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The Breaking of Cyber Patrol 4

Posted by michael on Sat Mar 11, 2000 10:42 AM
from the what-they-don't-want-you-to-see dept.
In the wake of recent announcements by Peacefire that they'd decrypted the secret block lists employed by two brands of censoring software, the "encryption" used by another major brand of software, Cyber Patrol, (produced by a company repugnant enough to advertise the increase in sales after Australia passed national censorship legislation), has also been broken. Matthew Skala and Eddy L O Jansson report in an in-depth essay about the practical difficulties encountered when undertaking this task. Their announcement follows.

Their announcement:

"March 11, 2000 - ANNOUNCEMENT

Cyber Patrol(R) 4, a "censorware" product intended to prevent users from accessing undesirable Internet content, has been reverse engineered by youth rights activists Eddy L O Jansson and Matthew Skala. A detailed report of their findings, titled "The Breaking of Cyber Patrol(R) 4", with commentary on the reverse engineering process and cryptographic attacks against the product's authentication system, has been posted on the World Wide Web at this address:

http://hem.passagen.se/eddy1/reveng/cp4/cp4break.html

The abstract of the report:

Several attacks are presented on the "sophisticated anti-hacker security" features of Cyber Patrol(R) 4, a "censorware" product intended to prevent users from accessing Internet content considered harmful. Motivations, tools, and methods are discussed for reverse engineering in general and reverse engineering of censorware in particular. The encryption of the configuration and data files is reversed, as are the password hash functions. File formats are documented, with commentary. Excerpts from the list of blocked sites are presented and commented upon. A package of source code and binaries implementing the attacks is included.

Eddy L O Jansson
srm_dfr@hotmail.com
http://hem.passagen.se/eddy1/index.html

Matthew Skala
mskala@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca
http://www.islandnet.com/~mskala/"

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  • You are completely correct. by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:25AM
  • Re:This is bad for out children by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:33AM
  • Porn scarred me for life! by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @08:16AM
  • Re:Legal Recourse? by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @09:21AM
  • Re:Obligatory DMCA comment by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @11:57AM
  • Re:Legal Recourse? by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @12:42PM
  • This is bad for out children by Anonymous Coward (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:00AM
  • Yup. by Brian Knotts (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @09:26AM
  • Right cause, wrong approach? by Masem (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:40AM
  • It's all about the list. by Hrunting (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @06:39AM
  • Re:Open Source CensorWare? by Eric E. Coe (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @02:28PM
  • Might as well mod this post down now... by Millennium (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @08:02AM
  • OK. It's time to get offensive. by Forge (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @06:44AM
  • Re:Legal Recourse? by richieb (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @12:58PM
  • Re:Sweeping ot under the rug is never a solution by jjoyce (Score:1) Wednesday March 22 2000, @12:40PM
  • Sweeping ot under the rug is never a solution by jjoyce (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @10:08AM
  • Re:This is bad for out children by Paul Carver (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @12:11PM
  • WatZ Da Point? by N8F8 (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @06:44AM
  • Do shelter kids by N8F8 (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:12AM
  • Re:WatZ Da Point? by N8F8 (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @08:05AM
  • Re:Do shelter kids by N8F8 (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @08:25AM
  • Re:Do shelter kids by N8F8 (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @08:43AM
  • Re:WatZ Da Point? by N8F8 (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @08:52AM
  • Re:Do shelter kids by N8F8 (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @09:20AM
  • Re:Do shelter kids by N8F8 (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @09:23AM
  • Re:corperate drug use by N8F8 (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @09:42AM
  • Re:corperate drug use by N8F8 (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @11:28AM
  • Re:corperate drug use by N8F8 (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @12:05PM
  • Re:corperate drug use by N8F8 (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @12:17PM
  • Re:Do shelter kids by N8F8 (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @12:56PM
  • Re:Do shelter kids by N8F8 (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @01:01PM
  • Re:corperate drug use by N8F8 (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @01:06PM
  • Well.... by Chas (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @06:21AM
  • by Felix The Cat (9459) on Saturday March 11 2000, @07:23AM (#1210416)
    Well, speaking as the father of a four-year-old daughter, I just have to say: BZZZZZT! WRONG!

