Novell Moves Away From ReiserFS

VSquared56 writes, "Novell announced a shift in the default filesystem from ReiserFS to ext3 for users of its SuSE Enterprise Linux. This news comes shortly after Hans Reiser's arrest, though Novell says the decision was being considered long before. Though Novell will continue supporting ReiserFS 3, it claims ext3 is more stable and will 'soon' match performance with the newer ReiserFS 4. What implications will this have for SuSE users, and ReiserFS's future as a whole?"

Hurm

[OverlordQ]

What implications will this have for SuSE users

Well, just a guess . . . but they might have to use a new filesystem!

Have you ever heard the phrase:

[Anonymous Coward]

"Rats are the first to desert a sinking ship"?

The Slashdot Way...

[xquark]

I think is to have a poll as to measure people's opinions
about the guy's innocence. With options such as
1. He is innocent
2. He is guilty
3. Cowboyneal did it etc..

Re:xfs for ever

[arth1]

why not move to xfs? it's a very good performance file system.

XFS is high performance especially for large files and multitasked access.
reiserfs (3) is high performance especially for small files and singletasked access.
JFS is also a good journalled file system with many nifty features, although perhaps not as mature as XFS.

unless there a rumours of the author being a murderer of course.

Neither X nor J have been accused of murder, to my knowledge.

All hail J.

Regards,
--
*Art

You're forgetting

[joe_n_bloe]

4. The bitch set me up (Marion Barry)
5. The glove's too tight (OJ)
6. Is that Chewbacca here? (Chewbacca defense)

Re:The Slashdot Way...

[Anonymous Coward]

There's a logical explaination for everything [geekz.co.uk]

Re:Let this be a lesson to you all

[Anonymous Coward]

Crime does not pay!

Ok, ReiserFS might be a bit on the slow and unstable side, but I would not actually call it a crime.

Re:The Slashdot Way...

[dvice_null]

I think anyone capable of writing a filesystem is capable of killing a person. But also anyone writing an open source software is too kind to kill a person.

Re:xfs for ever

[eneville]

what about a shared pr0n collection with afs?

Re:conversion

[Ant P.]

Yes, in fact someone made a command to do just that: `cp`

Re:xfs for ever

[Reverend528]

only to find that every file on their XFS filesystems has been filled with zeroes.

A similar thing happened to me, but it was just one file, /dev/zero. I even tried switching filesystems, but that didn't fix it.

Re:It's Deja Vu All over Again

[Anonymous Coward]

The name "reiserfs" is tainted, whether that's rational or not.

Apparently it is to be called "icefs" in Etch.

Something to do with Hans not being available to QA patches by the Debian kernel team.

Re:xfs for ever

[chill]

That would be the A to Z collection of pr0n!

Re:Thins aren't looking up for Hans.

[NDPTAL85]

What, everyone is supposed to use cash on the off chance that they might kill their spouse so that it will be harder for the police to figure out if you really did it or not?

Even for slashdot thats some fucked up logic.

No one laughed last time...

[Chapter80]

I wonder if Reiser 4 "file" system is hidden inside of a cake.

Re:xfs for ever

[byolinux]

Sounds like bad hardware to me. Send your hard disk to me for analysis.

Re:xfs for ever

[jazman_777]

Slashdot: News for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. Anecdote Battles.

Re:It's Deja Vu All over Again

[tomhudson]

From a marketing point of view, Novell won't want to associated with it either. If they show support for him, and he is found guilty, it's a marketing nightmare for Novell.

Are you kidding - this stuff practically writes itself.

1. "Novell and ReiserFS - we have THE killer linux filesystem!"
2. "Novell and ReiserFS - your files are as secure as the county lockup."
3. "Novell and ReiserFS - while the jury's out, we continue give you a choice of file systems"
4. "Novell and ReiserFS - exabytes of data - and only one piece of information missing ..."
5. "Novell and ReiserFS - no dead inodes, no dead files, no dead bodies ..."
6. "Novell and ReiserFS - what the fsck?"

