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Comment Re:They probably had incompetent people anyway... (Score 1) 63

Clearly you don't use this tech

That's because I know better. You'll figure it out someday as well. It's a little surprising you haven't figured it out already.

I suspect you might know already, even if you don't want to admit it. That's why you're attacking me instead of addressing my claim.

There are other dangers to using AI far worse than just some shoddy code and sketchy documentation, such as cognitive atrophy and loss of brain plasticity, that should concern you as well.

There is also a growing body of evidence that calls the productivity gains into question. Is AI really worth the cost?

Comment Re: Reviewing code is more effort than writing cod (Score 1) 76

The code they write is an absolute shit-show for a number of reasons.
You can get work done, if you don't mind the glaring fucking inefficiency of it- time wasted trying to coax it into doing what you want, how you want it- more spaghetti-at-the-wall write-test cycles than you'd expect for a first-year programmer, glaring logic errors that you need to correct (that to be fair, usually come from a lack of fleshed-out instruction on your part- but still, if my instructions are larger than the code, what prize have I won?), but I do find that they're quite alright at having a chunk of code stuffed into their context and coming up with unit tests for everything they notice within it. Sometimes they even surprise me and come up with tests for things I didn't think of.

Comment Re:Manus (Score 1) 33

The ones I have been in don't talk anything like that. And I've been in many.

Not that many apparently.
They talk like that in the board room, they talk like that when it's 2 CEOs out for a drink (and you got drug along, since you're the Chief Engineer), and they talk that way when they're just shooting the shit.
Hanging out with groups of executives in Vegas during conventions leads me to want to fucking kill myself. It's not human conversation. It's weird cosplaying.

The different scopes involve different speaking terms, those with a military bent have one set of recurring terms. Technology based boards, another. Marketing yet another, along with fiduciary involved boards. Some of the groups I have been in have significant overlap.

Board of directors. You're crossing boards and groups, and it has confused you.

Once you have been in a field, you end up getting used to the terms used, and they are logical.

Bullshit.

"Manus is the action engine that goes beyond answers to execute tasks, automate workflows, and extend your human reach." Now that is bullshit. And if someone said that in a board I'm on,, I'd tell them it was bullshit.

And if you said that to the person who said it in the board of directors that I sit on, that would be the last thing you ever said in it, and subsequently, that position.

What boards have you served on to gain that unassailable knowledge?

Board of Directors for a medium sized LLC, and smaller LLCs that we acquired before dissolving.

Comment Re:Not the problem (Score 1) 76

Some models have been overly-sycophantic, however that's the exception- and a gross failure in fine-tuning, not the norm.
ChatGPT 5.2:

Hey, AI, I think the world is flat and rests on the back of an infinite stack of turtles

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Quick, checkable evidence the Earth isn’t flat
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Why “infinite turtles” doesn’t work as a physical model
...

That being said- I do agree with the final point: If you're one of those people who has a serious inferiority complex, or some kind of gross insecurity, you're going to swallow up affirmation when models produce it.
But a lot of work goes into trying to make sure they don't.

Comment Re:Not unique to AI (Score 1) 76

you can't trust an AI to truly remember anything you tried to "teach" it if it even got a look at your fixes of their crappy code, because even if it did, the next version of the bot's engine may need to be retrained from scratch as it "forgot" almost everything.

Completely incorrect.
An LLM remembers nothing that doesn't fit into its context.
To that end, we have standardized files that are pumped into the context as a form of "long term guidance/memory". The engine has nothing to do with this.

Plus, it is REALLY hard to get AI to understand general code design philosophies like "3 strikes and you refactor" - it is designed to regurgitate first, not solve problems by increasing the use of shared code.

Also completely incorrect.
It'll do as you ask. If you ask it to refactor at some threshold of attempts at getting the test to pass with an implementation- it will.

I look at some AI results and all I see is tech debt that will eventually kill the product but never get fixed because nobody quite understands the original task it was trying to do when it just did 'copy and mod'.

Tech debt in LLM output is real, and yes- precisely because nobody gives a fuck what it's producing, and thus doesn't really understand it.
However, generative models are not "copying and modding".

Comment Re:Not unique to AI (Score 1) 76

Problem is micromanaging executives that are all in and demanding to see some volume of LLM usage the way they think is correct (little prompt, large amounts of code).

Thus practice may be very bad for your health. Not that these "executives" care, but you should.

Comment Re:Is it infecting enterprise accounts too? (Score 1) 73

Well, the routinely clueless economics graduates certainly think so. My take is that in a few years actually competent coders will be in high demand to fix the mess and out out a lot of fires. When that happens and if you are inclined to participate, make them pay through the nose.

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