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No More Next Big Thing? 564

CthuluOverlord writes "CNET News.com is reporting that Nicholas Donofrio, Big Blue's executive vice president of innovation and technology, made a declaration on Tuesday in an interview with ZDNet Asia. 'The fact is that innovation was a little different in the 20th century. It's not easy (now) to come up with greater and different things. If you're looking for the next big thing, stop looking. There's no such thing as the next big thing.'" Donofrio goes on to explain that he sees innovation as being services or social changes nowadays, rather than simply a better moustrap. What's the verdict? Is tech innovation dead?
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No More Next Big Thing?

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  • by jandrese ( 485 ) * <kensama@vt.edu> on Thursday March 16, 2006 @02:04PM (#14935046) Homepage Journal
    Yeah, you often see this from people who come up with a good idea but then are stuck trying to come up with another. Instead of the obvious: "I can't think of anything good", they make an ass out of themselves and proclaim that "Everything has been invented already, there's nothing left!"
  • Voicing my opinion (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Quirk ( 36086 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @02:04PM (#14935052) Homepage Journal
    There is one killer app to come. Voice recognition, especially, subvocal input is the next big tech innovation. Lots has been done but no one has come close enough to nailing it to create/capture the market.

    More generally biomimetics and innovation from molecular biology will eclipse the innovation that has followed upon the IT revolution.

  • by CatWrangler ( 622292 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @02:04PM (#14935058) Journal
    Cold Fusion could happen by 2099 no? We could also cure cancer, AIDS, and a whole host of other things. Yes, alot of "invention" right now is actually synergy more than anything else, but there still is progress out there. Biotech, human genome project, robotics, etc. Now with current leadership in place, we might be enjoying these things on beach front property in Topeka, Kansas, but all the same, invention will continue.
  • A funny quote (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Bull999999 ( 652264 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @02:05PM (#14935062) Journal
    "Research ! A mere excuse for idleness; it has never achieved, and will never achieve any results of the slightest value."
    -- Benjamin Jowett (1817-93), British theologian.
  • Re: Yes Next Thing (Score:5, Interesting)

    by pilgrim23 ( 716938 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @02:05PM (#14935070)
    The advancement of the arts, from year to year, taxes our
    credulity and seems to presage the arrival of that period
    when human improvement must end.

    Henry Elsworth
    US Patent Office, 1844
  • The experts say... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by raist_online ( 522240 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @02:06PM (#14935092) Homepage
    Greets! I ran a panel on this in 2003 at the Hyertext conference [http://www.ht03.org/panels.html#panel1 [ht03.org] ] I think Pete came closest to getting it right - predicting a 'hot or not' for the general web - now see Digg [http://www.digg.com/ [digg.com] ]. We also ran a special issue linked to the panel in JoDI [http://jodi.tamu.edu/?vol=5&iss=1 [tamu.edu] ]
  • the opposite (Score:5, Interesting)

    by opencity ( 582224 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @02:09PM (#14935121) Homepage
    Got it exactly wrong. The curve, whether or not you like Kurzweil, is headed up. The interesting part is the next 'fracturing of the equilibrium' will, as usual, be military. It took from 1905 to 1944 for the last one to reach the common man. Now we're at the mercy of Moores' law so instead of 39 years ... 39 minutes?

    (please excuse the mixed buzzwords)
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 16, 2006 @02:10PM (#14935132)
    Yes. Yes.

    But what happens when it turns out to be true someday?

    There is no mathematical proof that everything can be invented hasn't been.

    For hundreds of years, people kept saying flying machines were right around the corner. People who claimed they could build one were ridiculed. Until finally someone did.

    My point is simple .. don't say something, anything, won't happen when it's could merely be delayed. Especially when you haven't contrary evidence.

