
in fact some of the most prominent ones (Linux for example) explicitly do not.
By "Linux" I assume you mean Linus? And while its clear he disagrees with the FSF on some key points, you'd be hard pressed to demonstrate that he actively approves of Tivoization. At best I'd say he doesn't like the GPLv3's method of trying to prevent it. But I could be mistaken. I'm not Linus.
Not at all - by including an "or later" clause you also open your code to being re-licensed under GPLv666
Maybe. It'll still be available under GPLv2 though.
So you would like to buy a carpet, sahib? Here, enjoy a glass of tea.
So. You are able to regurgitate the Israeli propaganda that was fed to the world's press organizations, 40 years ago - building the myth of the ruthless Palestinian and the incomparable IDF.
But the BBC - that revolutionary hotbed of anti-Israeli sentiment - had this to report, confirming what Victor Ostrovsky and others had intimated for many years:
But newly released documents contain a claim that the 1976 rescue of hostages, kidnapped on an Air France flight and held in Entebbe in Uganda, was not all it seemed.
A UK government file on the crisis, released from the National Archives, contains a claim that Israel itself was behind the hijacking.
An unnamed contact from the Euro-Arab Parliamentary Association told a British diplomat in Paris that the Israeli Secret Service, the Shin Bet, and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) collaborated to seize the plane.
The flight was seized shortly after it took off from Athens and was flown to Entebbe, where 98 people were held hostage, many of them Israeli citizens.
socialism stepped in as the american dream eroded.
And now fascism is coming up fast along the rail.
Is Madden still a good game year after year? I stopped playing them back in the '70s (I think), so I really don't know.
Is it like fantasy football, or is it more of a twitch controller game where you have to learn combinations and everything and there's quick time events?
I think EA and Microsoft should do their best to charge customers whatever their customers voluntarily agreed to
"Do their best"? That assumes any overcharges are accidental. You're giving those companies way too much credit.
What was the last time you heard of EA or Microsoft undercharging someone by accident?
Well, it's still your money going into EA coffers.
If you really see them as a company that sees its customers as the enemy, you won't want to be enriching them in any way.
Yes. I've set up alarms on all of my accounts, so that if it sees any payment to "EA", it knows that someone has hacked my accounts, because I will not knowingly give that company my money.
So don't buy a TiVo then. "Tivoization of your code" is nonsense because Tivoization doesn't have anything to do with the code, in fact you can get the code here licensed under GPLv2 and use it under those terms just as you would any GPLv2 project.
Read the preamble to the GPLv2 or the philosophy of the FSF. Tivoization is a legal end run around the philosophical purpose the license.
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy...
"Specifically, free software means users have the four essential freedoms: (0) to run the program, (1) to study and change the program in source code form, (2) to redistribute exact copies, and (3) to distribute modified versions."
Tivoization of GPL code preserves those 4 rights, but withholds the implicit desire of GPL users to be able to exercise those rights on the hardware the software is running on.
Tivoization is a manifestation of "what good is your right to a phone call, if we take away your ability to speak".
When the GPL2 was written no one had conceived that you might receive GPL code installed on a device, be allowed to run it, be allowed to change it, be allowed to redistribute it... but NOT be allowed to run the changed software on the original device.
It was a loophole that was implicitly intended by the GPLv2, but not made explicit. The GPLv3 attempts to close the loophole.
And as an aside, the AGPL3 is mean to meant to close another loophole that wasn't originally conceived of... developers would use GPL code, and distribute only access to the code running remotely rather than copies of the code itself, thereby exempting them from the need to share the source.
A committee is a group that keeps the minutes and loses hours. -- Milton Berle