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Comment Re:Air Crew hours are priceless (Score 1) 164

Iran one of the largest manufacturers and operators of drones they have been quite ineffective

Iran is neither one of the largest manufacturers nor operators of drones.

The biggest manufacturers (and also operators) of combat drones:
-General Atomics Aeronautical Systems (US)
-Northrop Grumman (US)
-Baykar Technologies (Turkey)
-Israel Aerospace Industries
-Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group (China)

Even Ukraine is ahead of Iran in both categories. Maybe Iran's drone tech just suck donkey balls.

Comment Re:Air Crew hours are priceless (Score 1) 164

Yeah, well that's what happens when they want you to stay within a budget but also force everyone to spend 3x as much on everything because of very poorly negotiated govt. contracts. Being a card holder for my unit's GCPC in the Air Force was one of the worst experiences ever. Need office supplies? Can't just go to the store and get the office supplies I actually like to use, no. I have to use their shitty portal to order stuff I don't want to have for more money than the stuff I want costs.

Comment Re:Air Crew hours are priceless (Score 1) 164

You do not seem to understand the navigational problem and skill level here. Multiple waypoints, time on target is not simple thing. Now add in aerial rendezvous for different aircraft type.

I don't give a shit. None of it needs to happen near populated areas of civilians.

I'm not referring to money spent elsewhere, just money spent on pilots in the air.

And if the military was better at money management, they could afford to get all of their pilots the hours in the air they deserve/want, but they blow their budget on useless bullshit and garbage contacts that force mandatory purchases to be made from places like SKILCRAFT (who make the world's worst toilet paper).

As I said you don't understand the point of the training.

Flyovers of populated areas of citizens does not have a valid point. If they start doing shitty flyovers in my town, I'll start using lasers to try and take them down. I do not give a fuck.

Not against Ukraine which until very very recently has been pretty much on par technologically. I think their first F-16 aerial victory was recently, and it was a particularly old version of the F-16.

Well, then you don't remember the Ghost of Kyiv from very early in the war that was taking out Russians left and right using a MiG-29. The only thing advantage Russia has ever had is sheer numbers.

Comment Re:Air Crew hours are priceless (Score 1) 164

And the flyovers overwhelmingly also being valid training exercises is quite relevant to that.

Except they aren't valid training.

That is the exception not the rule for these flyovers. Normally they count as standard training hours.

No, the military is always bad at managing money. It's why they limit their pilot training because they're too busy wasting the money on other useless bullshit.

Actually, doing some time-on-target training over a specific urban target is useful. Targets are sometime urban, not desert.

Don't fucking care. I don't ask, or consent, to be included in their shitty exercises, so don't be practicing near my skies.

Iran was a major supplier and user of drones.

Irrelevant.

US pilots being more capable than Russian pilots seems to make a difference. BTW, Russian pilots are often even more starved of flight hours.

It doesn't matter how many hours Russian pilots get because all Russian vehicles and equipment are basically trash. They lose by default.

Comment Re:Air Crew hours are priceless (Score 1) 164

The point is it doesn't usually cost any additional money.

The question was never about *additional* costs, just THE cost. It's not the taxpayers' fault that the military (and government in general) mismanages the money and doesn't give their pilots enough training hours.

The pilots have to train either way

No one said they don't. However, they also don't need to do their training anywhere near populated areas.

No military pilot is happy with the actually hours they get in the air.

I don't care.

They all want more hours to further sharpen their skills.

Which is increasingly irrelevant with the advances in drone technology.

Comment Re:Multi-waypoint time-on-target is military train (Score 1) 164

Nope. It matters not whether a cross country multi-waypoint formation flight happens over an empty desert or a city football stadium. Its still a cross country navigation exercise. And in this military case there is also a precise time-on-target (arrive at a precise predetermined time) component. Multi-waypoint, time on target, this is a military training exercise from the pilot's perspective. Sometimes you can do two things at once.

Doesn't matter. Either way it's costing taxpayers money. An F16 costs around $3,000 in just fuel alone. So, the hourly cost to taxpayers for flying an F16 literally cannot be "usually zero" as you said.

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