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Comment Huh? (Score 1) 354

The small meaningless lies should really worry you more than the whoppers, especially when there is a steady stream for decades. An occasional whopper shows a person who makes mistakes and does not like accountability, a somewhat normal behavior. The constant lying indicates mental illness.

Comment Re: Question (Score 2) 457

Let's face it, there weren't all that many heroines in WWI, or even WWII for that matter. Yes, there were the WACS, but women were kept away form combat.

None the less, many were heroic on the home front, and married the returning doughboys, some of whom were addicted to morphine. Many returning soldiers were indeed addicted to their heroines, and pampered them the rest of their joint lives.

Some of these doughboys were addicted to various forms of opium pain killers taken from their injury, including heroin . . . :)

hawk

Comment Re:Basic Math time (Score 1) 457

And where exactly do you propose to get said 3 Trillion dollars without causing mass inflation and making your dollar worth nothing? No fraud or waste? You have to be absolutely batshit crazy. EVERY Government program is full of fraud and abuse today. What sort of delusional world do you live in where by some type of fairy magic (or something) UBI is free of fraud and corruption? No wonder you post anonymously.

Comment Re:Here's an idea (Score 1) 113

I've never blocked anything just for being an ad.

I do block anything that blinks or moves, including those carousals on news sites, and those bouncy-floating sidebars.

The consequence is that I see so few ads that I' surprised when one happens.

On the rare occasion I need a website on my phone, I use ghostly. I'm just plain not a product, and do not want to be tracked.

hawk

Comment Basic Math time (Score 1) 457

There are over 318 Million Americans. A "Basic Income" of 10,000/year would not be enough for anyone to live on and would cost 3.2 Trillion dollars. Spending 10 Trillion dollars would still have people in Poverty, and far exceeds our current GDP.

BI does not fix or modify any of the current problems. Corruption, waste, and fraud will still be a big problem. The only difference is that now everyone can play the game.

Contrary to what the story tellers are claiming, things are not very good in the overwhelming majority of Socialist countries. See the unemployment rates all across Europe. See the debt levels across the same. This is why the UK wanted out of the European Union, it's not doing very well for the majority of the people in it, it works for the bankers and politicians.

Comment WTF? (Score 1) 457

Are you attempting to re-write history or just ignoring it? Have any idea how many East Germans starved to death under Russian control? How much food did the US and West Germans drop into East Germany? How many people were killed trying to escape that great and free country? Do you know how many WWII bombed out buildings were still in East Germany at the time of Unification? It was a horrible mess, go read about it if you don't know anyone from there (I have family in Germany)

Communism _is_ the problem, read the frigging book, understand the basic planks to achieve and maintain it.

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels..

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries, gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country.

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production. * Read Marx and you will see this is for indoctrination and propaganda, not for an educated society *

Of course Communism is the problem. Communism would work if humans were perfect altruistic beings. We are not.

Comment Re: Question (Score 1) 457

East germany never had a particular low standard of living.

North Korea is a millitary dictatorship.

And your remark about China: back way off on the commie central planning

You see? It is not communism, that is the problem, but the hybris lies in the men or commitees who think they can plan a nations economy 5 years ahead in every detail ... which basically means: your argument has nothing to do with UBI, or communism.

You don't know anything about communism to make that claim, sorry. Read the planks, and then look at the Governments. China claims it's not communist but sure as hell follows all the planks of communism. Hell, the DPRK calls itself a Republic, does that mean they are? I really hope that the concept of an ideology is completely lost on you.

Comment Prove it! (Score 1) 457

Show me the working Utopia. See China, Russia, most countries in South America, most countries in Europe who have gone full Socialist, see Canada. There are various extremes of brutality and freedom, but all of the examples you find have a rapidly diminishing standard of Freedom if one ever existed (China/Russia) to begin with.

Don't like modern examples, go through history. Stories and attempts at Utopia date back to our earliest written history. Socrates can tell you all about it and why it fails. If given a choice between sitting on your ass and getting paid and working and getting paid, the _majority_ will sit on their ass.

Comment Wrong Commie! (Score -1, Troll) 457

I really hate to call names, but this garbage really needs to stop getting spread around. If you want communism get the fuck out of the US and move to China or Russia! Be very happy in your Utopia, and leave us Free people alone!

Look, I get that the drive by idiot is going to think "Oh cool, everyone gets free money." because it sounds so damn easy. Reality is kept far away from those people however, because when you start to look at it the only possible way to have Utopia is to make everyone a slave. READ THE GODDAMN STORIES (there are several and all end up the same)!.

