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Comment: Re:Religion is not fraudulent (Score 1) 493

by Belial6 (#39101333) Attached to: James Randi's Latest Debunking Operation
You are wrong.

The vast majority of the population doesn't take whether something is scientifically proven or not into consideration when they call something "medicine". Also, your bumper sticker statement implies that you are placing chiropractics in the 'not medicine' category. The AMA feels that chiropractics meets their standards of medicine.

Beyond that, the claim that resetting bones and relieving the pinching of nerves is not the extraordinary claim that needs extraordinary evidence. The claim that leaving bones out of place and leaving nerves pinched is just as good as fixing them is the extraordinary claim.

As great of a bumper sticker as your quote makes, it isn't true.

Comment: Re:Why not, it's just another work tool (Score 5, Funny) 360

No, I don't. As long as I've been sexually active, I have compartmentalized information. Among other things, the women I sleep with get to know exactly how I like my balls licked. My mother does not.

I guess some of use are just not as close to our mothers as others.

Comment: Re:Religion is not fraudulent (Score 1) 493

by Belial6 (#39084063) Attached to: James Randi's Latest Debunking Operation
I will agree with that. I only argue that the idea is not bat-shit insane, and that if one is to declare it wrong, it should be declared wrong for the right reasons. When one argues against a bad idea with dishonesty, it feeds the people who believe the bad idea. Even worse is when one uses the same dishonesty to argue that a verifiability beneficial practice (chiropractic) is a bad idea while equating the two ideas.

Comment: Re:Religion is not fraudulent (Score 1) 493

by Belial6 (#39083907) Attached to: James Randi's Latest Debunking Operation
Now, there is a reasonable response to homeopathy. I will agree that "Like cures like" is not a generally proven principle, it is the basic idea behind immunization. You make a formula that is like the disease and inject it into the patient, and their body develops an immunity to the disease. Now we can split hairs and say that gaining an immunity to a disease is not exactly the same thing as 'curing', but the basic idea of "like cures like" is in wide use.

Now, I am not prepared to rely on anything labelled "Homeopathy" to give me any kind of health benefit, but there is a vocal group on Slashdot that jump to calling it quackery by taking the most bizarre aspect they can find and making that the single point that describes the entire idea. If you want to call out a subject as quackery, being dishonest about what it is doesn't make the case.

Even worse is when they group homeopathy with chiropractics. Where as homeopathy "is not a generally proven principle", chiropractics IS a generally proven principal. It has easily explainable and reproducible benefits. In fact, when it comes to chiropractics, the exceptional claim would be that it doesn't provide health benefits, since it is an exceptional claim to say that putting bones in place that had previously been out of place has no health benefits.

Comment: Re:Teamwork (Score 1) 1261

by Belial6 (#39083599) Attached to: Doctors "Fire" Vaccine Refusers
The statistics I quote are pre-vaccine. You WANT them to be post vaccine. 150 people a year is absolutely tiny. If you can do math, you will also see that 55% of all chicken pox deaths were seen in adults. That means that even using the high side estimate of 150 people a year, you only have 68 children a year die from chicken pox. That INCLUDES your 30% neonatal mortality rate. How can the number be so low when "neonatal mortality rate from chickenpox is 30%" [citation needed]. Easy. If the mother has immunity, she passes it on the the baby which lasts for about the first year of the babies life. So, if the mothers would have been taken to a pox party as children, their babies wouldn't have died. It is the lack of chicken pox infection for children that is to blame. Of course with a vaccine that wears off, we can expect to see a lot more mothers without immunity, and thus a lot more neonatal death due to the use of the chicken pox vaccine. No doubt the increased death rate among infants will be used as an excuse to push even more of the bad medicine that caused their deaths in the first place.

Some numbers to ponder:
Yearly child deaths caused by chicken pox (95% of all pre-immunization cases): 68
Yearly adult deaths caused by chicken pox (5% of all pre-immunization cases): 82
Yearly death rate due to lightning strikes: 82
Yearly death due to riding a school bus: 32
Yearly deaths due to drowning in pool (ages 5-9): 267
Yearly deaths due to drowning in pool (ages 5-24): 678
Yearly deaths due to trees: 32
Yearly deaths due to Tornado: 63
Yearly deaths due to suicide: 1616

So, sure, pox parties are more dangerous than... TREES, but pretty much tie sending your kid to school in a school bus and having the existence of TREES combined. You are the victim of fear mongering, and your acceptance of this has you helping to spread the FUD. Seriously. You are worried about a disease that is only twice as dangerous as the existence of TREES.

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