Zero Blaster Reviewed 208
Daniel Rutter writes "I've just reviewed the Zero Blaster, the smoke ring gun that ThinkGeek (among others) sell. It works. It's fun. It's a vortex ring physics demonstration with two triggers and a see-through mechanism. What more could you want for $20?" Thinkgeek and Slashdot are both owned by VA Software.
What, indeed..... (Score:2, Troll)
Do I really even have to answer that question?
Some possibilities:
Answer #1 [google.com]
Answer #2 [google.com]
Answer #3 [google.com]
Re:What, indeed..... (Score:5, Funny)
woot (Score:1, Funny)
Missing the point entirely (Score:5, Funny)
Awww, $20?? I wanted a peanut.
With $20, you can buy many peanuts!
Explain how!
Money can be exchanged for goods and services.
Cheaper one (Score:5, Informative)
Re:What, indeed..... (Score:1)
Re:What, indeed..... (Score:2)
How... (Score:3, Insightful)
New category needed (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:New category needed (Score:2)
Re:New category needed (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:New category needed (Score:1)
Yes, that's real integrity. Not some fluffy, patently false attempt to claim you've managed to expunge all trace of bias.
Re:New category needed (Score:2)
Yes, integrity is great. If you can fake it you've got it made.
Conflict of interest, not that users are confused (Score:4, Insightful)
Agreed. What's particularly bad is that the editorial staff clearly recognizes the problem:
Thinkgeek and Slashdot are both owned by VA Software.
The issue I have is that they don't realize what the problem is. It's like they think the issue is readership not realizing thinkgeek is associated with slashdot. We don't have that problem when there's a blinking thinkgeek ad right above the story.
Rather, the problem is that it's a plain and simple conflict of interest. OSDN trumpets slashdot as an "award winning news site", but slashdot editors continuously display zero journalistic integrities. Fact checking, not "reporting" about companies you accept advertising from, etc.
If it were news about thinkgeek, the disclaimer would not only be appropriate, it would be necessary. This however, was entirely a product suck-up....complete with the linkage. All that was missing was a [add this to your cart and check out] link. The disclaimer is for when you think you need to disclaim to readers that there's a potential conflict of interest. The disclaimer does NOT justify posting blatant ads as legitimate news stories.
Re:Conflict of interest, not that users are confus (Score:3, Insightful)
Slashdot's editors are not journalists. Well, Roblimo would be, but Timothy, Taco, Hemos, etc. They repost news articles done by others. Journalistic integrity lies on the author of the article. The editors are there to seperate the wheat from the chaff.
Besides, this really isn't ne
Assuming there was a conflict.... (Score:4, Insightful)
Oh, you really didn't just say that... Do you really want to recount the all too numerous number of hoaxes, spam headlines and just plain assnine stories that have made it to the front page with these so-called chaff seperating "editors" at the helm??? No, their work is more akin to strip-mining. They take stories that grab their attention and dump them wholesale onto this site with barely a cursorary background check at times.
They aren't journalists and I can accept that. But even editors is too rich of a word for what they do. At most Slashdot is a hub where people post stories and the people who run it do the absolute minimum in their posting. In effect, everybody else does their job for them. Not that I have a problem with it, but lets overhype their job here.
And to that other guy, it's only a conflict of intrests if you claim that your organization is some how unbiased or impartial in some way. To my knowledge, Slashdot has never claimed that and has every right to hype their own products on their own site. It doesn't exactly look the best when it comes to credibility, but then, neither do the dupes, spam and other crap that make the front page, so who am I to judge?
Re:Conflict of interest, not that users are confus (Score:3, Insightful)
Re: I don't care (Score:2)
I think the heighth of journalistic integrity is plainly and simply stating your biases for all to see. That is all I want and all I need. If Slashdot becomes a site that largely carries stories that seem to be ads, I'll stop reading it because it won't be useful anymore.