    Censorware is not the only solution, as you would have us believe. As a parent, I feel it is my duty to draw and enforce the boundaries within which my little girl can live, play and learn, whether it be in real life or on her computer. As sush, it is also my duty to personally monitor those boundaries to make sure she doesn't wander outside of them. As she gets older, those boundaries get wider and wider until, when she becomes an adult, I cannot set them anymore.

    I cannot and will not abdicate this responsibility to a piece of software. This is, in effect, what the proponents of this software want us, as parents, to do. Right now, she has not discovered the Internet (like I said, she's only 4), but when she does, you'd better believe that I will be right there, helping her to discover new things on the 'Net, but always ready to enforce those boundaries that I and my wife have set for her. This, I think, will help her grow into a much more responsible and, yes, moral person than a collection of bits could ever hope to.

    Meow.
  • Re:That quote describes the "movement" perfectly by DavidTC (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @10:20AM
  • good read by einstein (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @06:36AM
  • Obligatory DMCA comment by Admiral Burrito (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @11:26AM
  • Re:hmm by Bad Mojo (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @06:45AM
  • Re:You illustrate res0's point perfectly. by Bad Mojo (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @02:26PM
  • Re:What the US Govmnt thinks about anti-censorware by Blue Lang (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @11:12AM
  • Re:That quote describes the "movement" perfectly by Blue Lang (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @11:38AM
  • by Blue Lang (13117) on Saturday March 11 2000, @06:39AM (#1210424) Homepage
    Quote from news.com the other day: (Haselton is the peacefire guy)

    ---
    Gear wouldn't comment on the findings, but Bruce Taylor, chief counsel to the National Law Center for Children and Families in Fairfax, Va.,
    disputed Haselton's study.

    "I don't trust that Peacefire is telling the truth," Taylor said. "It's all part of the cyberpunk revolution. They don't like the government telling them that they don't have free access to the Internet. It's like 'Lord of the Flies,' and they think they have the conch."
    ---

    That condescending, patronizing bullshit opinion in and of itself is more than enough to put me in the mood to grab a pitchfork and prepare for the politicians-up-against-the-wall kind of revolution.

    The issue is not with censoreware, folks, the problem is with the use of hidden and encrypted ban lists. If everyone could see and change those lists at will, then censoreware, while still standing zero chance of actually working, would at least be acceptable.

    As for the issue of performance, I think it's a pretty simple math problem to determine the chances of any one product effectively filtering Pr0n on the great big lan - with the number of new sites coming up every day, the ability of Pr0n purveyors to change sites at will, etc, etc, the chance of a high success rate is pretty well near nil, even if you consider only the sites that play by the rules and allow themselves to be censored.

    --
    blue
  • Re:It's all about the list. by um... Lucas (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @06:59AM
  • Re:Legal Recourse? by um... Lucas (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:29AM
  • Re:Legal Recourse? (Score:3)

    by um... Lucas (13147) on Saturday March 11 2000, @06:57AM (#1210427) Journal
    NO.

    In the US at least, this software is used by parents on their home machines... Parents have every right in the world to say what and what not their children can do and see on the internet on their home machines. It'd be awefully difficult for parents to configure proxy servers on their own that explicity block sites that they stumble across, not to mention the waste of effort. By using the software, parents are implicitly agreeing that they agree with the censorware's author's idea of what and what is not acceptable.

    It's not like it should make much difference to many sites... I mean, kids don't generally have credit cards, so they can't order anything... All those ads also basically go to waste because again kids can't order anything they see promoted on various sites.

    So far as the blocking of Peacefires site goes, that's probably acceptable as well... Why should parents go through the hassle of buying and installing the software if the kids can easily go to a site that gives them tools to circumvent this.

