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Egypt Calls for Bandwidth Rationing 182

I Don't Believe in Imaginary Property writes "Egypt's Ministry of Communications and Information Technology has called upon its citizens to ration their internet usage. This comes after two of its three undersea fiber optic links were recently severed. The cut cables have caused communication difficulties for millions of people throughout the Middle East. Ministry spokesman Mohammed Taymur was quoted as saying, 'People should know how to use the Internet because people who download music and films are going to affect businesses who have more important things to do.'"
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Egypt Calls for Bandwidth Rationing

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 01, 2008 @04:10AM (#22258696)
    The cables in the mideast have all been cut on purpose. When they were first laid out, we did not have as good interception equipment as is now available. However, going down and installing equipment capable of intercepting, duplicating, and analyzing their traffic without increasing latency in the slightest would require an unexplained interruption in service while it was being installed. While the lines are being repaired, further up in a difficult-to-reach location or hub, the NSA is now installing this equipment. Afterwards, they can copy all data sent through the cable without raising any eyebrows. There will be no proof.
  • by psychicsword ( 1036852 ) * <The.psychicsword@com> on Friday February 01, 2008 @04:26AM (#22258762)
    It seems that Internet is now making its way up with water food and shelter for human necessities :P
  • Re:No more pr0n (Score:5, Interesting)

    by eiapoce ( 1049910 ) on Friday February 01, 2008 @04:35AM (#22258824)

    No more pr0n for Egypt. Or 2-6 pics per person per day. Poor chaps.
    You didn't mean PORN, you meant SEX!

    That's accordin to google labs, porn is for UK, New Zealand and Australia where getting sex isn't a problem while sofisticated porn is difficult to see http://www.google.com/trends?q=porn&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 [google.com] - Sex is clearly what Egiptians are looking for http://www.google.com/trends?q=sex&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 [google.com]
  • Next up... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Icarium ( 1109647 ) on Friday February 01, 2008 @04:39AM (#22258840)
    ...they'll be asking road users to give way to trucks and business executives on the roads.

    Thier concern over how this could impact thier commerce is understandable, but this is not the answer.
  • Ah, good times (Score:3, Interesting)

    by istartedi ( 132515 ) on Friday February 01, 2008 @04:41AM (#22258852) Journal

    When I was in dial-up tech support in the late 90s, we would occasionally get customers who were furious because "my business depends on the internet". Of course we couldn't tell customers what we really thought, so we would all stand outside on break, and be like "your business ha-hah, depends on ha-ha, the INTERNET???". "Well then, you should not have depended on a single provider, if it was really that critical".

    It's one thing for some idiot pre-bubble day trader who fancied himself a "business man" to not understand that. In this case, it's a whole region. OK, maybe I'm being a bit harsh. Maybe they're where we were in the 90s. It seems like the whole network would go dark every few weeks or so back then. In the call center they would put up a big sign that said something like "MAE East is down". I haven't seen anything like that for a while. Maybe they'll put in some redundant routes after this, which is probably what happened here.

  • by darkmeridian ( 119044 ) <william.chuangNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Friday February 01, 2008 @04:44AM (#22258860) Homepage
    There's no need to do that with these cables. They have at end somewhere, right? So what the NSA/bad guys do is to tap the ends of the wires. The ISP sometimes helps.
  • by hoojus ( 935220 ) on Friday February 01, 2008 @04:47AM (#22258870)

    appealed to the public's common sense
    Never heard of this what is it? Even so just because the public are using it for entertainment purposes this is no less important than business use. If these people are paying the same amount then they should have equal use. If business are paying more and the contracts (to ISPs) specify selective throttling then I have no problem. But I know that my ISP has no signed contract with me that allows them to put other customer's needs before mine. Make no mistake whether big business or home user they are both customers and should be treated equally.
  • Re:Same Story (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Actually, I do RTFA ( 1058596 ) on Friday February 01, 2008 @04:55AM (#22258908)

    Here's the oft repeated story again, instead of trying to improve infrastructure and services (like backup lines for instance) the consumers are the ones left holding the bag. In fact they're already using the word 'rationing'. Why is it that almost always its the consumers who bear the burden of whatever boo boo's made by the service providers ?