All this rot about journalistic integrity gets us our current news media, all of whom claim to be 'objective' while clearly being extremely biased in one way or another. Journalistic integrity is about saying who you are, where you're c
Re: I don't care (Score:2)
Re:Conflict of interest, not that users are confus (Score:2)
I'll admit that I deliberately submitted it that way in hopes of getting it posted (and it worked!). But in the review, I do mention that I bought my review Zero Blaster on eBay, cheaper than ThinkGeek sell it :-).
Re:Conflict of interest, not that users are confus (Score:2)
Oh read the freaking article, Dan has been posted to /. numerous times before, the article is EXTREMELY informative, DEFINITELY Nerdy, and downright COOL.
/. EDITORS mentioned "and by the way, ThinkGeek sells this wonderful product as well!" THEN I w
Now if the
right, pump trigger (Score:2)
It's awesome, seriously (Score:5, Informative)
Re:It's awesome, seriously (Score:1)
Re:It's awesome, seriously (Score:5, Funny)
Let's try that trick outside.
Re:It's awesome, seriously (Score:2)
Ahh, quit blowing smoke up my ass.
Said the dog.
Re:It's awesome, seriously (Score:2)
I don't use the metric system you insensitive clod!!!
Spoilers (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Spoilers (Score:2)
Re:Spoilers (Score:2)
It's popular in Britain. The UK do it all the time...
ads (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:ads (Score:1)
How about pictures or video of a demonstation? (Score:1)
There are many pictures of the actual device, but where are the pictures of operation?
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Re:How about pictures or video of a demonstation? (Score:3, Insightful)
oh, and there's a video here, though without any impressed "laay-deees."
not much news (Score:1)
Hmm (Score:5, Funny)
20 dolla (Score:5, Funny)
20 dolla?! (Score:2)
For those of you complaining about the 'ads' (Score:3, Funny)
Re:For those of you complaining about the 'ads' (Score:2)
Smoke Rings Eh? (Score:1)
Re:Smoke Rings Eh? (Score:1)
What the fuck are you trying to say?
Darn, not what I thought (Score:3, Funny)
Oh well, a smoke-ring gun is pretty good.
Re:Darn, not what I thought (Score:1)
Re:Darn, not what I thought (Score:1)
But then again, you could always just play ping-pong [astercity.net] (Coffee and Cats warning.)
among others (Score:4, Insightful)
So can anyone tell me who the among others are? Particularly anyone who might sell this toy from a retail store front? I would rather not mail order one and pay a steep shipping charge, and I do resent the Think Geek website approach of trying to make me "register" before I can even find out what the shipping cost is. (For all I know they might even be like other sites that make me give a credit card number before they will tell me the shipping charges, but I never got that far. I do buy on-line, but I never register or give a credit card number before I find out if I want to do business with the company, and for those that require it, I take my business elsewhere.
Re:among others (Score:2)
So can anyone tell me who the among others are?
google can!
They even lists what appears to be the manufacturer [zerotoys.com]. Contact them for wholesale info.
Re:among others (Score:2)
Re:among others (Score:1)
Re:among others (Score:2)
I have never been there, but I have noticed The Discovery Channel Shop, which has retail locations sells some of the same stuff Thinkgeek has. They have remote controlled blimps and hovercrafts for one. You might try their website.
Of all the stuff they could pimp (Score:4, Insightful)
Maybe make a miscelaneous department for fluff stories like this.
plus 6 AA batteries prices it $20 (Score:1)
included)? Five dollars?
Make your own (Score:5, Informative)
1 Medium size cardboard box (12" cube or better-long boxes with square bases are best)
1 Smoke source. (Incense, fog solution, etc)
1 sturdy plastic bag or thin sheet (to make a diaphram)
Duct tape (Of course!)
Cut 4" hole in base of box. Preferably in a "clean" edge (no flaps or seams). If you can't do that, make a bigger hole and cut the 4" circle in another peice of carbboard to make the orifice. Neatness counts!
Completely remove the opposite end of the box, and cover it with the plastic sheet. Pull it tight and secure with duct tape. Make a good seal!
Place smoke source in box (potential fire hazard? Be careful...) near the middle and wait for the box to fill up.
Aim and slap the plastic sheet to "shoot" a ring of smoke.
The kid on Mr Wizard was able to blow out a candle from about 15 feet away with this thing.
