Cyrillic Projector Code Finally Cracked 165
SimuAndy writes "An international group of cryptographers, the Kryptos Group, announced this week that the decade-old Cyrillic Projector Code has been cracked, and that it deciphers to some classified KGB instructions and correspondence. The Cyrillic Projector is an encrypted sculpture at the University of North Carolina in Charlotte, that was created by Washington DC artist James Sanborn in the early 1990s. It was inspired by the encrypted Kryptos sculpture that Sanborn created two years earlier for CIA Headquarters. The message on the Cyrillic Projector has turned out to be in two parts. The decrypted first part is a Russian text encouraging secret agents to psychologically control potential sources of information. The second part appears to be a partial quote from classified KGB correspondence about the Soviet dissident Sakharov, with concerns that his report to the Pugwash conference was being used by the Americans for an anti-Soviet agenda."
Would there not... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Would there not... (Score:1)
Oh yeah, I forgot. Torture!
Silicon (Score:1)
Re:Silicon (Score:2)
no! cryptographic music! [geocities.com]
Re:Silicon (Score:2, Informative)
You don't link to geocities.
EVER
The link is dead upon posting. Always. Post a google cache if you must.
Re:a little offtopic but here's a related article (Score:2)
Re:a little offtopic but here's a related article (Score:2)
I checked it using Mozilla on my Sun, and w3m on my FreeBSD machine. Same result both places.
text (Score:1)
Please evaluate that article honestly.
Thank you.
text of the article (Score:1, Offtopic)
The KGB's Man
By ION MIHAI PACEPA
The Israeli government has vowed to expel Yasser Arafat, calling him an "obstacle" to peace. But the 72-year-old Palestinian leader is much more than that; he is a career terrorist, trained, armed and bankrolled by the Soviet Union and its satellites for decades.
Before I defected to America from Romania, leaving my post as chief of Romanian intelligence, I was responsible for giving Arafat about $200,000 in laundered cash every month throughout the 1970s. I also
Re:text of the article (Score:1, Troll)
Would he have us belive the cold war was entirely run by the Soviet Union? That while the soviet's were busy working on this, the CIA was tending the flowers on capitol hill?
It's all a game. They're all puppets, and this 'exposition of facts' doesn't change in the least bit the current situation of the people. The people Israeli
the sad truth (Score:5, Funny)
The sad part of this is that in today's world somrthing similar could happen.
Re:the sad truth (Score:1, Funny)
Re:the sad truth (Score:1, Funny)
Re:the sad truth (Score:5, Funny)
In Soviet Russia, KGB doesn't enforce the DMCA!
Re:the sad truth (Score:2)
Clarification: not a DMCA problem (Score:2, Informative)
The sad part of this is that in today's world somrthing similar could happen.
I'm seeing a lot of messages to this effect, and they're getting modded +1, Funny. But it should be pointed out that the joke falls a bit flat, because the KGB did not encrypt the text on the artwork. The artist encrypted the text for the purpose of posing a challenge to its viewers.
According to the v [elonka.com]
Kryptos (Score:3, Funny)
It sounds like a crypto module in KDE.
I broke cyrillic text (Score:2, Funny)
In other news (Score:4, Funny)
Re:In other news (Score:1)
That was hilarious! I think people moderate without reading or something.
Re:In other news (Score:2)
Is it still legal? (Score:4, Insightful)
From the article (Score:5, Funny)
Thank goodness for that decade-old KGB info. The Cold War will be ours!
Re:From the article (Score:3, Interesting)
Actually, potentially this could be a boon to historians depending on how much information was encrypted as such. If the NSA had gobs of it or the KGB's successor organization did and released the encrypted messages, but possibly lost the keys...etc.
Just a thought...
Actual translation (Score:5, Funny)
The actual translation is:
Keep information away from Moose and Squirrel.
Is lies am telink you! (Score:3, Funny)
Keep information away from Moose and Squirrel.
Vhy voot Rawshians... (excuse me...)
Why would Russians be interested in Moose and Squirrel? Boris and Natash were Pottsylvanian. Not Russian.
All that time... (Score:4, Funny)
Rubber Hose Cryptography (Score:5, Funny)
Damiano
Re:Rubber Hose Cryptography (Score:2)
Re:Rubber Hose Cryptography (Score:2)
Or telling them they can be imprisoned for two years if they fail to provide their encryption keys on demand.
In democratic England, RubberHose protects you
This just in, ROT-13 deciphered! (Score:4, Insightful)
as his first encoded sculpture -- a work called "Kryptos" that he created for CIA
headquarters in Langley, Va., in 1987. That code, created with the help of a
cryptographer, is so hard to break that the CIA "will never figure it out," he says.
So why is this news for anyone not on the UNC campus?
Re:This just in, ROT-13 deciphered! (Score:2)
Re:This just in, ROT-13 deciphered! (Score:5, Interesting)
He finally put up his untranslated solution on the web last week, but didn't announce it to anyone. Elonka noticed it in her referral logs and decided to make a big announcement of it.
Besides not thinking it's such a big deal, Frank is also worried that the FBI keeps a file on anybody interested in cryptography!
Re:This just in, ROT-13 deciphered! (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:This just in, ROT-13 deciphered! (Score:2)
It was published in Russia in 1983 or 1984 and provided amusement and inspiration to many a young programmer. The translators had to decrypt the original English text (discovering that the algorithm proposed by Wetherell was faulty), and to re-encrypt its Russian translation.
Many moons ago I wrote a program to decrypt that text,
Make your own sculpture (Score:2)
So the first part of it is crackable eventually, but just to through people off the rest is random...
