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Text Mining the New York Times
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on Sat Jul 29, 2006 05:29 AM
from the good-place-to-mine dept.
from the good-place-to-mine dept.
Roland Piquepaille writes "Text mining is a computer technique to extract useful information from unstructured text. And it's a difficult task. But now, using a relatively new method named topic modeling, computer scientists from University of California, Irvine (UCI), have analyzed 330,000 stories published by the New York Times between 2000 and 2002 in just a few hours. They were able to automatically isolate topics such as the Tour de France, prices of apartments in Brooklyn or dinosaur bones. This technique could soon be used not only by homeland security experts or librarians, but also by physicians, lawyers, real estate people, and even by yourself. Read more for additional details and a graph showing how the researchers discovered links between topics and people."
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Homeland security (Score:4, Insightful)
Homeland Aftosa (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://lordbalto.com/)
Plus some other words (Score:5, Funny)
From this, researchers were easily able to identify that topic as the Tour de France.
I imagine "testosterone", "doping", and "supportive mother", would have found the Tour de France topic even faster.
Funny (Score:1, Insightful)
Mining? (Score:5, Funny)
We lost four more miners today, bless their souls. The foreman kept insisting they'd dig another tunnel between bicycling and Tour de France. They told him it was too dangerous, but no... he never listens. One of these days... They've got us working 20 hour shifts in the abyss that is the text mines, barely pay us enough to afford the rent, I'm telling you, one of these days..."
Sounds like an alternative to cross-referencing (Score:3, Interesting)
I guess it's one way to avoid registering. (Score:1, Interesting)
Support Vector Machine? (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://www.uruviel.com/)
Re:Support Vector Machine? (Score:4, Informative)
The problem with this new method (called LDA introduced by Blei, Jordan and Ng in 2003) is (beside other issues) the so called inference step, as it is analytically intractable. Blei et al. solved this by means of variational methods, i.e. simplifying the model motivated by averaging-out phenomenas. Another method (which as far as I understand was applied by Steyvers) is sampling, in this case Gibbs sampling. Usually the variational methods are superior to sampling approaches as one needs quite a lot of samples for the whole thing to converge.
You mean clusty.com? (Score:3, Insightful)
(http://slashdot.org/)
I just read the stub of the article... because it seemed like it does exactly what clusty does and I don't care to read anymore.
in other news (Score:4, Funny)
Hello Newman..... (Score:1)
Has anyone realized this (Score:2)
(http://www.pengwin.net/)
Re:Has anyone realized this (Score:4, Interesting)
Wouldn't it be cool if we all spoke a language which was expressive but at the same time had a machine-parsable grammar and had absolutely no silly exceptions or odd concepts like the masculine/feminine nouns that French and Italian has?
I'm no expert on this, but I think linguists will tell you that we tend to modify/evolve langauge to suit our culture and circumstances, so any designed language (and even existing natural ones) will be modified into many different dialects as it is used by various cultures around the world.
Still yeah, I am glad I'm a native speaker of English since it would be a pain to learn as a second language! Imagine all the special cases you'd have to memorise! Spelling, grammar exceptions that may not fit the definition you learned but native speakers use anyway etc.
Interesting (Score:5, Interesting)
(Last Journal: Thursday May 04 2006, @10:41PM)
At the moment the data is mined with wildcard text searching, which means you need to know the subject before you can participate. It's a very valuable resource, but it's also not used to it's potential due to the clunky methods of interfacing with it.
It will be quite interesting applying this technique to the dataset to see if unknown relationships become apparent or known relationships become clearer.
Looking at the paper and samples would indicate this tool (if it does what it promises) might be able to not only work out the correlation between datum but to create visual diagrams linking people, places and events quite well. A handy tool for my dataset.
I'm now sitting here crystal ball gazing; if we were to expand this to a 3D map. Say by displaying a resulting chart and allow a researcher to hotlink to the data underneath it would be an interesting way to navigate a complex topic, more so than a text based wild or fuzzy search. Of course I won't know if this is possible until I look into the program more, and I won't be able to look into the program more until I massage teh dataset again
Click on the Anthony Ashcam box and see the hotlinking and unfolding of data specific to him. Drill in more... then more... and eventually get to a specific fact.