1. Basic income - Requires a uniform standard of living across the board. You get a bed, not a water bed. You get a house, which must not be special because it has to cost exactly the same as every other house. You can't "save" for that new gaming system, because your standard of living would be higher than your neighbors. What's that? Kiss the right ass and you can have it? Got it, so corruption still works in an enslaved society but freedom and justice won't. You must be smart enough to realize that humans are still running things, though probably not bright enough to understand that an estimated 20% are narcissistic sociopaths to some degree. We have several very large real world examples you can go live in today, or study.

2. Basic income - Requires a uniform Cost of living across the board. Detroit area market is about 30K for a 2,000 square foot house. Dallas Texas is about 300K for a 2,000 square foot house. But we have to be uniform so Houses in Detroit now cost 100K and Dallas cost 100K, you can't have a different cost of living if you are giving a flat rate of cash to everyone in lieu of other social welfare programs. If you invested in Dallas, or you can't afford a house in Detroit, fuck right off because you can't have a different standard of living. (For the feeble minded, an attempt to have variable rates for variable locations will result in cheating immediately. Once again, there are several real world examples for you to study or go live in.)

3. Uniform cost and standard of living require _ALL_ jobs to pay the same wage regardless of any skills, education/training, or experience in the task. A Doctor can't make more than a janitor, because his standard of living would be higher and his educational investment would require more. That is totally unfair, and can't be allowed.

Water heads spreading Basic Income mythology and trying to sell communism are free to leave my country. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, and don't come crying back when you find that Utopia in Russia and China don't exist. Those are your attempts at Utopia to study.

Comment Re:Question (Score 1) 457

That is the wrong question. The problem isn't about having people leaching the system there are other attributes towards wealth than raw survivaval we want to feel special and worth while, those who freeloading willingly really have some mental problem that should be addressed. The real question is on the other side if there are no corporations or rich people what will prevent people going that extra mile where it really suffers.
Let's use Musk as an example against all odds he is pushing clean energy and making money off of it. A government really would still stick with fossil fuel just because the risk of failure is low and the jobs for it are well defined.
The social imbalance is needed for progress.
But we need to make sure those at the bottom are not stuck. That is where the problem is.

Comment Re: Read some Engels (Score 1, Insightful) 457

Marx and Engels big mistake was in not realizing that despite the abuse heaped upon them, the powers that be at that time recognized at the very least that the notion of class struggle as a driver of history had at least some merits. Marx fully expected a series of revolutions in the latter half of the 19th century, and in some cases it almost came true, but then suddenly you see several nations, even the Austro-Hungarian Empire, for goodness sake, enacting liberal constitutions. In Britain, in particular, within 20 years of the Communist Manifesto's release, the Reform Act of 1867 greatly expanded the voting franchise, enfranchising a large number of working class members. This inoculated a good deal of Europe against any kind of Socialist Revolution.

What went really wrong for Marx's economic and political theories was that first Communist states were fundamentally agrarian states; Russia and China. These, even by Marx's own theories, were not yet at a point of economic evolution that they should become Communist, and in fact, the Communist rulers of these states, to keep with Marxist ideas of evolution, had to introduce vast industrial programs, almost trying to create a Bourgeois middle class just so they could fulfill the checkboxes on Communist revolution. The industrialized states that became Communist were pretty much the states that the Soviet Union forced into its sphere after the Second World War, and who had initially gained their industrial capacity through fundamentally capitalist means.

No one has ever actually seen a Communist revolution the way Marx foresaw such a revolution happening, mainly because, as I say above, the Western nations, whether intentionally or by accident, liberalized sufficiently that the working classes could join political parties, or form new ones (like the Labour Party in Britain). I like to imagine that Disraeli, crafty fox that he was, was at least partially cognizant of the potential for a revolution if Westminster didn't let at least some of the lower classes in, and it wasn't all about just taking the piss out of Gladstone.

Comment Re:Read some Engels (Score 3, Insightful) 457

You are aware that the last three or so generations, at least in the West, are overall the richest human beings that have ever lived. Yes, some are a lot richer than others, but the mean still is so much greater than the past that it's pretty stunning. Only the most impoverished go without food, and even the relatively poor have what can only be described as luxuries.

That's not to say any of it is perfect, or that there aren't people with boatloads of money that really should have that money. There are issues surrounding tax shelters (legal or illegal), corporate influence on politics, and many other issues, but to imagine those just go away because you produce some new economic system is absurd. The one thing Communism did teach the world is that there is always a way for people to get rich and use their wealth to influence the system. Changing the rules just means the greedy and powerful find some new way to game the system, or, if you get rid of the wealthy, some new group rises to the challenge and supplants them.

So I'm all for a fairer society, but we've seen enough "utopian" systems to realize that there is no such thing as Utopia, and trying to bring up the lower classes by bringing down the upper classes never ends up the way you thought it would.

As The Who so aptly put it, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..."

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