They should have used double-rot13 encryption.. (Score:1)
Part 5 of the code is even harder (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Part 5 of the code is even harder (Score:1)
Re:Part 5 of the code is even harder (Score:2)
At last! (Score:2, Funny)
Ah, wait, you mean this Iraq operation is not an extension of the Cold War? Why is it going on, then? Why are they cracking the KGB code?
Congrats (Score:1)
Congrats. (Score:4, Interesting)
Or was it a logistic problem of distance?
I also assume that the "meaning" of the text is that somehow, while breaking the code, you are the creator's source? There is the physical piece and then the art is the effort in breaking the problem. Does this mean the piece is less transfixing since we know what it says?
Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
Re:Congrats. (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Congrats. (Score:1)
Re:I guess I'm the first to say it... (Score:1)
Mirror to solution. (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Mirror to solution. (Score:1)
modern art (Score:5, Funny)
Why I Hate Postmodernism (Score:1, Offtopic)
Re:Why I Hate Postmodernism (Score:2)
Re:Why I Hate Postmodernism (Score:2)
Total, complete, and utter bullsh*t.
Painters belonged to GUILDS and were APPRENTICED. They weren't allowed to touch paint until they mastered chiaroscuro, they weren't allowed to shade until they got perspective right, and right from the beginning they were expected to draw, and draw VERY VERY WELL.
Once the master (who was a guild member, and had talent, education and experie
Re:Why I Hate Postmodernism (Score:2, Informative)
Cyrillic Projector Code... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Cyrillic Projector Code... (Score:1)
Misuninterpreted (Score:3, Funny)
Finally! (Score:1)
I for one welcome our encrypted overlords (Score:2, Funny)
Vg znxrf vg fb gung crbcyr pna'g ernq zl zvaq.
Zl Gva sbvy ung vf abg pbzcyrgryl sbby cebbs nsgre nyy.
But I thought... (Score:2)
I go to school there (Score:1)
Steganography (Score:1)
So, what was Alexander Calder really saying with his colorful mobiles? Hint: it wasn't any garbage about "Expressing the social dynamic of Man's inhumanity to Man using organically reclaimed steel" -- it was "secret nuclear missle base is located at 34.4N 75.7W"
Chip H.
SURPRISE! (Score:2)
exactly (Score:1)
Open standard mean's that there is inter-operability. not
The only thing that has somewhat stemmed the cable TV piracy problems is that it's illegal for you to own a Digital Cable box. if you bought one off ebay then you bought stolen goods.
Otherwise the DCT 3000 and 5000 , the most standard of the cable digital boxes in america would have been cracked wide open for everyone. Just like the crappy Jerrold and older cable boxes that were analog
Code Craker Likes Slashdot (Score:5, Funny)
Have a look at Elonka Dunin, one of the coordinators of the team that cracked this beast. Is that slashdot on her screen? [elonka.com] I think it is ;)
-AP
Re:Code Craker Likes Slashdot (Score:1)
It's all well and good that she reads slashdot, but I wish more readers would back their words up with action, and make the switch to open source programs.
Re:Code Craker Likes Slashdot (Score:1)
And then it hit me. We should have just stayed with hand switches. Life was so simple. We just flip switches to code, find the moth when the code fails, and then sit back and play chess until we have enough energy to decode the answer.
No, not really on topic. But just to say I think the
Re:Code Craker Likes Slashdot (Score:2, Insightful)
So try to get this straight:
I am not a clone.
I see great benefits of open source, but I don't like the GPL.
I read slashdot.
I respond.
I even moderate.
And I'm very happy with Windows 98.
What's not broken doesn't need fixing.
Re:Code Craker Likes Slashdot (Score:2, Interesting)
Anyway, she's very cool and she's scheduled to talk about encryption again this year.
Re:Code Craker Likes Slashdot (Score:2, Funny)
training ground (Score:1)
Maybe cryptographers are using Slashdot to practice decyphering - look at all those cryptic posts and/or signatures. :)
Re:Code Craker Likes Slashdot (Score:1)
Hence the smile. It's a "i'll get the bastards" kind of smile.
School (Score:1)
Can someone make this into a lampshade? (Score:2)
Re:Can someone make this into a lampshade? (Score:2)
"Trasparency sheet, an ink jet printer and a 25W bulb on a wire from Ikea."
O.k... maybe two sheets.
I have no idea if it'll work, but it should be fun to try.
and the secret code reads...... (Score:3, Funny)
thank you,
Nikoli out....
Hmmm.. (Score:1, Redundant)
Pictures (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Pictures (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Pictures (Score:1)
Someone had told me that it was related to the fraternities and sororities on campus.
(Shamless plug: You web page mentioned that you didn't do anything physical, you should join the fencing club. Wednesday,Thursday @ 8PM in the SAC.)
-Nathan Conrad
Re:Pictures (Score:1)
(offtopic, sorry)
how do they light it? (Score:2)
cool pictures, cheers. Do you know how they light it to get the projection effect?
Re:how do they light it? (Score:1)
Re:Pictures (Score:1)
I walk by this thing twice a week (Score:2)
uncc sculpture (Score:3, Insightful)
Most people on that campus probably don't pay much attention to the artworks around them, which is too bad. Still, it's nice to see a work from the collection there capture people's imagination and enthusiasm.
I used to walk by (Score:1)
Roman letters for Cyrillic letters. (Score:1)
For example... PECTOPAH
XOPOWO
xopowo
Re:Roman letters for Cyrillic letters. (Score:1)
HNYNBO
OYEH XOPOWO
See also
http://makeashorterlink.com/?C17023BF5 [makeashorterlink.com]
Using Roman letters as graphical representation of Russian words is a kind of art that's been used creatively in advertising for instance.
the CIA teddy bear for kids (Score:1)
This was decrypted (Score:1)
I broke the code (Score:1)
Re:Aliens (Score:2)
Agreed: Aliens Would Laugh (Score:2)