    You have to realize, kids are not real citizens. Parents are in most cases liable for the actions of their kids... They have every right in the world to determine what constitutes acceptable use and what does not. It's not a denial of service attack...
  • That quote describes the "movement" perfectly by Zico (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:30AM
  • Re:That quote describes the "movement" perfectly by Zico (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @08:04AM
  • Re:That quote describes the "movement" perfectly by Zico (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @06:33PM
  • You illustrate res0's point perfectly. by Zico (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:51AM
  • It doesn't preserve free speech by Zico (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @12:31PM
  • Re:This is bad for out children by Todd Knarr (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:15AM
  • Censorware Encryption Doomed to Fail by Ether Trogg (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @10:07AM
  • Re:This is bad for out children by Mr. Mikey (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:38AM
  • Re:This is bad for out children by Mr. Mikey (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:44AM
  • Re:It's not just porn by Mr. Mikey (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @09:22AM
  • Re:There is a solution to this... by Jérôme Zago (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @08:15AM
  • Re:What the US Govmnt thinks about anti-censorware by Tim Pierce (Score:2) Sunday March 12 2000, @07:53AM
  • Re:It's pornography. Please, don't be disingenuous by Mike A. (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @01:45PM
  • Re:hmm by Mike A. (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @04:08PM
  • Re:There is a solution to this... by Merk (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @08:31AM
  • Re:Wow! by Nodatadj (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @08:42AM
  • Re:hmm by 0xdeadbeef (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:33AM
  • Open Source CensorWare? by Izaak (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @08:58AM
  • Re:Legal Recourse? by Znork (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @09:02AM
  • Re:It's not just porn by Znork (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @09:21AM
  • Re:It's not just porn by Znork (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @10:20AM
  • Wow! (Score:3)

    by fremen (33537) on Saturday March 11 2000, @07:12AM (#1210449)
    What an incredible read! These guys really have their act together, and this is a MUST read for anyone interested in reverse engineering anything with crypytography.

    What I really got out of this article (Other than the obvious facts about censorware) is that security through obscurity is never a good thing. In this case, it just took some bright programming and some time with a decompiler.

    What was even more entertaining is how limiting their key space for the hash algorithm actually improved the security (marginally) such that a dictionary attack was a bit harder. While not that much harder, the authors have an excellent point that security would be better with salts.

    Kudos to these guys for a fascinating read and a good job engineering.
  • Re:Porn scarred me for life! by iCEBaLM (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @09:21AM
  • Re:Do shelter kids by iCEBaLM (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:45AM
  • Re:corperate drug use by iCEBaLM (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @10:15AM
  • Re:corperate drug use by iCEBaLM (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @11:46AM
  • Re:corperate drug use by iCEBaLM (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @12:25PM
  • by iCEBaLM (34905) <(icebalm) (at) (icebalm.com)> on Saturday March 11 2000, @09:14AM (#1210455)
    Think about this realisticly here...

    If you're not specifically looking for it, its very hard to come across, especially for kids under 10, who will no doubt be looking for pokemon sites and whatever. Kids 10-16, if they do go looking for it, what do you think their reaction will be? "Ewww Sick" or they laugh it off.

    This kind of content doesn't have as much effect on children as some people would have you belive.

    -- iCEBaLM
  • by iCEBaLM (34905) <(icebalm) (at) (icebalm.com)> on Saturday March 11 2000, @07:20AM (#1210456)
    I think most people agree that, in certain ways, "censorware" can be useful. No one really wants kids to easily see hard core porn, do they?

    To be perfectly honest with you, if I had children, I wouldn't care one way or the other if they see hard core porn.

    Why you ask?

    Because all kids do it, I know when I was 10 or 11 I found my brothers porn mags and looked through them, curiously. It didn't scar me for life, it didn't make me go into violent convultions, it didn't kill me.

    For gods sake here, all it is is a couple of naked bodies having sex, who cares! Kids can undress and look at themselves too ya know. These puritan mores in our society sicken me.

    When it's all said and done, it's not about sheilding your children from nudity and sex, because they are going to see it eventually whether you like it or not. It's about bringing up well adjusted children who are able to handle it.

    -- iCEBaLM
  • Re:Do shelter kids by el_chicano (Score:1) Sunday March 12 2000, @07:16AM
  • Re:corperate drug use by el_chicano (Score:1) Sunday March 12 2000, @07:27AM
  • Re:Do shelter kids by el_chicano (Score:1) Sunday March 12 2000, @07:37AM
  • Re:WatZ Da Point? by el_chicano (Score:1) Sunday March 12 2000, @08:01AM
  • Re:Not quite by el_chicano (Score:1) Sunday March 12 2000, @08:36AM
  • Re:It's not just porn by el_chicano (Score:1) Sunday March 12 2000, @08:43AM
  • Re:Do shelter kids by el_chicano (Score:2) Sunday March 12 2000, @06:54AM
  • Re:It's not just porn by el_chicano (Score:2) Monday March 13 2000, @04:27AM
  • Re:Legal Recourse? by choco (Score:1) Tuesday March 14 2000, @12:28AM
  • My lame opinion: by pcgamez (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @10:29AM
  • Re:It's not just porn by slashdot-me (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @10:17AM
  • Re:It's not just porn by slashdot-me (Score:1) Sunday March 12 2000, @08:52AM
  • It's not just porn by slashdot-me (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @08:42AM
  • Re:It's not just porn by slashdot-me (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @09:30AM
  • Re:It's not just porn by slashdot-me (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @09:45AM
  • Re: mirroring CyberPatrol banlist by Sponge (Score:1) Thursday March 16 2000, @09:06AM
  • by snookums (48954) on Saturday March 11 2000, @07:19AM (#1210473)