    Historical trend is hardly proof or evidence. People make this mistake all the time. Just because the Sun has shined for the past millenia doesnt mean the Sun won't nova someday.
  • Re: Yes Next Thing (Score:3, Interesting)

    by pilgrim23 ( 716938 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @02:11PM (#14935143)
    Oh yeah, and this one too:
    Everything that can be invented has been invented.
    Charles H. Duell

    U.S. Commissioner for Patents
    1899

  • by Weaselmancer ( 533834 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @02:11PM (#14935155)

    And I'll even go so far as to say the reason why there will be no next big thing - it's our broken-ass patent system.

    Someone, somewhere out there has part of your brilliant idea buried in a vaguely worded submarine patent. Soon as you hit the big time - wham. Some greedy patent grubbing jerk will sue you for daring to make use of "his idea" that he's been sitting on not using for the last half a dozen years or so.

    Only big business has enough lawyers these days to explore uncharted waters. Which means that business will be in charge of innovation. Which means that no product/idea/whatever will get the green light without a financial analysis conducted by a committee of people who will 99.9% of the time tend to be conservative, or maybe even just plain clueless as to the new idea's implications.

    The days of the solo guy in the garage coming up with the thing that changes the world are over.

  • by Billly Gates ( 198444 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @02:20PM (#14935262) Journal
    What has come out in the 21st century?

    The Ipod and the mp3 player market, much more advanced 3d video cards, composite 3d accelerated desktops, new video players and microized computers that are pda in size (blackberry, Ipod video, Orgami, etc), a shift from dynamic cgi websites to interactive ones wiht complex javascript and ajax, and the $100 computer that is quite feature filled.

    Whats in the futre? Better wifi and other internet technologies that are wireless, physics accelerators in 3d cards, 3d interfaces, and seemingless networked clusters or SSI(single system image) where you can hook up several computers that act as one whole computer image rather than the traditional cluster.

    Also phones are going to take off as well with bluetooth and other technologies. The europeans already have it because they are not under monopolies who like to sell trusted drm midi ringtones for $3.

  • ORLY (Score:5, Interesting)

    by RyoShin ( 610051 ) <tukaro.gmail@com> on Thursday March 16, 2006 @02:25PM (#14935317) Homepage Journal
    I would like to throw my weight out there and call Donofrio an idiot, at least in relation to this statement. There are still many Next Big Things that we have yet to achieve (though the ability to achieve such may or may not exist, but we won't know till we try.)

    A short list:
    - Hovering vehicles
    - Anti gravity (which is probably related to the above)
    - hand held energy weapons
    - teleportation
    - economical space travel (think "to mars", or, at the least, consumer viability for going to the moon)
    - curing cancer
    - controlling computers with our brains
    - mechanical prostetics that respond either to brain waves or nerves (we're right on the edge of this one- I believe someone had a really basic, bulky unit working, it just has to become available for the common man)
    - growing of artificial organs for transplants (goodbye organ donors!)
    - interactive holographic interfaces
    - solar energy that's +60% effecient

    Okay, maybe that list isn't so short. Sure, many of those fields are being worked on, but nothing concrete and ready for mass use has been created (to my knowledge.) All of those items will help to advance the human race in terms of how we live and effect our environment, as well as populating into space.

    Also, I'm still waiting for my damned hoverboard. Back to the Future Part II is full of lies, I tell you, lies! (I realize that the events in BttF2 don't occur to 2015, but we should be seeing regular hover technology by now if we are to meet the deadline of mass production for hoverboards that can be used by everyday kids.)
  • by putko ( 753330 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @02:27PM (#14935342) Homepage Journal
    If I were a creative, hard-working guy at IBM, and I heard something like this, I'd be thinking that I needed to get a new job, as I'd have no future at IBM if that is the sort of thing coming down from the top.
  • Big Things (Score:3, Interesting)

    by umbrellasd ( 876984 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @02:27PM (#14935345)
    The next big thing always occurs right after the big wigs conclude that there are no more big things.

    It's a common phenomenon in history where there is a cultural lull and pundits are claiming that everything that can be done has been done.

    Just look at biotech. WTF, this executive is a tunnel vision idiot. There are amazing things on the horizon.