Re:xfs for ever

[Anonymous Coward]

J was murdered by being nailed to an X. These days in the U we murder murderers (and alleged murderers) by strapping them supine to an X and injecting them with chemicals. But we say we follow the teachings of J.

Re:Just rename it

[kimvette]

I hope he is not guilty; I hope that his wife simply tried to pull a scam and is actually OK and is found hiding in Russia or somewhere. Even though it'd have been a scummy thing for her to do, at least their kids would not have lost their mother. That's the single worst part of the whole thing -- oh wait, am I saying "think of the children?" Shoot me now, please!

Re:xfs for ever

[alba7]

If you don't know what you are doing, do not listen to zealots. Stick with the distro default -- which is EXT3/

If you don't know what you are doing, you should stick with the default "distro".
And Microsoft recommends NTFS.

Re:It's Deja Vu All over Again

[Anonymous Coward]

You missed:

"Novell and ReiserFS - Once you're with Reiser, you'll never want to leave."

I almost posted that joke hours ago, but was too ashamed to until I read your post. Thanks for lowering the bar for us all.

You know, what, bar's still not quite low enough. Let's make sure that "Post Anonymously" is checked...

Re:xfs for ever

[NormalVisual]

The U just doesn't remember the teachings of J because K pulled out the flashy thing and used it on them.

Re:It's Deja Vu All over Again

[Anonymous Coward]

Friday afternoon, a good friend with whom I wished to become even closer came to visit, to have Linux installed on his vintage PC.

No DVD drive, that much was known, so I had dutifully prepared a SuSE (Novell) boot CD for the installation.

The plan was to boot from that CD, and then do the installation via the network (the plan was to connect his computer to mine using a gay cable).

No luck, his computer had SCSI CD drives, which its BIOS was unable to boot from :-(

Next try: boot from floppy.

Unfortunately good floppy disks are hard to come by, and I had to go DEEP into my closet to find some. Predictably, while digging, all kinds of other stuff fell out: lube, condoms, and a book "Outing Yourself -- How to come out as a lesbian or gay to your family, friends, and coworkers". That was not a big problem, as the good friend was on the bus too.

A bigger problem was that among all those floppies, most have gone bad during all these years...

Eventually, I could dig up enough good floppies to make SuSE boot floppies and boot my good friend's PC from them.

Next surprise: the network card was an ISA card. Arghhh! No way to autodetect that!

Ok, so next try with SuSE 9.3 (of which I had CDs) rather than 10.1 (for which I only had DVD).

All went fine until it started formatting the disk: bad sectors (did I tell you that this was old refurbished hardware). No panic: the errors were near the end of the disk, so I just shrunk the partition, and did a mkfs.re... no, no, I can't type the name of a murderer. So I typed mkfs.ext3 manually, mounted the partition, and clicked "ignore error" into the install menu.

Install went mostly smoothly, until reboot. "Cannot mount root filesystem". Oops.

Yes, of course, SuSE was not really expecting ext3, it was not even included into its initrd. In the meantime, it started to become late, and I was having another meeting in the evening. Ok, so I had to shove in the 8 floppies to boot the rescue system, and include ext3. Fortunately, despite their name, floppies are still stiff enough to enter the hole, hehe.

Still this filesystem episode ate about half an hour of our time, enough that by now it was too late to do anything other than Linux. Bummer! It could have been such a hot afternoon, were it not for that wretched filesystem!

Re:You're forgetting

[identity0]

7. "I'm just a patsy-OH NO I'VE BEEN SHOT!" (Oswald defence)
8. "You want the Truth? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!" (A Few Good Men defence)
9. "I'm telling you, it wasn't me! It was a one-armed man! You've got to believe me!" (The Fugitive defence)
10. "These are not the evidence you are lookiing for" (Obi-wan defense)
11. "That depends on what the definition of 'kill' is." (The Clinton defence)
12. "Putting this 'evidence' out for anyone to read is helping our terrorist enemies." (The Bush defence)