    This isn't a private company, it's the entire country's connection to the rest of the world. As in, the government. And there are redundancies, that's why they can still connect. Two of the three main cables (each over a mile apart) failed simultanously.

    On the other hand though the statement is worded unsurprisingly inept, i guess the sentiment here might be to take stock of the usage and avoiding unnecessary bandwidth hogging for a while. Though what's unnecessary should be left to the consumers to define for themselves. A simple request for 'help' and 'understanding' would have been more useful without generating all the negative publicity that I'm sure this will generate.

    That's pretty much what they did. They said there was limited bandwidth, and asked people not to download music and movies because it would eat up bandwidth that might be needed for contining business purposes.

    If you read all his comments, it is quite polite and understanding of individuals' rights. You might not think it was polite because it was translated from Arabic. Egypt is a different country than the United States. Many other countries speak languages besides English.

  • Re:No more pr0n (Score:4, Interesting)

    by sakdoctor ( 1087155 ) on Friday February 01, 2008 @05:19AM (#22258998) Homepage
    This might be a more useful comparison. This plot of porn and sex, ranked by sex, shows the countries that are most affected.

    And yes, Egypt ranks first, followed by India.

    http://www.google.com/trends?q=porn%2C+sex&ctab=0&geo=all&geor=all&date=all&sort=1 [google.com]
  • by 1u3hr ( 530656 ) on Friday February 01, 2008 @06:47AM (#22259372)
    But I know that my ISP has no signed contract with me that allows them to put other customer's needs before mine. Make no mistake whether big business or home user they are both customers and should be treated equally.

    Good luck with that.

    A year ago some cables running south of Taiwan were cut by an earthquake. In Hong Kong the immediate effect was to slow down access. But a few hours later, they had reconfigured it so that domestic users, like myself, working at home, got ZERO connectivity, as they gave almost all the capacity to their business clients. I couldn't even check my email, on Yahoo, for a week. And you know that businesses were just sending the same bloated powerpoint files and videos to each other.

    IMHO, they should give a minimum connectivity to everyone so you can use email, the most vital of all services. But when they have their big customers screaming at them about how slow their service is, they'll cheerfully cut off home users completely, knowing most have no alternative.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 01, 2008 @07:12AM (#22259478)
    Well if you work on a so-called "global" team. You get to find this out first-hand. Americans are perhaps not the most common-sensical people on the planet, but they certainly have second place.

    Middle east is simple : you do what your dad does. If he was a nobel laureate and you failed kindergarten, you head the university. Needless to say, this arrangement has it's problems. Never ask anyone in Egypt why they have a job. They are very open about this you know.

    In kuwait the "senior technical designer" of the local telco did not know what a router was. "how do I recognize one ?" - no joke. And I had to explain to the last pakistani that called that just connecting your pc to an -unconnected- router is not going to get you on the internet. Then we got started on bgp. Needless to say, it took a while.
  • by mikael ( 484 ) on Friday February 01, 2008 @10:24AM (#22260486)
    With French Pay-As-You-go 3G Sim cards for mobile internet (Mobicarte), you top up your account by purchasing scratch cards from your local supermarket. Scratch the card to reveal a security code, then use SMS to send the code to the account managers. No need to use or disclose your credit card details.
  • by Schraegstrichpunkt ( 931443 ) on Friday February 01, 2008 @11:18AM (#22261248) Homepage

    This site (Warning! Informative non-conspiracy site!) describes the simple details of fiber-optic coupling by bending one fiber.

    A few things:

    • Undersea cables are big bundles of fibre, not single fibres, right?
    • When you bend a fibre, there is an increase in the attenuation visible at the receiving end. This might interfere with reception, but even if it doesn't, both sides likely have an optical time domain reflectometer [wikipedia.org], which will can tell them where the bend is.

    The NSA could do it, but would likely be detectable. On the other hand, if they cut the cable, then later installed a sniffer at the break while repairing the cable, then the people on each end would ignore the spike in the OTDR plot, because they would say "oh, that's just a break that has been repaired. It's always been there.".

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