I will pause judgment until they conduct the same test on domestically made buses.

Conservatism is two camps (maybe 3 now)

MAGA
Never-Trump (these are just liberals now)
And now there is the growing "America First"

You can cope about the state of the conservative movement in America but right now, Trump owns it because conservatives gave it to him.

Ha, good zinger, gonna say I have TDS next? Zingers aren't arguments though so this is a reluctant "you're right" because this is obvious, he's the leader of the party, they follow his words.

They're also the only ones talking about and the only comprehensive health care reform since LBJ was passed the one time the Democrats had 60 Senate votes and they dragged it across the line alone. Again, no way to both sides this, the difference is obvious.

He tried to support the vaccine he helped create but was resoundly bood everytime he brought it up, he created the conspiratorial conditions that let it fester, never took a hard stand to put down an obvious bad thing happening. Maybe he didnt personally go antivax but he cowed to it and palled around with folks in that camp. Complicit.

Biden got the vaccine Dec 2020 and praised Trump for it, because he's a decent man and not a crook. Then he promised to get 100 million doses and did it.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politi...

As we discuss an article about waning herd immunity and increasing outbreaks.

And maybe putting a guy whose entire political career was built out of being antivax the head of the fucking HHS. This is Trump Derangement-Derangement Syndrome, any criticism is just calling his oppnents crazy. Maybe he's as bad as folks say he is, maybe the never Trumpers have been right all along.

We've had vaccination schedules for decades over presidents from both parties this was never an issue until recently, no slippery slopes found. It's so obvious that it should be completely apolitical, easiest answer around.

Your right to privacy in medical care ends when you can infect other people.

We sacrifice some amount of freedom all the time, in ways you agree with. The cost benefit for mandatory vaccination is extremely clear, maybe one of the most clear thng's we have.

No, that's not how it works. People who live in a place have collective herd immunity or not, unless they are quarantined

When the person behind the desk with the [former] label "leader of the free world" boosts anti-vaxxers, that's not "mere" anything.

It does not matter even slightly where it comes from. It's coming in all the time. What matters is what percentage are vaccinated, which determines whether a population has effective herd immunity. The immigrants aren't moving the needle on that, but the religious are.

So what? Is there a point here or are you just wildly offtopic? Because that brand-new vaccine DID go through some testing, albeit much abbreviated from the usual, and it was already clear that it was safer than the disease. There was also less need for testing because due to its nature it was LESS hazardous than traditional vaccines. We already knew this because we had been doing mRNA vaccine research for years.

There are zero of those.

There are mayors and governors instructing local LE not to assist the crimes of federal human traffickers, but they're NOT instructing them to thwart anything, even though the things they're doing are illegal at all levels.

The fact that you had a problem with misinformation causing an anti-vaxx push doesn't mean that some other place can't actually attribute their problem to a specific person doing their best to spread misinformation.

 

Trump spent several years of his previous presidency pushing an anti-vaxx agenda. You're right this shit doesn't happen in a year, for that you need a very prominent moron shit-tweeting anti-vaxx nonsense for the best part of decade. Which is precisely Trump.
Here's some Trump based anti-vaxx news from 2017 https://www.texastribune.org/2...

The actual map: https://www.arcgis.com/apps/da...
Of note: The top 11 states are red states. New York is the first blue state on the list.
Of note: If some of those top states were any further from the south western board they'd be in fucking Canada, so stop spreading bullshit.

In the USA Trump did it is a studied peer reviewed fact back with science. This effect was literally studied by the University of Queensland leading to a peer reviewed publication in a psychology journal linking Trump's statements to rise in anti-vaxx sentiment. https://www.sciencedirect.com/...

Some people see the government doing anything as inherently bad.

If that's what you read into it then you are the problem. Your own personal bias made you completely miss the point being made.

Indeed if you don't accept science into your life you are left as a subsistence farmer who'll premake die before 40 of a preventable disease.

Fortunately for you, accepting it into your life is the default choice and you don't need it in your heart when you visit the hospital, just in the minds of the doctors.

You can of course really walk the walk and go back to leeches and rebalancing the humours. Of course if you do that you should also fuck off off the internet and not be a massive hypocrite benefiting from science while being a moron about it.

In the blue States it's generally individual cops getting caught doing it. Albeit a lot but still individual cops.

In the red States it's coming down from the top that's the difference. It's because corruption at the top is more common in a red state than a blue state.

This is to be expected if you understand how left and right wing politics work.

In a red State you have a right Wing state. So you have people that are prone to hierarchical structures and obedience.

That's going to encourage corruption because the people at the top will view themselves as being absolutely in charge and the people beneath them will encourage that view. It's why Trump can get away with committing so many crimes and the public still loves him.

A hierarchical command structure versus a democratic command structure is going to lend itself to top down corruption more often and the corruption is going to be worse. There is just no getting away from that or the consequences of right-wing politics.