The only problem will be that I would need to pre-compute all the charts. Oh well, one day
Artificial intelligence implications? (Score:2, Informative)
An artificial intelligence [earthlink.net] could maybe use these new methods to grok all human knowledge contained in all textual material all over the World Wide Web.
Technological Singularity -- [blogcharm.com] -- here we come!
OMG SOMEONE INVENTED TEH SEARCH ENGINE! (Score:1)
Discourse Analysis? (Score:1)
(http://amishthrasher.blogspot.com/)
Hahahaha (Score:1)
They're late to the game. (Score:4, Insightful)
Google AdSense network has done this for years to serve contextually-relevant text ads across thousands of websites. Yahoo now, too.
grep? (Score:2, Funny)
(http://www.muftak.net/)
Text mining is... (Score:5, Funny)
(http://cryptostenchies.com/)
Hard to do? (Score:1)
Earlier modes of text mining (Score:5, Informative)
Following Schrodt's work, Doug Bond and his brother, both recently of Harvard, produced the IDEAS database [vranet.com] using machine-based coding.
These types of data can be categorized by keywords or topic, though the engines don't try to generate links. The resulting data can also be used for statistical analysis in a certain slashdotter's dissertation research...
The new method discoverd (Score:2)
(http://www.madtorrent.com/)
"site:newyorktimes.com "Tour de France" "
Teaching Granny to Suck Eggs... (Score:1)
Text Mining freeware already does this (Score:5, Interesting)
On the brink? Q-Phrase [q-phrase.com] has desktop software that does this exact type of topic modeling on huge datasets - and it runs on any Windows or OS X box. [Disclaimer: I work there] And there are a number of companies (e.g. Vivisimo/Clusty) that uses these techniques as well.
Going beyond the pure mechanics (this article speaks of research that is only groundbreaking in their speed of mining huge data sets), there are more interesting uses for topic modeling such as its application to already loosely correlated data sets. A prime example: mining the text from the result pages that are returned from a typical Google search. One of our products, CQ web [q-phrase.com] does exactly this (and bonus: it's freeware [q-phrase.com]):
Using the example from the story: in CQ web, text mining the top 100 results from a Google search of "tour de france" takes about 20 seconds (via broadband) and produces topics such as:
floyd landis
lance armstrong
yellow jersey
time trial
And going beyond simple topic analysis: using CQ web's "Dig In" feature (which provides relevant citations from the raw data) on floyd landis returns "Floyd landis has tested positive for high leves of testosterone during the tour de france." as the most relevant sentence from over 100 pages of unstructured text.
So, while this is a somewhat interesting article, fact is, anyone can download software today that accomplishes much of this "groundbreaking" research and beyond.
How much did that cost? (Score:2)
That's what Google News does (Score:2)
(http://www.animats.com)
Do Try This At Home! (Score:2, Interesting)
Chomsky Anyone? (Score:1)
(http://thestonepedo.dyndns.org/ | Last Journal: Friday March 17 2006, @03:32AM)
weird (Score:2)
Why is this news? (Score:4, Informative)
brief explanation of the method (Score:4, Informative)
(http://www.ics.uci.edu/~jmadden)
- basically, the model assigns a probability distribution over topics to each document
- topics are learned from the documents automatically, not pre-defined
- the technique can learn which authors are likely to have written various pieces of a given document, or which cited documents are likely to have contributed most to this document
For a good high level description of what these models are doing, see Mark Steyvers' research page [uci.edu] (MS is one of the authors); that page also has links to a number of the preceding papers. Those interested in seeing what the output of a related model looks like might like to check out the Author-Topic Browser [uci.edu].i.e., documents aren't assigned to a single topic (as in latent semantic analysis (LSA))
this means, incidentally, that they're not automatically labeled, although a list of the top 5 words for a topic generally characterizes it pretty well.
side benefit: you can also discover misattributions (e.g., authors with the same name)
Re:taxed minding what their dough is being spent o (Score:2)
(Last Journal: Tuesday May 16 2006, @08:46PM)