  • Re:Exactly. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by networkBoy ( 774728 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @02:28PM (#14935348) Journal
    Next big thing:
    wetware implants ala Jonny mnemonic and/or borg type enhancements. Don't think so? Just look to the military for augmented soilders, or the commercial arbitrage market, where total and instant recall of all possible data about the deal would be an impressive advantage. People who are not geeks would submit to the knife if it could give them the possibility of riches.
    -nB
  • Innovators, rejoice! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by EricTheGreen ( 223110 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @02:28PM (#14935355) Homepage
    If Donofrio, IBM's Grand Poo-Bah of Innovation and Technology, is really espousing this as the company line, innovators everywhere can now breath easier in knowing that their largest potential worldwide competitor, one with near-bottomless personnel and cash resources, will no longer be racing them to realize innovative ideas and technologies from the shadowy ether of "just how exactly does {x} work?".

    The basic research space is [mostly] all yours now. Enjoy!

    Sad for IBM, though.

  • Re: Yes Next Thing (Score:2, Interesting)

    by jefe7777 ( 411081 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @02:30PM (#14935375) Journal
    so are you trying to say that Bill Gates is an example of someone failing to see the next big thing?

    If so, I find that pretty silly.

    If anyone has ever seen the next big thing, Bill Gates certainly would be a candidate.

    btw, there is no source for the quote you gave. (for the billionth time on slashdot)

  • No source of ideas (Score:3, Interesting)

    by forand ( 530402 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @02:30PM (#14935379) Homepage
    It is no surprise to me that comments like this are starting to appear from people who should know better. In the past century much of the impetus for innovation in the day to day lives of Americans, has come from, at some point, basic research. In the past few decades we have been reducing funding on basic research and thus less is being done. Now with that said Mr. Donofrio obviously isn't aware of other sectors of technology. Biotech is getting funded by both private donors as well as government agencies. I am reasonably sure there will continue to be breakthroughs in that field for at least a few years to come. But all of science relies on developing technologies that are needed to learn more about some basic system. These type of experiments are not being funded. And in the long run if this does not change I could see Mr. Donofrio statement being closer to reality.
  • by Saeed al-Sahaf ( 665390 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @02:31PM (#14935397) Homepage
    Like most propaganda, anecdotal evidence rarely holds up to true scrutiny. Seriously, I think inovation does still take place, but as technology marches on, that inovation moves from the macro level to the micro level. Such things rarely sound exciting and Earth shaking, yet ofter really are. And, they are all being patented and folded into consumer products.
  • Re:Is that so? (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 16, 2006 @02:42PM (#14935504)
    Unfortunately everything that can be invented has been PATENTED!
  • by Rorschach1 ( 174480 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @02:45PM (#14935531) Homepage
    My bet for the Next Big Thing is automated fabrication technology. And yes, it's already here - and it's gotten a lot cheaper in the last decade. 3-dimensional inkjets that make plastic parts, selective laser sintering for metal parts, that sort of thing.

    The general public hasn't really seen it yet, and it's still out of the price range for home use. Plus, the selection of materials is somewhat limited, but it's improving. There's no doubt in my mind that at some critical point of price and functionality, the market is going to explode. How long before a single machine is capable of building the physical housing of a device, plus conductive circuits, passive components, semiconductors, and moving parts? Imagine the innovation that will inspire, when you can electronically design and distribute everything from doorknobs to handguns, to be fabricated by people everywhere at minimal cost.

  • by Belial6 ( 794905 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @02:49PM (#14935572)
    It's entirely possible that you are right. The next big thing could be...wait for it...computers! I'm not entirely joking. We have had such an increadable pace of advancement in computer tech over the last twenty years, that it has become acceptable to be less and less efficent with them. Take the on going $100 laptop story. Given that a C-64 level hand crank powered portable computer could easily be produced for WAY under $100, it shows a distinct mentality of waste that there is so much hoopla over getting people pentium level portables. The last time I ran through the numbers, I could build one for ~$75 with single unit retail pricing. Can you imagine the power that our modern electronics could give us if we spent our time optimizing what we currently have?

