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Comment Linux made the GPL, the GPL did not make Linux (Score 1) 152

Out in the alternate universe where folks are actually building things (instead of the corner office of the guy using business double speak) "success" also means "attracts competent developers and retains them."

That's a red herring. FreeBSD did not lack competent developers. They were held up by a court.

Many folks at the time did not want to contribute code that would just get stolen by proprietary parasites and *literally* sold back to them. Or to projects where improvements never made it back to the mainline.

Many people also supported BSD, and recognized its greater freedom. No strings like GPL. And you "stolen" is a GPL party line, not BSD developer lost a line of code. Every single line of code they supplied remained available to them. Only proprietary coded added to a GPL base was not shared. Guess, what the SAME thing can happen with GPL code. You can use Linux as a base and pile on tons of proprietary code and never share it, never contribute it back. You just need to only internally distribute the derivative work within your organization.

Those folks, in my experience, were the ones who actually both knew what they were doing ...

So did the BSD folks. Which is why the Linux folks lifted some of that BSD code for Linux.

... and had a strong belief that they were contributing something to the larger community

One, the larger community just wanted *nix on PC hardware. Most did not care about the politics of GPL.
Two, the larger community turned out to be the one who finished first, nothing more, the one not held up in court.

and not something easily looted

Again, the GPL party line. As mentioned above GPL can be looted too.

The truth is, some people are comfortable with a benevelent dictatorship. Others prefer complete freedom.

by the guy using business speak who just wanted more revenue.

Actually the GPL has nothing against revenue. Hence charging for distribution being allowed. Hence not sharing changes or additions if you do not publicly distribute the code and keep its use internal to the org.

Those folks, whether or not you agree with me, preferred contributing their time to GPL'd projects over BSD projects.

I AGREE that developers have the freedom of choice to go GPL or BSD. Its their work, its their choice.
What I DISAGREE over is that the politics of the GPL determined the winner, it was the courts.

Were you a developer at the time? If not. STFU. Stay in your lane.

Ah, thank you for demonstrating your political bias.

I was a a developer. Coming from a Unix based CS program. At my work many of us had a Unix background and were closely keeping an eye on things. We would have loved to switch our development PC to Unix. We evaluated SCO Xenix and something else whose name I have forgotten, small outfit, advertised in Byte magazine. Early 1990s we followed 386BSD and Linux. I've been using Linux since 1993. It was more stable than FreeBSD in 1993. That is what the majority of us cared about back in the day, those deciding based on the GPL were a fringe. Nothing wrong with them, they were just in the minority.

And if you really want to talk about who was the winner based on number of desktop users, that would actually be macOS. Which is Unix underneath the pretty graphics. BSD based.

The GPL today is a minor license, more permissive licenses are used far more often. GPL is really a legacy license due to Linux. The GPL has always been the choice with a minority of projects. Linux made the GPL, the GPL did not make Linux.

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