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MacBook Announcement Expected on Tuesday 352

wwhsgrad2002 writes "Both ThinkSecret and Apple Insider are reporting that Apple could hold a press conference as early as Tuesday, May 9th, to announce their new line of MacBooks. The laptop will be the Intel-based successor to the company's popular iBook line. The 13.3-inch widescreen MacBook is expected to sport Core Duo processors from Intel Corp and pack novelties such as a completely magnetic latching system, built in iSight video camera, and MagSafe power adapter. Additionally, each MacBook is expected to come bundled with Apple's Front Row and PhotoBooth software applications. A coding glitch with Apple's Web site has all but confirmed the MacBook moniker for the new consumer laptop."
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MacBook Announcement Expected on Tuesday

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  • by mccalli ( 323026 ) on Saturday May 06, 2006 @12:14PM (#15277242) Homepage
    It's the price I'm interested in. Last time there was a move from G4-based devices to Core Something devices (Solo or Duo) was the Mac Mini. And the price went up quite a lot for that.

    Cheers,
    Ian

  • by soupforare ( 542403 ) on Saturday May 06, 2006 @12:15PM (#15277246)
    Please, don't put some toilet video card in the macbook. I'm looking at you Intel Integrated.
    If you're going after the college kids market AT ALL, the macbook has to be able to game at least most of the time.
  • by ad454 ( 325846 ) on Saturday May 06, 2006 @12:34PM (#15277332) Journal
    It would be nice if Apple was less focused on the US car driving market and considered releasing a sub-notebook (<0.9kg) for those of us that walk, fly, and/or use public transit, and need to always carry around a computer. I have desktop computers with large displays at home and work, so I don't need to lug around a monstrosity, when I need a computer during commute and when traveling, just something small that easily fits in my purse.

    As a frequent business traveler, I have been buying and using small Intel based Japanese sub-notebooks for 8 years, and would love to buy a Apple notebook that can run MacOSX, especially now that I can use bootcamp to multiboot other OS's as well. But I don't see that happening anytime soon.

    Maybe Apple should licence an OQO or similar sized device and port their OS to it, if they aren't interested in building a sub-notebook from scratch.
  • by hey ( 83763 ) on Saturday May 06, 2006 @12:34PM (#15277334) Journal
    ... then we don't have to guess.
  • Re:MacBook (Score:1, Insightful)

    by chrismear ( 535657 ) on Saturday May 06, 2006 @12:35PM (#15277340) Homepage

    This is a great example of the kind of consumer confusion that I think we're likely to see once there are both 'MacBook Pro's and 'MacBook's on the market. Great naming scheme, Apple!

  • Two reasons, IMO (Score:5, Insightful)

    by DavidinAla ( 639952 ) on Saturday May 06, 2006 @12:37PM (#15277350)
    First, Apple needs to get schools looking at these models for next year. If the company waits much later, schools are already going to make plans based on existing models.

    Second, I doubt Apple thinks it will be upstaged in ANY way by Nintendo -- and I think that judgment will be correct. Many gamers and geeks will be paying attention to Nintendo's announcement, but an Apple announcement will greatly upstage it in terms of media attention, IMO.

    David
  • Re:Why during E3? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Y-Crate ( 540566 ) on Saturday May 06, 2006 @12:39PM (#15277357)
    "I understand that they're different markets, but all eyes are going to be on Nintendo that day. They could easily put it off a week and get 100% of the attention."
    Right now we are in the beginning of the 2007 educational purchasing season. This is when school districts/universities/etc all over the U.S. are putting together their orders for the next school year. Getting the MacBook to market as soon as possible is extremely important to Apple's bottom line.

    Nintendo's game console is going to get a lot of attention, but in the whole scheme of things, getting the MacBooks out this week rather than next week could mean millions of dollars in additional revenue.
  • Not everybody... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Savage-Rabbit ( 308260 ) on Saturday May 06, 2006 @12:44PM (#15277386)
    By virtue of its name the MacBook is a low-end version of the Pro. Fair enough, but the specs are pretty much going to be identical to the Pro version I guess, except with a lower end GFX card, less storage, smaller screen, slower CPU. I've suddenly stopped finding Apple hardware releases interesting.

