False, I just did this and it did nothing.

I see you didn't read the Toyota unintended acceleration report by the Barr Group, and have nothing of value to add to this conversation.

So now China is making too many electric cars and solar panels, compared to domestic demand. Their solution was to export that stuff. Now we want to impose tariffs on those things, so that global demand for Chinese stuff is artificially depressed. But when China loses markets for their stuff, what will they make with their comically overbuilt production capacity? Not solar panels or clean cars, but weapons. It turns out tariffs don't stop the "export" of bombs and missiles and attack drones to Taiwan.

They spent 60 years getting us to this point starting when Barry Goldwater lost. Right wing extremists have been gradually taking over every single aspect of American culture and civilization and the economy.

I mean yeah we indulged in pointless moral panics and bigotry and racism so there is a little bit on us.

But frustrations about bigots aside you're blaming the victim. Especially when so many people just do not have the education and critical thinking training to see past propaganda and moral panics.

Yeah, any sensible human being is against the concept of work. Work should be viewed as a necessary evil. Not as some bullshit puritanical means to its own end.

Keep in mind when a scientist sits down and learn something or a surgeon does the same they're not working the same way you and I are. They're doing something that they find tremendously interesting and fulfilling.

The problem is the English language is shit on a shingle so we don't have a word for doing something that is simultaneously useful to civilization as a whole and fulfilling to differentiate it from something that's just a stupid bit of drudgery that is physically necessary.

So we use work to cover both of those things. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that billionaires who never do a lick of work in their entire life benefit from that quirk of our language.

Also I'm sure I completely lost you there's no way you're going to follow a conversation this complex and it frankly isn't all that complex. Why are you wasting your time here? Did you get kicked out of Reddit or something?

Also to clarify, there is a difference between being taught the general skills and knowledge needed to do a job and being taught specific tasks needed to make someone's business profitable.

Back when I was a kid there was a line between school work and on the job training and you got paid for on the job training. I am pretty certain the old farts floating around this forum also got paid for actual on the job training.

Now not only do kids not get paid for on the job training they pay for the privilege and they don't have a choice because that's the only way into a middle class life assuming you're lucky enough to even get a shot at that anymore.

It seems like my kid just barely squeaked in but it's hard to say. From what I can tell anyone five or six years younger than my kid is get screwed in the current job market even more than my kid could even fathom.

Our entire system and civilization is collapsing around us. And we're too much of a bunch of pissy little 12-year-olds to do anything about it

Really good comment. I think I basicallly already thought this, but the way you put it is clearer than how I was thinking about it, so thanks!

I doubt it has anything to do with honesty and has more to do with the fact that he's at risk of costing billionaires a lot of money and if you do that you usually go to jail and you don't get to bribe the president for a pardon.

My guess is he's getting out before that.

I do find it hilarious that he's famous for predicting the housing market crash that every single sensible and honest economist was telling us was coming.

We really really hate listening to experts. There's a reason that stupid movie Forrest Gump is so popular and Homer Simpson so beloved. For some reason we really love the idea that you can be a completely ignorant fool and still be tremendously successful.

What about top speed limiting?

And speaking of which, what about an emergency stop button? They've had a number of self-driving vehicle runaways which could have been stopped with such a thing.

Yes, overproduction is necessary. But it's also waste. And if you get too much of it, then it's unsustainable.

Fine words from a coward.

I don't want anything in the browser that I have to worry about whether it's turned on and spying on me or not.

Anything like that should be an add-on so it can be not just disabled but removed (assuming it's shipped with the browser.)

My pet Firefox peeve is with mobile. It's shitty and getting shittier. Not only does it have a javascript-related memory leak they haven't bothered to fix for many years, but now it's hanging when trying to upload images. It works once or twice and then on the third try the browser hangs. It takes a long time to get through to kill it too so it looks frankly like yet another memory leak.

Same for scrollbar width. Can't even fix that with a setting reliably, have to edit a file.

The rush is that burning it is buggering up the planet. If the US refuses, it becomes a security issue and we be dealt with appropriately.

These are the kind of nasty little services you see in Asian countries where people are working 12 hours a day 6 days a week.

Basically you don't have time for anything so at some point if you have an errand you need to run you end up having to pay somebody else to do it even if it's something as simple and stupid as this.

You justify it by saying that you're getting paid at your job enough to cover this but you're actually massively overworking yourself and you will eventually burn out. Meanwhile the company you work for is using you up and eventually when you're dried up they will throw you out like used toilet paper.

When you see stuff like this it's a sign of a failing system.

There's a huge number of small business owner types that desperately want to run their own businesses and will do anything and risk anything to do it.

I've got a buddy of mine that I've kind of been out of touch with just with work and such but I remember that he absolutely killed himself in a desperate bid to avoid working for somebody else. He used to run a local car audio place but couple of his employees basically poached all his customers and then a minor economic downturn finished the business off. After that he spent decades doing little tiny computer stuff for just enough money to keep his trailer held together by tape and glue. His wife also worked full-time as a waitress.

So you find somebody like that and you dump the franchise on them. Let them work 90 hours a week trying to make it profitable. Most won't but there is a nearly unlimited supply of those guys and you can just keep cycling through them. Usually they've got some savings kicking around or maybe a relative died and left them some money.

It's one of the many ways large corporations extract wealth from the working class. Basically dangling the dream in front of people with the full intention of scamming them out of money