Well, it does imply recyclability. What California is saying is that it doesn't indicate a product will be recycled, and that's what they want it to mean. So that is where I think we are finding disagreement. California is not weighing in on whether or not something can potentially be recycled - that there is some process to break it down for reassembly into something else - their concern is whether or not it is likely that process will be performed on it.

Recyclable must only mean that a thing can be recycled. Whether or not it will be must be a separate issue and marked differently. I used to have a recycling bin at my house. Now, I do not (new company). Neither condition has any bearing on whether or not a beer can is recyclable. If I throw one in the trash, it probably won't be recycled. If I go somewhere that has a recycling bin that I toss it into, it probably will be. Why should the manufacturer have to worry about where I am when it comes to what label they put on it? How could they know? That's not a reasonable burden to place on them.

What California should do, avoiding any burden on interstate commerce, is to encourage or require a "Recycled in California" label on appropriate material sold in the State. That avoids the ambiguity and doesn't impact Federally defined labeling. They want to make a change, they should bear the burden of informing the public of the new labeling rather than forcing manufacturers to change familiar labels and confuse everyone.

It would have, but the publisher was sued and forced to remove that chapter.

And having seen British teeth, why in the world would I want their gum?

That is incidental. The core of the grifter's mindset is, "everyone is just trying to get one over on someone else, so I'll get mine too". That cynicism allows them to dismiss their conscience, as everyone being a crook means they can do whatever. Essentially, taking cynicism to its logical conclusion. "I can be as greedy and outright crooked as I believe everyone else is. And anyone who doesn't realize this is just a sucker who may as well be robbed by me as the next guy."

This is how grifters justify their behavior. And, why one must be careful not to let cynicism go too far.

Is that novel? He's looking for investors, not partners, and he can offer up as much or as little of the company as he wants in the IPO. My superficial info says IPOs usually offer up around half the company but may only be 20%.

Hah! Nice.

Those are all classes of theft. And, they are not all of the classes of theft.

I'll use UK law, since I have that open. The Theft act of 1968 defines theft thusly: "A person is guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it; and “thief” and “steal” shall be construed accordingly."

It then defines Robbery as "A person is guilty of robbery if he steals, and immediately before or at the time of doing so, and in order to do so, he uses force on any person or puts or seeks to put any person in fear of being then and there subjected to force." So, in a UK instance of your example, only showing a weapon would count as robbery. Unless they decide to count the snatching of a purse as force, which seems reasonable.

There's also burglary, aggravated burglary, breach of trust, from a public place, abstracting electricity, and a few more. They also separate out theft from a vehicle from burglary, and theft of a vehicle is another distinct class of theft.

I watched a tiny handful of savings and loan companies take down the entire country in the 1980s.

The problem here is you can end up with cascading effects. You end up with a large investor who is stretched too thin on SpaceX stock and that takes them down and like a bunch of dominoes they take down somebody else and on and on and on.

The market is currently drastically overvalued. And we have massively deregulated it so the hen house is full of foxes and the roof is about to come down.

So yeah having something as large as SpaceX be a complete total scam is a huge problem for the entire economy and not just markets.

If collapsing investor markets weren't always taken out of my hide I wouldn't care but that's not how that works. Whenever the ultra wealthy and the Epstein class lose a little money and power they always grind me and my class into pulp and we let them do it for whatever is stupid reasons come to mind at the time. Usually culture War bullshit.

The fundamental thing here is our entire investment market system is a house of cards built on bullshit and scamming people out of money that increasingly don't have enough money to keep the scam going. A Ponzi scheme can only go so long. And the laws and regulations and bureaucrats that were preventing it from getting to this point are long gone having been sacrificed in Trump's first term.

Which means people are bad at it. Since we're talking about submissions from AI, that may not be relevant. And, to be fair to humans, checking a large list of bugs for your particular issue is a bit of a pain, so duplicates are not a surprise. But if an AI is doing the submission, the only extra work a human has to do is make sure it checks for duplicates. Offload the hassle of searching the bugs.

Well, are we talking about new TVs or old? Your 4 pre-smart TVs are best handled with something like a fire or Roku stick. If you already have a smart TV, then you're just trading one set of ads and BS for another, but with added cost. If Plex didn't exist and Jellyfin still didn't have an app on my TV, then I would want to add something for local streaming. Since Plex does exist and is already on my TV, there's no point in spending even $5 more. I don't gain anything from it.