    ... is a Hardware fetishist. The specs of the MacBook Pro vs the lower end MacBook will not be all that much different than those of the G4 PowerBook were when compared to the old iBook line. The MacBook [Pro] still holds it's own when compared to the vast majority of PC laptops available on the market today in terms of innovative design. With a handful of exceptions the competitors still look like bricks by comparison which was already true when they were compared to the G4 PowerBooks three years ago. Not that the Hardware is the most attractive part of Apple computers anyway it's the OS, it's ease of use and the various specialist applications that the Macintosh platform excels at... and lets not forget the complete absence (so far) of malware.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 06, 2006 @01:02PM (#15277454)
    That's completely unsupportable reasoning. PowerBooks [apple-history.com] existed for many years before they had PowerPC chips in them!
  • Yeah (Score:5, Insightful)

    by metamatic ( 202216 ) on Saturday May 06, 2006 @01:05PM (#15277470) Homepage Journal
    I have an old G3 iBook, and it's too big. To get me to buy another portable they need to offer something comparable to a Sony VAIO 505 in form factor. Or preferably, a tablet Mac, but I doubt Steve's biases will let that happen.
  • by jpellino ( 202698 ) on Saturday May 06, 2006 @01:08PM (#15277486)
    Cause the PC laptop offerings have heads spinning? Please.
    Or because there's no tablet (hint- they won't do it until they get it right - after two PC stumbles, who can blame them)?
    Or because the Apple market has held its own and continues to build eas of use and value? Count me in.

    Case in point. My wife just bought the latest Acer which has the touted features of:
    - brightview screen (a shiny piece of plastic that produces glare and fingerprints at an astounding rate)
    - constant light for the bluetooth status (thanks - eats batteries)
    - constant light for the wifi status (ditto batteries)
    - constant light for the battery, num lock, cap lock (all of which are mirrored in the taskbar anyway)
    - three USB ports Woohoo! One more than an iBook!
    - a four cell battery which is an eight cell battery with four cells torn out. Honestly, you can squeeze the case and feel where the missing cells are supposed to be.
    - 2.5 hour battery life if you spring for the 8 cell battery separately.
    - Speed. It's a 2.something, if I turn off all the fancy XP graphics under system performance, it can almost keep up with my 1.33 iBook for general use with a few apps open.
    - software. none. after loading her up with picasa and itunes, whenever something mildly novel comes up, she shuts the lid and asks me to do it on the iBook. And she knows how to work a PC - she does it all day at her job. She's a wiz at office + access, but for real world stuff, the integration just isn't there - they made this point in one of the new apple ads - and it's about time.

    I'd rather spend my time getting the work done than figuring out the workaround or forking over the license fee for getting it done on a PC.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 06, 2006 @01:19PM (#15277533)
    Apple Stores are hosting a pre-release event for the Red Hot Chili Peppers on Tuesday, May 9th. MacBooks will be released on the same day.
  • by simpsone ( 830935 ) on Saturday May 06, 2006 @01:20PM (#15277540)
    The most recent round of rumor sites that I have been looking at have started talking about a MacBook Thin. I haven't seen any actual details about this speculated product, but perhaps your wish will becoming true in the near future.
  • by Shivetya ( 243324 ) on Saturday May 06, 2006 @01:35PM (#15277603) Homepage Journal
    Seeing that Intel is pushing Duos very hard. Dell is delivering Duo notebooks at the 699 price point, mostly when you catch them on one of their "sales". I have seen 15.4" versions with default options hitting as low as 649 for a 1.66 Duo.

    Now some will say that Apple does not have to consider Dell or XP notebooks in their plans I think they do. The price segment the new MacBook will be headed into will be up against the bulk of the XP systems out there. Also take note that many college age kids will look at prices and features. Since most work can be done just fine on XP systems for school work Apple will have to consider their offering closely.

    Things I expect. At minimum a 13.3 screen, probably a 14 as those screens are in good supply. Base model will be a Core-Solo and max will probably be a 1.83 Duo. Integrated graphics will probably be default but they honestly should at least offer a X1400 256mb option as this feature will appeal to many college age users as well as those looking for a lower priced system to run both X and XP. We probably won't see drives as large as the Pro and will see a 4200rpm in the base model. Gigabit ethernet, USB2, FW400 and a cardslot are a given (chipsets are common for all, it probably would be more to actually get an old 10/100 chipset). figure a good keyboard without backlight but I expect iSight.

    Get a x1400 256mb, Duo 166, 512 base (2gb max) out the door for 1299 and I will be all over it.
  • by bob122989 ( 912229 ) on Saturday May 06, 2006 @01:43PM (#15277649)
    Won't they have RHCP's do a live show at the event just after announcing that you can buy it from itunes on your new macbook?
  • by SeaFox ( 739806 ) on Saturday May 06, 2006 @01:52PM (#15277685)
    I have to say that apple has nice packaging but they are bum (to use a technical term). They don't support the software I want.

    Can you elaborate on that? If you mean they don't support Windows software, well that's like saying the Apple orchard doesn't support orange juice production. If they don't support some specific piece MacOSX written software package then I would have to ask since when is it the OS maker's job to support the software? That's the software company's job. I don't complain to Microsoft when Firefox crashes on my XP machine.
  • Good luck (Score:3, Insightful)

    by StarKruzr ( 74642 ) on Saturday May 06, 2006 @02:12PM (#15277770) Journal
    Expect Intel toilet-graphics in all but the most powerful MacBook, if even that. Remember, this is their budget machine. The toilet-graphics will allow them to drop the price OR make more of a margin on the computer. Either way, they win.