=Smidge=
Re:Make your own (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Make your own (Score:2)
Re:Make your own (Score:3, Informative)
The thing was hooked up to a big fog machine and could shoot rings a good 50 ft into the balcony, and by then they were 2-3 ft in diameter.
I was really surprised that I'd never seen
Airzooka looks more fun (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Airzooka looks more fun (Score:2)
Better for Scaring the Cat: (Score:2)
Granted, it's not as big of a deal as they make it, but it's more effective than a smoke ring.
Re:Better for Scaring the Cat: (Score:2)
Re:Better for Scaring the Cat: (Score:1)
I remember those model rockets that were sold everywhere, I always bought them, then one day they all vanished except for a few private hobby shops, and I had a friend who ended up with third degree burns for being a bone head..
The other one were those mega chemistry sets, the huge ones with what seemed like hundreds of bottles to make cool things, like neato toxic smoke, I filled the house with th
Model Rockets (Score:2)
Check out my rocket page [rocketclub.org] for some examples of current model rockets.
Played with one (Score:3, Interesting)
I was yelled at quite often to stop blowing smoke rings at customers, at her cashiers, at her...and even at myself. Couldn't put the toy down.
Smoke rings went for about 3 or 4 feet before they dissipated. Since I work in a club, I'm used to the smell of fog...and I'm one of the whackos who enjoy the smell of fog
Get one for your home, your office, your car...everywhere. Your visitors will pick it up, start playing, and not be able to put it down. Some day you'll see smokeringjunkies.com from the addicts to this toy.
Can it do clipper ships? (Score:2)
DIY Vortex Gun (Score:5, Interesting)
This reminds me of a DIY vortex gun I saw in a kids science comic thingy when I was like... 13 or something.
Step 1. Get a sturdy cardboard box no more than 6 inches wide in any dimension. 6" by 6" square with 8-12" length is good. Something cylindrical like a Quaker Oats container might be even better.
Step 2. Cut out one end and stretch a balloon over it. Firmly tape or otherwise fasten the balloon over the end.
Step 3. (perhaps the trickiest part) Attach something to the center of the balloon so you can pull it back. IIRC, they suggested that you could use a brass notebook fastener and some tape to do this. The tricky part is not to tear the balloon.
Step 4. Cut a circular hole in the middle of the other side. I want to say it should be about a 3rd the "diameter" of the box. Certainly no larger than that.
To "fire" it, just pull back on the balloon and hold long enough for pressure to equalize (this happens almost instantly because the hole is pretty big). Then, release it in a SNAP! all at once.
It's been a long time, but I think they promised a curious puff of air could be felt by people 10 or 20 feet away if you did it right.
An afternoon of scrounging for parts, construction, and experimentation with your kids is probably a more valuable experience than just shelling out for a vortex gun with nasty smoke in it.
For extra credit and to find out if your kids are mechanicly inclined, encourage them to come up with a handle/trigger mechanism for the thing so it can be pointed like a real gun.
If your DIY version works, you can take the kids out for ice-cream and get some dry ice from the vendor. See if you can make your gun smoke with that. A fun afternoon and evening for the entire family!
Re:DIY Vortex Gun (Score:1)
Re:DIY Vortex Gun (Score:3, Informative)
Re:DIY Vortex Gun (Score:2)
Same deal with our neighbor's big V-8 non pollution-controlled cars back in the 70s. When they were burning oil they would occasionally blow smoke rings while warming up. The family had 3 sons and the father and sons were always working on cars. I envied the whole Home Improvement-like quality of that family. They paid the penalty for being Real Men (TM) though. All 3 sons inherited their father's early onset male pattern baldness. I swear I'm not making this up.
They had them in the mid 1950s (Score:1, Informative)
see http://www.toytent.com/TrueReplica/4172.html
I recently bought one on eBay but the diaphram is completely gone, but it shouldn't be too hard to fix. I've been looking for a good smoke source for it. I should check this one out.
Battlebots! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Battlebots! (Score:2)
Kids, dont try this at home. But if you do, keep me posted.