I actually started off using a Roku with my living room TV, mostly due to inertia as my old TV wasn't very smart anymore. But I found that we weren't using it. The TV already had everything we used the Roku for and was generally as good at providing it. Roku ended up on a different TV.

And New York, and California, and 47 other States, and Canada, and the UK, and France, and...

To give you some idea - https://sentencingcouncil.org....

You'll note that while premeditation counts, knowing in advance the value of what is stolen is not. That isn't considered at all. Value and harm are the relevant factors. Steal my wallet from the table and it has 400 Pounds (can't do the symbol), that's a category 4 offence. Beat me up and take the 400, it's category 3. Steal it from the table and it has 600, it's category 3. No matter what you thought was in there.

Think it through. If foreknowledge of the value was relevant, then you could steal diamonds and claim you thought they were cubic zirconium to get off with a lighter sentence.

It's going to draw everyone into its maelstrom. This is a 1.7 trillion dollar investment scam. That's just too huge. It's going to come crashing down and it is engineered to come crashing down on our heads. The entire system and process sets up a too big to fail structure so that the government will inevitably bail out the big boys and let us flounder just like 2008 only worse.

You really can't put your head in the sand anymore. But I don't see any will on the part of anyone to do anything else. So we're all just waiting to get crushed

The IPO is so huge that if you are a institutional investor with one of those funds that buy stocks for people to invest in then you have to buy SpaceX. It's going to be something like 7% of NASDAQ. You can't afford for that to fail it would take down your other investments with it. It is classic too big to fail bullshit. It basically forces every single institutional investor to buy into it. The rule changes also Force those investors into it.

This also means that if you're buying into supposably safe index or hedge funds you're now at risk because all of NASDAQ is at risk. This basically fucks everything up. It's too big of a scam for our economy to reliably absorb. Ordinarily the government would step in and block this shit because of the damage it would do to The wider economy. I don't think it takes a genius to figure out why that's not happening.

It does, but I haven't tried it. I installed on a linux server, and someday, I may complete the setup.

And the SpaceX IPO is just a scam. There's simply aren't enough launch customers to justify the valuation and starlink can't make that up because they're only so many people in the world who can afford $100 a month for internet and don't have access to high quality wired internet. SpaceX is basically out of customers they are maxed out which is why they're pushing this now.

NASDAQ where the shares get listed knows this but they're going to make so much money off of the launch of this IPO and the trading of the stock they couldn't say no. More importantly they let muskrat break and bend rules all over the place making this a extremely high risk investment unless you are part of the inner circle that will be protected. If you have less than a billion dollars in your bank account you are not part of that circle.

Eventually all this bad stock is going to have to go somewhere. Traditionally it would go into public pensions but we've been using those to dump bad stock for so long there's no way they can absorb it. Over and over again we see rules around 401ks being changed. They're going to dump it into your 401k.

Because you currently have a measure of control over your 401k I'm sure you're telling yourself that as a sophisticated investor you will avoid those traps and it's those other suckers who are going to get stuck with the bill.

Now we're going to ignore the fact that the economy is heavily interconnected and when all those other suckers lose their money it will have effects on you. We're just going to pretend they all shoot themselves or something.

Here's the thing there's a hierarchy of suckers. You are in that hierarchy with everybody else. It is a little harder to get to your money. It is not impossible for somebody who has a trillion dollars. Rules can be changed and more complex traps laid. And when you wake up one day and you have $0 in your bank account and investment accounts you're going to stop and ask yourself how could this happen but that's not going to get you your money back.

I used to think the old farts around here would safely die before the shit hit the fan for them but Trump is moving things so fast so badly I don't think that's the case anymore. And with AI data centers basically doubling the price of electricity and water the shit's going to hit the fan all at once. So unless you are planning on dying before the midterm elections I don't think you're going to escape this shit.

There's a tradeoff. You're adding complexity, effort, and cost to get that added flexibility. There is something to be said for simple, easy, and effective. I could buy a new Roku for my living room, but even as cheap as they are it's still an extra expense I don't need.