    The solution is to stop thinking in terms of keywords/phrases and manually-compiled lists of sites. These are methods that have been shown to consistently loose.
    My mother is a primary (elementary) school teacher, and the use of CyberPatrol is mandated by the Education Department. It blocks searches for the phrase black cockatoo (a common Australian bird) because it contains the substring black cock. This kind of mistake is unvavodable in a pattern-matching system.
    Decryption of block-lists by Peacfire and friends have shown us quite clearly that these lists are compiled in a manner that is not just sloppy, but actively malicious.

    The solution is to implement a scheme of probability of content type in exactly the same way that Google does it. If lots of known porn sites, or sites with a high occurrence of "bad" words link to a given page, then that page is very probably filled with porn.
    Another technique is to look at combinations of factors. If a page scores highly in "sex" category, but also in "psychology" then it is probably safe to assume that it is a research paper on human sexuality and not porn. Similarly, if a page contains the words nude and supermodel but has no images or hyperlinks, then it is probably innocuous.

    If anyone from Google is listening, how much to license your technology and database?

  • Cyber Patrol by British (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @06:52AM
  • Re:That quote describes the "movement" perfectly by ronfar (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:39AM
  • by ronfar (52216) on Saturday March 11 2000, @07:36AM (#1210476) Journal
    The issue is not with censoreware, folks, the problem is with the use of hidden and encrypted ban lists. If everyone could see and change those lists at will, then censoreware, while still standing zero chance of actually working, would at least be acceptable.
    Actually, though, I think the fact that the software doesn't work is something that people can also hold against it.

    Of course, the bizarre thing about these programs is that they are a product which you sell to people which are designed to cripple their computers. If the software were efficient and trustworthy, of course, we could probably find it acceptable for use by home users who feel a need to install it on their (or their kids) PCs. (I'm not even going to get into the problems of public institutions inflicting these things on people, that's another debate.) However, what we have are a lot of people in the business of giving people a false sense of security.

    I can some it up by paraphrasing (I don't remember the exact quote) an exchange between Homer Simpson and a con man:

    Con Man:Now I could sell you a fancy security system with a lot of bells and whistles that doesn't really work.

    Homer:Yeah, let's get that one!

    The point is, how do these people get away with selling people software that doesn't actually work? I mean I could probably come up with a simple software program that would block exactly 50% of the World Wide Web (without checking content at all, just randomly blocking every other page) and say, "My product blocks more porn, violence and Satanic sites than any of my competitors." I could even (if I were able to hide my identity as a Libertarian rabble rouser) possibly get defenders from these AFA type associations provided my rhetoric was correct. The worst thing though is the lucerative government contracts some of these companies are starting to get. Believe it or not, these companies are probably only getting into this for the money, but once the money starts coming in they will be willing to spend at least some of it to continue pushing these bad laws. The Cyber patrol press release about Australia is particularly troubling in that regard. I don't like it when people commit to censorship for ideological reasons, but I think that when you add people with $ signs in their pupils but who don't have any particular ideological commitment to censorship, you create a really bad situation.

  • Re:There is a solution to this... by Weezul (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:21AM
  • Why you can't read Peacefire: by underwhelm (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @09:18AM
  • Re:There is a solution to this... by Black Marlin (Score:1) Monday March 13 2000, @02:49AM
  • Re:It's all about the list. by CrayDrygu (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @08:36AM
  • Re:This is bad for out children by radja (Score:2) Wednesday March 15 2000, @11:47PM
  • Re:There is a solution to this... by tatsu69 (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:54PM
  • Re:This is bad for out children by crtreece (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @09:56AM
  • Re:Right cause, wrong approach? by crtreece (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @09:37AM
  • Don't shelter kids (Score:3)

    by Voltage_Gate (69001) on Saturday March 11 2000, @06:42AM (#1210485)
    My view is that kids grow up to be intelligent. When they find out what's been hidden from them and why, all it does is create angry and bitter feelings, especially when other kids weren't so sheltered. Some of us willfully go off the wagon and become total party alcoholics. Like I'm making up for what I missed, or maybe I'm just spiteful. Censorship is bad. Posting anonymously.

