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Comment Re:Death To All Jews (Score 2, Interesting) 911

"But for some reason the idea of the Jews having a homeland drives people berserk."

Probably because jewish religious/historical texts claim the jews bailed on Egypt then wandered the desert and finally invaded and stole the Palestinian's homeland. Personally I think all the sky fairy worshipers are crackpots but I fail to see what is disputed on that bit. You could (probably rightly) argue that it is the homeland of everyone born there and yesterday doesn't matter but I can't see any logical basis for calling Isreal the homeland of the jews.

 

Comment Re:Is there a product these patents protect? (Score 2) 69

"Thus, CRISPR could be best compared to replacing a hacksaw with a laser cutter. The general public has no need of such a tool"

On the contrary, like a laser cutter the general public does have much use for the tool. Unlike laser cutters the fundamental tools are being locked behind non-disclosure agreements and patents artificially inflating the price to play dramatically. If the general public had no use for such tools makers clubs, diy bio groups, etc wouldn't exist at all. As it stands diy bio groups are limited to mostly cookie cutter protocols that repeat previous experiments because the more general purpose tools (both those which exist and those which they could produce) are locked behind paywalls.

There is no great magic behind synthesizing RNA and PCR for instance and certainly no reason for these materials to be expensive but getting your hands on the materials for a laymen is rather difficult and even if you can it normally comes with an agreement which precludes using those tools to replicate those precursors and share along with information on how to do the same. Information on using common bacterial, viral, etc vectors and basic tools to work with them should be completely free as well.

We desperately need a bioGNU. Many of these processes are actually refined nearly to the point of being programmable like code but access is kept strictly controlled and/or key pieces that allow one to cheaply and easily replicate the precursors is held back to artificially limit access and drive up prices.

Comment Re: White Leftists Whine, China Creates Superhuman (Score 1) 159

On the contrary, this has been something you could work with $5 worth of raw material, a few dozen hours of self study, and a few hundred bucks worth of diy equipment for at least a decade now. Thanks to IP and strict agreements no share terms on that $5 worth of material plus ethical concerns has remained something that in practice will require you to be associated with a multi-million dollar organization to play at all.

Comment Re:Is there a product these patents protect? (Score 1) 69

"Well, by the time they can use that patent in any meaningful way beyond simply experimentation it will have expired. "

By the time it expires everything meaningful that can be done with the base technology will be locked behind reams of patents like most work that can be done with DNA. With $500-1000, a bunch of DIY equipment, 3-6months worth of self-study, you can set up a mini lab and do all sorts of experimentation... at least you could if everything you need weren't locked up in patents that turn 15 cents worth of raw materials into $5000 a shot IP licenses with promises not to share with others.

Comment Re:I don't see the problem. (Score 1) 660

"Netflix enters every market with local servers, and as such, the streaming is fast, even in a place like China"

No kidding, they do that because they have to. A Google cache appliance isn't going to help with anything but browsing the web... I'm not really sure The only way it makes sense with Netflix or most US industry to open up shop in India or China closing up shop in the US if they were opening shop to sell to Indians/Chinese. It would not work for Netflix to stream to the US from China because there is too much latency the pipes between the two nations aren't fat enough to carry that massive load of traffic.

Comment Re:Can't (Score 1) 660

"a wonderful example of an entitlement issue. Just because you want it doesn't mean you should get it. Also there is no particular reason the job should require it just to give those people jobs."

Look, I can just copy and paste from the last time I made a counterargument you have no effective argument against.

Comment Re:It should be obvious, but ... (Score 1) 660

" He wasn't going to get there as a "self-starter", like just about everyone else outside of fiction he needed some help."

Everyone gets help at some point that doesn't mean they aren't a self starter. There is a difference between getting helped at some point and spending a significant chunk of your adult life being trained to think someone is going to spoon fed everything you need to know.

Comment Re:Maybe train the American kid first (Score 1) 660



"How about taking a step back and think of it rationally instead of emotionally."

It isn't emotional. I should restate though. Those with higher degrees tend to want to think those with degrees superior to those without them. They almost have to after investing so much into that path. :"Either could effectively be apprenticed to someone exceptional afterwards with the same result but different approaches to fill in the different gaps"

That is probably true. In my experience if someone straight out of formal education can do the job it would make more sense to hire self starters who have demonstrated skills that would give them an edge in advancing on the job either with or without calling it an apprenticeship. It certainly should carry the same suitable entry level salary that would have gone to someone with a degree. If they make it a year or two they could qualify for any tuition assistance and go to fill out their education if that is believed to be the better path. Good for everyone if people who aren't meant for the field find out BEFORE they have degrees and debt and go around adding taking a spot that someone with the skill and passion for the field could fill.