    This is super disappointing to me. I was really hoping Apple would come out with a small tablet with a discrete graphics controller. I love mine [whiningdog.net], but would get rid of it in a second if Apple came out with something just like it.
  • Re:Is AMD faster ? (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 06, 2006 @02:16PM (#15277790)
    No.
  • Linux on Macs (Score:3, Insightful)

    by falconwolf ( 725481 ) <falconsoaring_2000 AT yahoo DOT com> on Saturday May 06, 2006 @02:18PM (#15277796)

    Fortunately, Linux runs on them, so you can have the best of both worlds: Apple hardware and Linux software.

    In a couple of weeks I plan on getting one of the new 17" Macbook Pros and was thinking about setting it up for dualboot. As it has BSD under the hood though I don't really think it's needed. Installing Linux on a new Mac is more a desire than a need the way I see it.

    Falcon
  • Re:MacBook (Score:5, Insightful)

    by masklinn ( 823351 ) <slashdot.org@mCO ... t minus language> on Saturday May 06, 2006 @02:22PM (#15277820)

    It is in fact a great example of name: as one stated elsewhere, one of the issues Apple had in the past was that upon reaching the Apple Store website people would see Powerbooks and their extremely high prices, and not necessarily notice the ibooks. Here, when the potential customer sees Macbook Pro for $2k, either he goes "great, i'll take 5" or he sees the Pro, considers that he is not one and deduces by himself that there may be a non-pro line more fit to his wallet.

    Customer Confusion? Not a snowball's chance in hell, and "Pro" suffixes are extremely common and well understood by the public: it's better, more powerful, more featured, but it's also much more expensive.

    And nowadays you only need 3 letters to say all that.

  • by masklinn ( 823351 ) <slashdot.org@mCO ... t minus language> on Saturday May 06, 2006 @02:28PM (#15277848)

    Are you aware that 15" are fuck fail for portable laptop? (and 17" are even worse of course). That's why some people are waiting for a Macbook (Pro or not) at or under 13" as their personal saviour.

    10-14" is where you get laptops, over that it's undersized desktop with batteries.

  • by chocolatetrumpet ( 73058 ) <slashdot.jonathanfilbert@com> on Saturday May 06, 2006 @02:33PM (#15277865) Homepage Journal
    MacBook has the word "MAC" in it. That's Apple's very expensive brand name, and they would do very well to promote it. They learned this from the auto industry.

    "What kind of car do you drive?"

    No one says "oh, I drive an SC 430." They just say, "I drive a Lexus.

    Focus the brand!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 06, 2006 @03:33PM (#15278111)
    "Pro" does not mean "bigger screen." I want a 12" or 13" laptop (actually, I'd take a 10" or 11" laptop if it was superhighrez), but I also want non-integrated graphics, backlit keyboard, gigabit ethernet, lots of video out options, and so on.

    The most important feature in a laptop is portability. I don't want a fucking iBook. I want the smallest fully-featured PowerBook imaginable, and, ideally, I want it to have 1600x1200 even on a 12" screen (OK, perhaps that's hyperbole. But 1280x1024 at minimum. Fuck 1024x768.)

    Why can't Apple just make it happen? I don't want to lug around a 15" machine just to get all the real features.

  • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 ) on Saturday May 06, 2006 @03:38PM (#15278137)
    Um, Apple always outsourced their CPUs. Motorola/Freescale made the G3s and 4s, and IBM made the G5s. Before that Motorola made the 680x0s. Apple was a member of the PowerPC alliance and got some input that way, but Motorola and IBM made the chips. The extent of Apple's pull was revealed when IBM didn't produce a notebook G5 or even keep up with Steve's processor speed promises, and Motorola stagnated on the G4.

    You seem to think that the processor makes a Mac. It doesn't. Apple may well keep up with Intel speed bumps but that doesn't mean they have to make a big product announcement every time. Apple commonly tweaks their product lines with little or no fanfare and their real innovation has always been outside the processor.

    Rosetta chip? What?
  • by Reaperducer ( 871695 ) on Saturday May 06, 2006 @05:20PM (#15278464)
    How can dell sell monitors at 200 dollars but apple can't?

    You mean like the 200 Dell monitors my company bought two years ago that are so dim now that you have to squint to see them for the first two hours until they warm up?

    Apple has never tried to compete on price. It's always been about quality with Apple. Hopefully that won't change. Windows users are so used to being abused by cheap prices and shoddy products that they forget what a quality is like.
  • I put up with control-click under System 7, under OS 8, under OS 9, and it's ALWAYS been one of the things that pissed me off the most about Apple... their declaration that one mouse button was enough for anyone, alongside this ongoing addition of extra mouse buttons on the keyboard. It's purely hypocritical... if remembering whether to use the right or left button is Too Hard, then remembering whether to use control, shift, command, or option is no improvement.

It's a naive, domestic operating system without any breeding, but I think you'll be amused by its presumption.

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