    Don't get me wrong. The current path is a good one. So far, it has been more efficiant to keep throwing new tech at the problem, but once/if that becomes no longer possible, we have another generation of optimizing to gain performance. This is why I don't complain about code bloat. It makes no sense to pay $100,000 to a coder to optimize a routine when you can throw $200 worth of hardware at the problem. BUT, if you already have the most powerful hardware available, the $100,000 optimization becomes a bargain.
  • by HRbnjR ( 12398 ) <chris@hubick.com> on Thursday March 16, 2006 @02:49PM (#14935585) Homepage
    The problem isn't technology, it's cooperation.

    Some time ago, I read an article [scientificamerican.com] by Tim Berners-Lee which starts off with a description of a technology (semantic web) aided lifestyle where your car will automatically book itself for an oil change with your mechanic, and that type of thing. The thing is, we have all the knowledge and technology to make that kind of stuff happen *today*, yet I still don't think we will see it will happen any time soon.

    The problem is that to take things to the next level like that, we need *extensive* ongoing cooperation between hundreds and thousands of people, organizations, and companies - where such cooperation might not have any short term payoff, or the long term payoff might not be in the best financial interest of those involved (ie, Microsoft realizing a universal platform neutral programming language like Java would mean people don't need Windows). I mean, hell, we can't even get broad agreement on a single XML Word Processing format.

    Our problems now are more systemic than technologic. We aren't leveraging what we have.
  • Re:ORLY (Score:2, Interesting)

    by jfenwick ( 961674 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @02:50PM (#14935590)
    Don't forget about nanotechnology, one of the fastest growing technology fields. Physics seems to not work once you get down to this size, and a lot of research is still necessary. Once someone comes up with an explanation for this phenomenon you'll start seeing nanotechnology used in everything, from plastics to computers. Then there's quantum computers, which could change the face of encryption and how we think about solving problems.
  • by tootlemonde ( 579170 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @03:06PM (#14935743)

    no one noticed until the web browser and general access became available in 1995

    The widespread use of the Internet required 3 things that all had to be present at once: a browser with a graphic user interface, a computer that was powerful enough to manage a GUI and a modem that were fast enough to download enough data to supply the GUI. If any one of those were missing, the Web was not practical.

    The Next Big Thing is probably waiting for some new confluence of independent technologies. In fact, the Web may be such a component itself.

  • Re:Exactly. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Marxist Hacker 42 ( 638312 ) * <seebert42@gmail.com> on Thursday March 16, 2006 @03:06PM (#14935748) Homepage Journal
    I remember the first failed experiments towards this being back in 1982. Since then great strides have been made, and fall into one of four broad categories:

    Input from inert materials that don't really interface- the RFID in the hand trick, with three sensors that inform the computer of hand position and interpret movement. A similar think to this is the middle-mouse-button macro stuff that Mentor Graphics was doing in their CAD programs back in the early 1990s.

    Direct interface to nerve endings through Bluetooth- this was pioneered by England's famous cyborg-scientist. This is similar to the first method, but intercepts the signal before actual movement, so can detect much smaller nerve impulses, and does not require three dimensions of external sensors for the computer to interface. Only good for input.

    Input and still not quite possible output, the EKG Keyboard- I've been hearing about this one since the early 1990s as well- basically you take a EKG skullcap and hook it up to a digitizing sound card input and try to interpret the result. I always thought it was a bit flaky- but a story I missed actually reading recently here or on technocrat, I forget which, claimed success with this method.

    Output- implanted piston microsubwoofers, and eyeglass lasers, are now old tech- I first heard about them on Scientific American Frontiers in 1986, and since then they've become smaller, lighter, and easier to recharge using inductive power. But the only form of this tech that has achieved common usage is the permanent implant adaptive pacemaker- a pacemaker that is tied to a simple pedometer that regulates heartbeat to the activity level of the wearer.

