"Yesss, yess Daddy fascist government, tell me what I'm allowed to say and not say!"

That's you. An expert with a degree in professional retardation.

Large tech companies do both, including Microsoft. I speak from experience.

>Conflating everyone based knowing someone who hired the worst person is silly.

That's not an accurate summary of my experience, nor what I've heard from colleagues. Obviously Slashdot comments are limited, and all you have is my word that this isn't a rash judgment.

> It's like the only news we get in Europe is about Trump or starts with "Florida man..." you can imagine if people formed an opinion of Americans in general based on this.

Agreed. But if you had extensive experience with a subset of Americans throughout your career, in a narrow field (e.g., software engineering), with a variety of flavors, like interacting with them in specific offices in America, vs. ones that are in your country, and throughout various companies, and from friends, that what you're describing isn't a general impression, but experience. At some point refusing to describe what you've experienced and learn from it would simply be binding your hands behind your back, which isn't truthful nor productive. But possibly more comforting, depending on the degree to which you value ignoring things you're not supposed to notice.

All this is to again say that I'm confident in concluding that, generally speaking, Indians are shit-tier engineers, engage in cultural nepotism and hiring practices that would be socially scandalous if the races were reversed, and they're generally miserable to work with. Game-playing, withholding of information, acting like their questions to you are critically important while your questions to them are worthy of dismissive replies, the constant issue of listing multiple questions and having them only answer the easiest and pretending the others don't exist, etc. I could go into detail and I don't make my judgments rashly.

Indians can be good engineers. Some of the best mathematicians have been Indian. But generally speaking (like, for example, if you outsource your engineering to an Indian farm or hire a ton of H1-Bs) they are NOT good engineers. They're among the worst.

>The core development has been led by teams in Zürich, Switzerland and Seattle, with the Zürich team under Erich Gamma driving the project since its inception

Have a source for that? Either way, that fits. I didn't need to say US-teams, it was just less wordy than "US or European teams, or high-IQ and exceptional Asian talent, with competent, intelligent engineers rather than outsourced Indian crap."

My point isn't about US exceptionalism, it's about Western exceptionalism.

And Western developers are leagues ahead from the nightmare of Indian engineering.

> to the extraordinary engineering coming out of India, Taiwan, South Korea, and beyond.

One of these things isn't like the other.

>Dismissing entire regions' contributions with crude stereotypes says far more about the commenter's prejudices than it does about engineering quality.

Your "crude stereotype" is the learned man's experience.

You can feel the difference between Microsoft products made by competent US-teams, like VSCode, and the outsourced Indian slop, like Windows 11 and especially Explorer.

Normies made it terrible. Computers were better when women found it icky and most men couldn't care less

Petition to exclude India from the real Internet and give them a simulacrum created in realtime by API calls to LLMs and Stable Diffusion.

There's no evidence that there's reasoning behind your words, yet I'm expected to believe that you didn't just find patterns in the English language and spit it back out? What metric do you propose that would allow a naive third party to determine whether or not an output was formed using reasoning vs. just spitting out patterns?

Who cares? Reddit is 90% bots and marketing agencies. It's useless. It's AI slop that's been digested and shit back out multiple times...AI trained on the output of AI trained on the output of AI trained on the last vestiges of actual human communication from a forgotten era of Reddit, and all of it designed to push a certain narrative, get you to think a certain way, or make it hard for you to see content they don't want you to see.

>when you do it it's "sustainable"
>But if 2 billion Chinese and Indians do it "it's a disaster"

There's a vast difference between the way developed nations treat the environment and the way the third world does.

>entitled much?

It isn't entitlement that prevents us from creating massive heaps of burning trash children have to dig through, with toxic metals allowed to leach into the water table and plumes of carcinogenic smoke allowed fill the sky and choke the country. But I can see why someone with a third-world mindset would be spiteful of nations that are able to protect their people and prevent those conditions.

>coming from the "rich Western countries".

Why do you put quotes around "rich Western countries" in that context? Do you doubt that that's a real thing? If you are implying there's no distinction between rich western countries and the third world, you're not capable of analyzing the argument any further.

>Consumer culture is unsustainable.

Unlimited growth in unsustainable. Consumption and disposal are sustainable. The question is at what point does consumption and disposal become unsustainable or too harmful to warrant it.

>Those mountains of e-waste

Your implied argument is fallacious: there's no reason e-waste must necessarily be thrown into a heap and burned and the runoff leached into the water table and the meager proceeds used to fund the exponential growth of the third world population, etc.

CO2 emissions aren't the threat to the environment. Billions of people dumping endless chemicals and trash and breeding out of control while making massive scrap heaps of ewaste and burning it, etc., is the threat. The rich Western countries with their replacement rate birth rates (or below) are sustainable.

Meanwhile India is the climate threat.

In this modern era the puppets that be have been replaced with do-nothing HR nannies who scold everyone like angry, average-IQ schoolteachers.

Kind sars, we must be firing of 9,000 US employees. But do not worry, I will be explaining each and everything: we are doing the needful and we are creating of 4,712 H-1Bs. Kindly thank you for your years of service sar.