I wouldn't say it's clear that cross-activation doesn't happen during mRNA transcription, but I'm certain it happens at a lower rate than the virus itself, since again, the amount of spike protein that a cell can express is still absolutely fucking dwarfed by the circulating viruses during infection, which are, as you mentioned, a cross-activation heyday due to standard cellular mimicry.

Also, agreed on the dogs thing. But I can tell you that also isn't 100% adhered to.

And frankly, the idea that Muslims are 100% uniform in their strict adherence to Islamic drinking rules is fucking absurd.
I work with a 25-ish year old kid from Jordan, who is a semi-practicing Muslim, and he drinks like a fish.

People may also be surprised to learn you can find Mormons in the bars in Salt Lake City.

No.

Your discussion of choice is entirely fallacious.
I actually entirely agree with you, that in a discussion about the differences between mRNA vaccines, and other delivery mechanisms, there's nuanced discussion to be had.
However, this discussion wasn't about that at all.

You tried to make it about that.

Yes.

The paper was about a single individual that did not have COVID, so no one is disputing that the spike protein infiltrate throughout his body is the result of the vaccine.

Moving on from that, what the paper does not claim, is that such infiltrate is unique to vaccination. It would be weird for it to claim that, because 1) it's not, and 2) the cadaver couldn't tell you that one way or another. Yet, GP read that into it. Disingenuously, or ignorantly is an open question.

I.e., GP is taking a write-up about a person with Parkinsons who appears to have died of pneumonia, but also had widespread inflammation due to COVID spike proteins. They're then using that write-up to support the following untrue claim:

Did I sufficiently answer your question?

This happens in regular infection as well.
The LNPs just give the mRNA fragments a longer half-life.
Infection causes even higher rates of viral fragment circulation and uptake.

Patently incorrect.
Myocarditis is 10x more likely after infection of COVID vs. mRNA vaccination (from your first link in this post) precisely because the spike protein is readily taken into cells throughout your body.
The spike protein itself is toxic.

You've very much oversold your claim.
That applied only to groups with a second shot, and only when it was Moderna.
The reason isn't understood, but it's entirely possible it's not even related to the vaccine, but simply messaging that was prevalent regarding the vaccines, causing a higher incidence of going to the hospital for minor chest pains.
That signal was missing for people who had 1 dose, and for people who had Pfizer.

I can't believe you had the balls to post that one, lol.
Abnormal ECGs were prevalent 1% of students, but only myocarditis diagnosed in only 0.01% of students?
That study makes no attempt at linking the arrythmias to the vaccine. It's almost like they could have been looking at a completely fucking normal background signal like, oh, I don't know, having a fucking fever.

Look, I don't know if you're desperately digging for some kind of confirmation of your beliefs, or if you're disingenuously trying to throw misinformation spaghetti at the wall, but none of your conclusions were well backed up by a single study you cited. Do better.

Look at the armchair biologist.

It is very true that autoimmunity is a possibility.
It's a possibility with just about every single infection there is.

There is no evidence that suggests mRNA vaccines are more likely to cause autoimmunity than catching the cold.

I hate that herd immunity protects morons like you. It's a tragic dodging of the Darwinian justice you've earned.

the mRNA vaccine is segments of mRNA encased in lipid nano-proteins. There is nothing about it that was ever alive. Nothing about it metabolizes or has any ongoing life-like behaviors. It cannot die, since it was never alive.

the lipid nanoproteins are taken into your cell, the mRNA is released, and your regular cellular machinery builds proteins out of it.
These proteins are selected proteins from the virus intended to show your immune system a part of the virus that it can produce antibodies from, without you having to be infected with the virus.
the naked mRNA is very quickly broken done once inside your cell (since that's part of the job of your cellular machinery)
the LNPs also don't last forever, so any LNP-encapsulated mRNA that never got taken into a cell will eventually be broken down as well. Either way, they're entirely harmless.

The only harm that can happen here, which is a harm that can happen with any vaccine- is reactivity to the viral fragments that are being used to train your immune system.
This is normal for almost all vaccines (some amount of immunoreactivity), and why vaccines often have temporary side effects like "briefly feeling ill" and such.

You oversold it with the "but not causing damage".
It's very important to be accurate here, or the antivaxxers will invalidate your position.

mRNA segments tell your body to produce actual proteins from the virus.
This, unsurprisingly, can be immunoreactive and damaging in similiar was as the actual virus.

What's important, is that it is far less so than the actual virus.

Monoclonal antibodies are highly effective.
Unfortunately, they're so cost-prohibitive, that they will never, ever be able to keep up with a rapidly changing virus, which is why they quickly became entirely ineffective during COVID.

mRNA vaccines aren't "nonsense"- they're the next step up from bioreacting viruses in fucking eggs.
At some point in the future, when scientists can cheaply scan a virus, isolate a DNA/RNA segment, and 3d print you up some monoclonal antibodies for it without it costing thousands of dollars per dose, ya, that'll be bad ass.
I'm sure there are people working on making that a reality sometime in the next century.

This is a lie.

There is no evidence of LNP-mediated damage, whatsoever.
The damaged noted in that paper is due to COVID protein fragments, which makes sense, as they're known to cause these kinds of activations, simply at a vastly lower rate than actual COVID infection.

We use amphetamine analogues to this day in OTC drugs (pseudoephedrine). That's not strange- they're great decongestants.

There is so much fucking data on that subject that you could drown in it.

You are a fucking moron.

That has nothing to do with mRNA vaccines.
myocarditis is a side effect of the COVID spike protein.