    Bringing these technologies all together would be a killer app, but the next big thing? I don't think it will ever see widespread usage.
  • by Peter Trepan ( 572016 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @03:21PM (#14935900)
    1. Worldwide internet communication allows large numbers of international friendships, dampening public support for all geopolitical war.

    2. Cheap connectivity makes government propaganda impractical in every country

    3. Nearly all software becomes free, as the impracticality of selling infinitely copyable material becomes evident.

    4. Pop culture dies for the same reason, and is replaced by amateur arts and culture

    5. AIDS vaccine is found, triggering second sexual revolution

    6. Tech advances too fast for traditional college to keep up. Other methods of training become more prominent.

    7. Privacy dies. Morality becomes more utilitarian as "public face" becomes impossible
  • Re: Yes Next Thing (Score:3, Interesting)

    by AKAImBatman ( 238306 ) * <akaimbatman@gmaYEATSil.com minus poet> on Thursday March 16, 2006 @03:22PM (#14935911) Homepage Journal
    You're only looking at their market penetration without looking at the disruption they caused. Each of those technologies resulted in an overnight industry of new companies trying to capitalize on the technology. In all cases, no critical mass would be achieved for several years, but massive amounts of money would be spent in the meanwhile.
  • Re: Yes Next Thing (Score:5, Interesting)

    by IAmTheDave ( 746256 ) <basenamedave-sd@yah[ ]com ['oo.' in gap]> on Thursday March 16, 2006 @03:23PM (#14935912) Homepage Journal
    Thank God we have Intellectual Property laws to stifle the advancements of the arts and delay the end of human improvement as long as possible.

    Funny and poigniant at the same time. There are theories that human imagination and ability to achieve is limited, as schooling required to reach a level of expertise in a field continues to increase... however, we're far from the end, and with space exploration being almost pre-natal, our ability to achieve is highly unrealized. It's not to say there isn't an end, but it's not in sight.

    Further, human ingenuity will probably create devices (computers) that can help us overcome any limitations we might face on a human level.

    Saying there will never be a big breakthrough is base, and any credibility this man has should be immediately and irrevocably removed. I wonder if at the end of the industrial revolution, anyone ever imagined the information revolution...

  • by SoulRider ( 148285 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @03:27PM (#14935962)
    Actually I think the guy just obsoleted his own job. Excecutive vice president of innovation and technology? This is sort of like the mailman saying, "Im not delivering any more mail, but I still want a paycheck". What a maroon.
  • Depends on your POV (Score:2, Interesting)

    by meregistered ( 895132 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @03:31PM (#14935990) Journal
    Hmmm.
    If you watch specific areas of technology and view only earth shaking brand spanking new solutions to old problems as "The next big thing..." then I suppose you could view the incremental improvements as being ignorable.

    However, technological inovation is not dropping off. Watch /. read science magazines, watch the general news. You will see new inovations occuring very regularly. A german company is about to start production of transparent LCDs, the human genome has been mapped, cameras can be put as a feature on a phone, the ability to produce nano tubes has been discovered and used in products, HDD memory densities continue to increase despite claims that they can not be increased further, a filter to clean blood of viruses is available on the market, a new mathematical theory to describe gravity has been found and verified etc... etc... etc....

    I realize some of the above may not sound tech related. Really thats my point. If your point of view says that the only things to watch are higher DRAM densities then you may not see DDR2 as a next big thing. However if you watch advances in science, such as the ability to slow light down using specific materials, you will realize that there will likely, eventually be a next big thing for memory (although it may feel a bit like waiting for Duke Nukem Forever to come out).

    My POV is that there is absolutely not chance that important innovations will stop, unless research using scientific reasoning stops. ...
  • Re: Yes Next Thing (Score:3, Interesting)

    by timeOday ( 582209 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @03:46PM (#14936116)
    The idea that there is "no next big thing" is challenging conventional wisdom, which is that there is. You think there is, so does most everybody including me.

