It was supposed to say keep workers in line.

So the underlining premise is that we can't just explore for the sake of exploring because nobody's going to pay for it.

We have to colonize just like we did hundreds of years ago because in order to get the kings, well the CEOs now but they're basically the same thing, to fund the whole thing we need to offer them the possibility of a reward. A payoff for them.

I suppose we could fundamentally reorganize our entire civilization so that we did not need the blessings of kings to do cool stuff but I think we are nowheres near ready for that.

Not the way the .com bubble did.

The main purpose of all these llms is to replace White collar jobs. Everything else is just leading up to that.

So even when the industry shakes out and your left with two maybe three big players they're still going to need all that electricity to replace those jobs.

So we're not going to get any cheap capacity and infrastructure out of them because they're going to be using it.

Financially a bubble might burst when the industry shakes out everybody but the big boys, but it's not going to free up a bunch of electricity. It just means there will be fewer players and a bunch of people caught holding the bag on companies that never made any money.

Um... A good buddy of mine is a guitarist and pretty heavily into music and was using Spotify for ages. The only reason they switch to YouTube music is because 99% of what he wants is there and quality is fine and he's already paying for YouTube premium to get rid of the ads.

But if you're into music there's lots of stuff on YouTube music and Spotify that's basically unobtainium even if you're going to sail the seven seas which in America is a high risk endeavor since if your ISP catches you they will permanently ban you and usually you only have one maybe two isps if you're lucky.

And the venues have been bought up and you've got stuff like Ticketmaster to deal with.

Over and over and over again the problem is market consolidation allowing big corporations to fuck over anyone that works for a living including working musicians.

I think the problem is back in the day when we had those giant factories with tens of thousands of employees it was really obvious to everybody when they were getting screwed in mass and it was easy for us to organize. We also had the churches which the billionaires noticed we were using to organize and have gradually replaced with mega charges run by crooks like Jerry Falwell

Now we're all kind of spread to the four corners of the Earth as individuals. And it's also super tempting to become obsessed with being a badass individual who don't need no help and don't need no organization. It just plain feels bad to know that you have to rely on your neighbors for help.

So it's easy to divide and conquer us. We're all getting screwed in individual ways

It's a pipe dream that libertarians came up with to try and preserve capitalism in the face of automation devouring jobs faster than technology can create new jobs.

By itself Ubi just ends up with monopolies sucking the money right back out of people and that's if you can get it through which you probably can't because there is nothing that pisses people off more than giving somebody who isn't working money.

You can explain and explain and explain but is Ronald Reagan said if you're explaining you're losing.

Giving people who don't work money feels bad. It makes you feel like a sucker if you're one of the people still working.

I don't know how you overcome that and I don't know what you do with all the automation we are doing. We have been automating away middle class jobs since the eighties with close to 70% of the middle class jobs eaten by it and we're about to do another huge round of automation. The only thing that's kept our economy from collapsing is we had two major bubbles, the .com bubble in the housing bubble and those are both over and AI isn't really the same kind of bubble because it doesn't generate a shit ton of weird jobs doing stuff or a bunch of economic activity that filters down to regular people. It's just more automation that eliminates jobs.

I honestly don't know what we're going to do. I think what's going to happen is we're going to hit 25% permanent unemployment and then we're going to have a world war and then we're going to give the nuclear launch codes to religious lunatics and they're going to use them thinking that they're protected by God and then well, game over man game over.

But Ubi is not the solution. You won't be able to get it through and if by some miracle you do the money can easily be extracted right back out of people without a shitload of additional programs which Ubi is designed to eliminate.

Back in the days of Unionization companies created management to keep an eye on employees and make sure the company came out ahead all the time.

Over the years unions got busted and broken starting with Ronald reagan. Widespread factory automation meant that you no longer had tens of thousands of individual workers at a single site who could readily organize. Also the corporations moved in and replaced small local churches that could be used for local organization with big mega charges that they controlled with their mega church buddies like Jerry Falwell.

Without the unions they didn't need management the same way to bust unions and keep workers in liworkershey started using management as regular line workers. If you're paying attention your boss has been taking on more regular work year after year and less management work.

But the company still needs somebody to make sure that the company's interests are put before yours. That's HR.

HR is the next evolution and making your life worse and making billionaires lives... Well I'm not going to say better because they're already as good as they can possibly get but just plain letting them have more money in power at your expense.

Of course all of this triggers the fuck out of a ton of libertarian types because they don't like the think about all the systems in the world. Folks want to believe that they can be tremendously successful just with their own two hands and maybe a little bit of brain work and that they don't need anybody else. It's something you pick up when you're a teenager and most people never grow out of it.

Pointing that out also triggers people.

What you're missing, as usual, is that IT DOESN'T EXIST YET but you're claiming that it does, as usual.

FTFS, "it's the first version of UNIX in which the kernel and some of the core utilities were rewritten in the new C programming language"

Yes, this place really has gone to shit.

Yes, but we could also develop the same technologies and then not spend the money going to space, and instead implement them here, and think about space exploration once we're sure we have a future.

People do it to me constantly (a day without a 3-5 comment serial downmod is unusual) and I don't have to post AC to keep my Karma in the excellent range.

It was sabotaged.

Back in the day several bands were making a good living off mp3.com. record companies noticed this and destroyed mp3.com using the legal system.

Like everything in our economy it's about consolidation and control. Antitrust.

So what should have happened is the record companies should have been forbidden from buying mp3.com and it should have gone to a neutral third party following the settlement regarding the copyright violation.

But we were busy worrying about 9/11 and other bullshit so we were distracted while our future was snatched away from us.

Folks need to understand the need for antitrust law and how to recognize a politician that will enforce it. You can't just leave the free market up to itself because it's not a free market and it never was and it never will be.

People want to believe in an idealized version of capitalism that just doesn't exist. It's drilled into your head when you're a kid so it's hard to get it out.

And keep in mind this is just music. The same systems and processes and problems exist for food and shelter and medicine and education.

The game alpha centauri is a lot more applicable here. However what you are talking about requires future technology. You would need self repairing machines for that. While this is arguably semi-feasible (design machines to be more modular and therefore serviceable by robots which could swap modules) they don't exist yet. And once they do we will be too busy dealing with the upheaval from the destruction of service jobs to think about colonizing other planets or moons.

"Time to switch to iPhone then and keep that AI cruft off the phone."

How would that help? You don't seem to have been keeping up with what apple is doing to your precious toy.