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Comment Re:So AI agents get a pass? (Score 1) 94

There is at present no such thing as a self driving car. There are only cars that automate some aspects of driving with human supervision or where autonomous operation is managed by humans and limited to designated areas. Humans are still responsible for driving including the automated taxi companies who are very much getting dinged for the transgressions of their vehicles.

Sure, if you want to be completely wrong you can make that claim. In reality Waymos are not under human supervision. They contact humans for support when their self-driving system disengages. That's a very different thing.

Perhaps you simply misread my statement. Waymo falls into the "or where autonomous operation is managed by humans and limited to designated areas" category. Otherwise I have no clue what you think is "completely wrong".

There is no single human responsible for Waymos and this has been an ongoing issue with law enforcement who have been unable to issue any tickets to cars without drivers. Where Waymo has been punished, it's been under specific provisions of specific laws created for self diving vehicles - which is exactly my point.

Waymo is responsible for Waymos. What you are doing is reading cherry picked press accounts of fleeting technical issues in certain jurisdictions that have already been mostly corrected and drawing generalizations from them that are frankly unmoored from reality.

No it's not. In virtually all jurisdictions traffic violations apply to the person driving the vehicle, and not the vehicle itself.

Waymo is driving the vehicle.. In a Tesla the driver is driving the vehicle regardless of whether the car is controlling the vehicle.

You don't need to take my word for it. Just look up how many traffic violations Waymo has committed and how many fines they have had to pay as a result.

I looked into this and at least Texas, Tennessee, Arizona, Georgia and California can all issue traffic violations to Waymo. I don't know about all jurisdictions.. got tired of looking.

So no certainly not "virtually all" and your previous statement "The laws as written currently do not cover a situation outside of direct human control and intent." is also incorrect.

Comment Re:What a disgusting show (Score 1) 55

And, incidentally, the EU already has pretty reasonable regulation. Copy that.

I like the parts of EU regulation preventing the application of AI for surveillance/scoring/judgement of people. Remaining bulk of it is pointless bureaucratic nonsense... not that it matters given EU is completely irrelevant in this space anyway.

Comment Re: Systemic problem bigger than Flock here... (Score 1, Insightful) 66

It's not even risky for what they are paid. Being a janitor is MUCH more likely to kill you and doesn't pay nearly as well. Fuck their crying about the job. Being an RV repairman is more dangerous as well, working on gas and electrical and being on the roofs of wobbly RVs, I've done that so I don't want to hear any shit about cops' job being dangerous. Fucking crybabies should try getting a real job.

Comment Re: This will never do... not scary enough (Score 1) 94

Until the computers have resources enough to outnumber us, we will be a hazard to them, and therefore a problem to be solved... But probably a simple one. Just invade the network of one of these biotech companies with a DNA printer and boop boop boop we're gone.

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