    But there is really no insight in reiterating the conventional wisdom. Why do we think there will be a next big thing? More importantly, what will it be and when will it arrive?

    In my opinion, progress is almost inevitable in the long run (barring extinction). But that isn't really the point if you're worrying about pursuing research or choosing a career.

  • Re:ORLY (Score:4, Interesting)

    by chgros ( 690878 ) <charles-henri.gros+slashdot@m 4 x .org> on Thursday March 16, 2006 @04:04PM (#14936262) Homepage
    Also, I'm still waiting for my damned hoverboard.
    Actually, I'd rather have a Mr Fusion
  • Re:ORLY (Score:2, Interesting)

    by annenk38 ( 163418 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @04:28PM (#14936428)
    I'd give virtual immortality a fair chance. Simulate a human on a quantum level in a virtual environment. Correct errors in protein production, and you can stop aging; you can then forget about silly things like cancer altogether. Accidental death or dismemberment? No problem -- just respawn a saved copy of yourself somewhere.
  • by rblancarte ( 213492 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @04:36PM (#14936484) Homepage
    But even that isn't true. We have had a bunch of things that in their own way (and I guess own realm) were a big thing. Think about the Nintendo in the mid 80's - completely reinvented home gaming. Processor innovations have made computers both smaller and cheaper. What was a "laptop" like 20 years ago, compared to now? Hell, even the palm, a simple an idea that it was, seriously changed the way some people use their computers. Now you have other systems that use Windows CE and similar. The iPod has very much taken the market by storm.

    All of these products came to pass without much litigation holding them back. Trust me, there will be more big things.

    Anyone who doesn't think so has no imagination.

    RonB
  • by HPNpilot ( 735362 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @04:38PM (#14936503) Homepage
    Innovation is certainly not dead, but a lot of innovators are on strike. Think "Atlas Shrugged" and Galt's Gulch. With today's IP environment which heavily favors large corporations whether or not you work for them, I for one refuse to play the game. Did the patent game both under my name and as a consultant, created lots of fun stuff, but for what you end up getting out of it, it is simply not worth the extraordinary time investment. I personally know at least half a dozen just like me, and I'm not exactly the most socially connected nerd...

    What I invent now I do for fun and for just myself and my friends.

  • by S3D ( 745318 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @06:13PM (#14937251)
    My bet is...robots. Not those huge industrial installations with welding torches, but walking, talking, dish-washing and grocery visiting robots from 50's Sciense Fiction.
  • by tlambert ( 566799 ) on Thursday March 16, 2006 @10:16PM (#14938669)
    I worked for IBM when this trend started... they bought the company I worked for, and, unlike many in companies bought by IBM, I stayed around for a couple years (compare 54% attrition in a year vs. 6% attrition in a year for most Cisco acquisitions).

    One really stupid thing that happened before I left was that they decided that each of the major labs would have to come up with at least one product every 6 months, instead of dedicating themselves to research. This was one of Lou Gerstner's last gasps, but it redirected the company focus from doing things that no one else could do, to doing things that made short term profit.

    Then others in the company (Sam Pamisano, Bill Etherington, et. al.) decided that individual contributors compensation would be based on the overall profit more than division or personal performance, and that managers and above would still have it based on division, personal performance, then overall profit, in that order.

    Either they believed the engineers working for them had never had any higher math in the area of game theory, or they were simply ignorant that the emergent property of that type of staging is to keep your boss pleased by keeping the division up at the expense of the rest of the company, so the boss is happy and cuts you in on the cake.

    Finally, it was a matter of pride to IBM Global Services that they had so much consulting effort that had been sold that they had a 2 year backlog - WTF? Who could *possibly* be proud of promising something you're unable to deliver in the timeframe you promised it, or having an organization that can't meet the demands of its market?

    It's really unfortunate when a large company that people have depended upon for their livelihoods starts a tumble into short term thinking, and from there, into mediocrity.

    -- Terry

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