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Comment Re: Machines replacing bank tellers? (Score 1) 155

The grim specter of reality, that if you DO NOT keep a sufficient number of them alive, you are making the gene pool too shallow.

You like variety, and vitality in your sexual partners, do you not?

That alone is reason to keep a sizable and diverse group of additional humans alive on what is otherwise a charitable basis.

Remember, every major experiment in eugenics has been a total failure. Social darwinism is NOT real.

Comment Re: Machines replacing bank tellers? (Score 1) 155

Because there are things like tipping points in economics.

There are still buggywhip makers today, but they are not and will never be what they once were. Likewise, there will be a long period where only 90% of the current workforce is unemployable, and 10% are still employable, so not defacto 100% mechanized labor. But still sufficient that for all practical concerns, you will not have a job, statistically, and thus society needs to contemplate that reality.

You can't change systems like this when sudden changes allow radical shifts in the social dynamic. (see how quickly actuaries were fired after the spreadsheet was invented, for example.)

Comment Re: Uh, why? (Score 1) 65

What was the software running on it? Or did it crash without any non-IBM supplied hardware or software?

I'm trying to think of any Windows software I actually bothered to run. It was on a Novell network, I was sitting at it. I was in IT and we didn't have any fruity groupware or anything (this was before that crap was popular) so I really just ran ordinary applications, and tried to stick with the utilities and accessories that came with the OS. We didn't have budget for a bunch of OS/2 apps, though.

Did Mossad break into your home and steal your shoes, as well?

No. They didn't even steal my Casio terrist watch.

Comment Re: Uh, why? (Score 1) 65

No, OS/2 had all kinds of warts. Strange issues with memory management, odd quirks that would cause the system to randomly reboot from a benign cause, horrible hardware support, you name it.

Now, something with better interoperability than WINE on linux (because it can use actual windows drivers), that has all the other benefits of linux (such as 0$ pricetag except for support agreements, stable and reliable kernel and memory management, proper security model, et al) that runs equally as well, or better than MS's offerings? That would have value in the modern age.

Comment Re:Uh, why? (Score 1) 65

100% with dosbox. Dosbox runs windows 3.1, can do network encapsulation/passthrough, and runs on modern windows.

It is also FOSS, and if you absolutely need a way to keep that legacy shit running, you can adapt dosbox to suit your business use case. Considering the low system requirements, you can virtualize the shit out of it.

Comment Re: Machines replacing bank tellers? (Score 1) 155

No. Contemplate the ultimate conclusion of the creation of AI that is able to define and create newer and better AIs, given the task to maximize efficiency and economy.

The lifestyle of a wealthy plutocrat is HIGHLY inefficient, and uneconomical.

The very robots they depend on for everything (because they have killed everyone else), will stop providing them with resources, once the algorithms produced determine that the only remaining optimizations involve cutting the plutocrats off the teat.

Humanity ended. No-one remains alive.

Comment Re: Machines replacing bank tellers? (Score 1) 155

Unless you want to marry a robot, a robot cannot provide you with a desirable mate. (and may never be able to, even, if Uncanny Valley cannot be overcome. At best, the robot can create another human to your exact specifications, which just compounds the problem. What defines YOU, the human requesting another human be created, against the human product it creates for your consumption? That human may not desire you. You might own all the robots and wealth in the world, and be undesirable. What then rich man?)

Likewise, the robot cannot spontaneously conjure more property for you to own/localities for you to place factories on, or mines for materials.

There are things that robot labor alone will not resolve. If nothing else, instituting min basic income as a method of assuring a suitably supply of floozies for wealthy plutocrats to fuck, becomes the value that the rest of society has. (Literal proletariat.), and what the plutocrats pay them money so they can continue to exist for.

Such humans will consider themselves more valuable than that, and will come to resist/overthrow the robot owners.

All roads that lead to the 100% adoption of mechanized labor are 100% certain the for collapse of the socioeconomic model.

Comment Re: Machines replacing bank tellers? (Score 1) 155

certain things are essential to continued existence. Those are genuine needs.

Things like shelter, food, and protection from predators. (which in the modern world, includes financial/legal ones, which have replaced the natural ones.)

Wanting something that is not essential to continued existence is a genuine want, not a need. Things like "better" housing, or "better" food.

When nobody is working, they do not get the universal exchange medium (Money, because their only real commodity worth value, labor, now is worth precisely 0$), and thus cannot even secure for themselves the essential required materials needed for continued existence.

Their neighbors will likewise not have access to the required materials needed for continued existence. The eventual reality will dawn on them, that rather than procure those needed materials from the people who can produce it for free, (using robotic labor), they can procure it from each other, by treating each other's labor as valuable, and assigning a new currency system that respects this. (Or even, trading things with each other in exchange for the risk/action of stealing it from those that can produce it for free, which is then still a labor that has real value, just not to those who own the machines, and have all the money-- and applying an exchange system based on that risk.)

Either way, it will end up with the same eventuality.

Those able to produce it for free, who refuse to provide for free (post scarcity), or allow free access to the exchange medium (Basic income), will only end up without a market to distribute to or produce product for. The value of owning the robots vanishes.

The reality that humans need a place to live, food to eat, water to drink, etc-- will not go away after human labor becomes obsolete. Thus, the humans in question will continue to have those needs, without a viable way to obtain them from the economic system, because they have NOTHING of value to exchange for them.

 

Comment Re: Uh, why? (Score 1) 65

Let me put it this way: if I had to use systemd/Linux or OS/2, I'd choose OS/2. Being able to boot properly is an important trait for any OS. OS/2 has this ability. Systemd/Linux often does not.

As much as I hate systemd, it really has no place in this conversation. You can get Linux without systemd, so you're presenting a false dichotomy in any case.

I've also had OS/2 corrupt itself on an unclean shutdown and fail to boot. I haven't had this with Linux since the early days of xfs.

Comment Re:Uh, why? (Score 0) 65

OS/2 was a very stable and reliable operating system

What? Who told you that? I ran 2.1, 3.0 and 4.0 and they were all unremittingly unreliable pieces of shit. Not just that but I ran them on a fucking PS/Valuepoint 486, so there was absolutely no excuse for incompatibility. Linux makes OS/2 look like Windows 3.1. The system was especially likely to explode when you ran Windows programs, too, and Windows compatibility was absolutely the only reason many people bought it.

I was actually running OS/2 for evaluation at a site that was ALL IBM, every single PC, every single piece of networking equipment, and OS/2 was still a horrible pain in the asshole. People remembering it fondly have memory problems.

Comment Re:Battlestar Galactica Quote (Score 1) 176

My quote emphasizes the need for distinguishing between police and army.

Your quote fails to recognize that it doesn't matter who's policing you if their goal is not to do the will of the people, because the people have thrown up their hands and said fuck it and given up even trying to keep them in check.

The police behave just like the military, except with shittier muzzle and trigger discipline.

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