Comment Re:It should be obvious, but ... (Score 1) 660

"Self starters are incredibly rare (outside of fiction) and you'd be excluding 99% of people in technology"

Maybe not 99%, probably more like 95% based on my anecdotal evidence. Self starters are indeed incredibly rare but not only exist in fiction rare they seem rarer than they are though a lot incredibly intelligent people self start on various in depth topics that aren't tech or their profession. You just said it yourself, "I taught myself a lot of programming and ended up going down a lot of irrelevant dead ends before." So, you are a self-starter then. Going down a lot of irrelevant dead ends, even better is how you start training yourself to automatically home in on what you need when seeking information and to seek that information doggedly, training your pattern matching brain like a neural net with frustration at failure and reward on hard found success. Other critical skills trained in this way include learning to mentally and rapidly reverse engineer solutions based on whatever information is available to you. Building a mental working model for EVERYTHING in a similar fashion to the scientific method (maybe not even realize you do it). And doing the same for problems freely borrowing pieces from other models that fit. Last but not least both insight into what you are learning when you do get formal training and how it will apply for real and appreciating and valuing that information.

A formal education environment is fine for filling in gaps after someone has learned at least some of that.

"It's not just about being bright it's about being able to work out what you need to know and being able to do that without help is a very rare situation."

I agree, being bright is a requirement but not the only one. Plenty of those 95% I mentioned above are actually very bright. I guess that depends on how you define help. Speaking of defining we may have a miscommunication. When I'm talking about a self starter I'm talking about someone who had the drive and initiative to seek information and better themselves. Someone who either likes learning or can't stand feeling like they don't know something. It occurred to me that you might be under the impression I'm referring to someone learning an entire degree worth of information before day 1 of their professional career. They should have taught themselves enough to establish they can do so independently without looking to others to spoonfeed them answers. If it is a coding related position I'd expect them to have some proficiency in a language they'll be working with so there will be tasks they can work on.

I don't believe it is reasonable to think anyone should be able to jump in and do a tech job now. Unless it is an unskilled role like management or some kind of low level work in a very standard environment nobody actually "hits the ground running." Certainly not someone who is entry level.

Even for an experienced candidate there is a reasonable expectation they'll need to learn your tools, pick up whatever language and coding standards you are following if their experience is with another language. Possibly add a bit to their skillset that is needed for what you are working on if it is highly specialized *cough* seismic data processing especially if bringing in technical talent to crossover. Someone with experience doing anything somewhat similar to that specific position who can demonstrate proficiency on at least one of three generic challenges under the same conditions that exist in the actual work environment (tools set up, open book aka online resources available, etc) counts as qualified. I wouldn't think a degree should count for or against them or impact salary/experience requirements.

For something entry level (and you can make room on a team for someone entry level especially in a specialized field) they should have taught themselves something that demonstrates they will genuinely attempt to find solutions when they encounter problems and have an aptitude for succeeding and at least do a solid enough job bullshitting you can pretend to believe them while they fake it till they make it. IMHO that gives you the best chance of getting someone worth investing in. I honestly wouldn't consider a degree one way or the other here or again pay more for it. It doesn't change that the individual is going to have to learn and grow up on your company's dime. Again if a degree/vocation school/other formal training before walking in the door was worth more or even as much 4+ years learning and developing in the real world that should demonstrate itself pretty quickly. Probably assigning them varied tasks requiring different skills combined with discretely watching what their peers do and reverse engineering should be enough with either.

If any of these people with any of these backgrounds exist an H1B isn't warranted just because companies don't want to invest in and pay to retain staff who know what they are doing anymore. Instead they'd rather give the guy experienced in position 1-3% bump, have him quit while they are also hiring new people who have to be trained at 25% more than him.

Comment Re:I don't see the problem. (Score 1) 660

"How do you mean? I've worked for a variety of international companies, and connections to the consumers are always good. Yes, sometimes you have to use Google Drive, or One Drive, or some other cloud file service that's replicated around the world, but two people editing the same file at the same time on opposite sides of the world is trivial in India, China, and even Detroit."

That depends on the filetype actually. But I'm going to assume you mean text and especially code. That is a task that is suited to work over a distance and already commonly outsourced as it isn't latency sensitive. Being able to coordinate a file edit is not the end all definition of every company being able to outsource all its operations. The low overall bandwidth, great firewall, and 200-300ms+ mandatory latency to most locations is a severe impediment to operations which developed in the US with fast low latency pipes and complaints when you have to add the delay of another domestic hop let alone an oceanic one. Good luck streaming Netflix from servers in China, India, or even Detroit (which isn't particularly well peered). You aren't going to find a fortune 500 willing to host and deliver most any content to people in the US with offshore or Detroit level connections or people in the US willing to consume the result. Lets be honest with the rampant H1B abuse and therefore 99.999% of current H1B's exported there won't be anyone left on this side who can understand those strong Asian accents especially the rumbling heavily clipped by most phone systems Indian accents. There won't be nearly as many of those resources adapting to better communicate either because they won't be here. This problem wasn't truly solved, companies just kept importing H1B's and replacing domestic workers until almost everyone an H1B works with is either a current or former H1B.

Comment Re:Can't (Score 1) 660

What is the point when neither response impacts the validity of my prior arguments? Are there points for catering to a request to over-simply my response to your irrelevant tangent? The answer still has no logical impact on the validity of any of the premises. I've already answered your question. Perhaps you think there are points to be gained by begging the question.

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