More fun with vortices- (Score:4, Informative)
Re:More fun with vortices- (Score:3, Funny)
If I see someone exhaling out their ass into an Airzooka, well, I'm just gonna have to beat them with a clue bat.
Talk about socially unacceptable!
Glycol? (Score:4, Interesting)
glycol
n 1: a sweet but poisonous syrupy liquid used as an antifreeze
and solvent [syn: {ethylene glycol}, {ethanediol}]
Smells like a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Re:Glycol? (Score:1)
You are probably thinking of the wrong glycol (Score:2, Informative)
Most new antifreeze is propylene glycol, which doubles as a food and makeup additive (although just like every additive it has its share of detractors which swear it will kill us all) and is also used to generate smoke.
Re:Glycol? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Glycol? (Score:1)
Polyethylene Glycol (Score:2)
Not all glycols are poisonous, and some are even used in medical products. People having abdominal surgery or other procedures are sometimes required to clean out the plumbing first (a "bowel preparation" in the jargon) by drinking a gallon or so of polyethylene glycol the night before. They even have great flavors [nulytely.com] like cherry. You might even be able to use the stuff to make smoke rings.
And I'm not saying how I know that.
Re:Glycol? (Score:4, Informative)
Q: What is in the fluid?
A: A water based non-toxic liquid that is similar to the fluid used in special effects fog machines. The Fluid consists of Distilled Water, Glycerin (a USP kosher food additive) and Propylene Glycol (a USP kosher food additive ).
What I find amusing.... (Score:2)
As much as I hate how this happ
Re:Just Don't Read (Score:1, Flamebait)
Yes, I realize I can just not read it, in fact I said so. And based on some of the ads...err.....articles lately, it seems Rob and Jeff are only interested in the color green.
And as for getting used to it? Yes, I could be a good little sheep and just try to fit in, or I could bring the subject to the foreground, try to generate some n
Re:Just Don't Read (Score:2)
And every fucker who wrote saying they loved the piece of shit, over-priced gun, are declaring themselves as virgins.
Quick! (Score:5, Funny)
Hmm.... (Score:2)
"Hey laydies... look what I bought on ThinkGeek! Hey wait, come back!"
Request (Score:2, Interesting)
Please use www.slashdot.com for shit like this.
Please make www.slashdot.org worth looking at.
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more applications... (Score:1)
At this point... (Score:2)
How about, "At this point, I was contemplating getting out of my house and making some friends so they could take pictures of the smoke rings for me"
ultimate office intimidation weapon (Score:4, Funny)
Why?
I don't mind being pelted with ping-pong balls. But he absolutely can't stand to be subjected to the awful artificial cherry scent of the fog rings...
Re:ultimate office intimidation weapon (Score:1)
Smoke... Indeed. (Score:1)
This certainly it not a product I'd be interested in... However, if instead of producing smoke rings, it could be modified to produce a cigarette extinguishing vortex, it'd be quite useful. I'd love to have something I can use to point-and-click peoples' cigarettes out witho
I always wanted one but my dad said NO ... (Score:2)
And I have three cats to test it on.
Sissy! (Score:1)
I love mine! (Score:2, Interesting)
I can't say that battery life has been a problem like he described, i've had the same set in since I got it. It doesn't push them with much force, but you can get better distance with practice. One thing i've found that helps the quality of the ring is to cover the smo
I got one for Christmas. (Score:2)
PS: Some people will like the cherry scented smoke. Others will hate it. Animals seem to find it as a form of smelly attack.
And someone actually enjoys this ? (Score:2)
What fun ! - hours and hours of fun, er, well, er - blowing smoke rings ! - whoooopeee - I don't have a life !
Nice Fundraiser... (Score:2)
Now, that's a p(r)etty sly action Dan pulled there. Get a post through on slashdot (and crosslink it on your page), put a pointer towards your webhost on your page, PROFIT.
Bah! Vapour-Ware! (Score:2)
Could have also gone for:
smoke and mirrors [slashdot.org]
Re:This toy sucks (Score:5, Funny)
Re:What/Whos VA Software? Slashdot owned. (Score:1)