  • Re:Open Source CensorWare? by BistroMath (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @02:26PM
  • sad, sad, too too true by anonymous cowerd (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @06:38PM
  • Re:Obligatory DMCA comment by anonymous cowerd (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:10PM
  • Re:There is a solution to this... by cheese63 (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:25AM
  • List by talldark (Score:1) Thursday March 16 2000, @04:28AM
  • Re:Sweeping ot under the rug is never a solution by Rubot'o (Score:1) Monday March 20 2000, @06:56AM
  • Re:Sweeping ot under the rug is never a solution by Rubot'o (Score:1) Wednesday March 22 2000, @05:53PM
  • Re:Legal Recourse? by Phrogman (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @09:32AM
  • Re:WatZ Da Point? by MrEfficient (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @08:35AM
  • Re:WatZ Da Point? by MrEfficient (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:07AM
  • Trolling == censorship by Rares Marian (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @02:27PM
  • Re:It doesn't preserve free speech by KDan (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @01:31PM
  • Re:This is bad for out children by omnifrog (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:47AM
  • Re:This is bad for out children by Harri (Score:1) Monday March 13 2000, @12:29AM
  • Re: mirroring CyberPatrol banlist by piotrr (Score:1) Sunday March 19 2000, @11:55PM
  • Its the PARENTS not the censorware by leonids (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @03:46PM
  • Re:This is bad for out children by osolemirnix (Score:1) Monday March 13 2000, @06:32AM
  • Re:Can we see more legal actions? by Trombone8vb (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @09:50AM
  • Re:Man, what's with the colour??? by Trombone8vb (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @09:58AM
  • Re:This is bad for out children by Tise (Score:1) Sunday March 12 2000, @12:26PM
  • Re:What the US Govmnt thinks about anti-censorware by Rudolfo (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @09:39AM
  • Re:WatZ Da Point? by friedo (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @10:06AM
  • Re: Right cause, wrong approach? by moeffju (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @08:32AM
  • Re:WatZ Da Point? by G.A. Heath (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @08:02PM
  • hmm by res0 (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @06:16AM
  • Re:It's not just porn by luckykaa (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @10:13AM
  • Why the sheet music site was banned by luckykaa (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @11:51AM
  • What is the big deal? by esobofh (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:27AM
  • Re:Man, what's with the colour??? by esobofh (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:28AM
  • List not needed for lawsuit! by www.sorehands.com (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @11:28AM
  • Re:This is bad for our children by latcarf (Score:2) Saturday March 11 2000, @09:37AM
  • Re:Legal Recourse? by Jebediah21 (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:35PM
  • Re:Legal Recourse? by Jebediah21 (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:37PM
  • Legal Recourse? by Chester K (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @06:27AM
  • Re:Legal Recourse? by Chester K (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @07:14AM
  • Re:corperate drug use by citizen_bongo (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @11:44AM
  • Re:This is bad for out children by Ig0r (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @04:55PM
  • Re:There is a solution to this... by Izubachi (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @08:38AM
  • by Izubachi (159058) on Saturday March 11 2000, @06:49AM (#1210524) Homepage
    I think most people agree that, in certain ways, "censorware" can be useful. No one really wants kids to easily see hard core porn, do they? But, the way that the companies who produce this type of product are lazily progamming, it's blocking the wrong type of sites. There's a solution, if we all don't like what this is doing to youths trying to access the internet, then let's make an alternative. Perhaps someone could start a project to produce a GOOD "censorware" product, one that's engineered to block the right kind of sites. I'm sure it's possible, and if the program was made availiable freely that would be a great added bonus. "Why buy these expensive, commercial nanny products that block the wrong kinds of sites, when you can get our program which does it correctly for free?". Perhaps I'm just wishfully thinking here, but until an alternative is presented, people are going to side with the "censorware" companies.
  • The Breaking of Cyber Patrol by a poor scribbler (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @10:20AM
  • Re:Do shelter kids by thewhitedragon (Score:1) Saturday March 11 2000, @08:31AM
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