PS3 OS Wasn't Final at TGS 81
LifesBlood writes "The PlayStation 3 operating system used at the Tokyo Game Show was apparently not final. Sony confirmed to GameDaily BIZ that the company has been in the process of finalizing it and that just like the Wii's OS, it will be upgradeable in the future." From the article: "We were told that this should not affect PS3 production whatsoever. Moreover, SCEA does not believe that the state of the OS at TGS had anything to do with the system resets or other glitches that some witnessed. Sony reiterated that it was the confined cases and other unfriendly trade show conditions that caused problems with the consoles. In addition, Sony said it has the capability to upgrade the PS3's OS after the console launches through its online network, memory stick files or Blu-ray discs."
No biggie, still over a month left! (Score:5, Funny)
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http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?gwp=13&s=sarc
Software IS easy (Score:2, Funny)
All you gotta do is write some code.
Expectations and software (Score:3, Interesting)
Do you thing hardware is easy?? It ain't, and it's tougher than software by miles. Why is it that hardware has to be perfect at all price points and "low cost" software has no such duty? I'll give you the answer: programmers are lazy. Programmers have been lazy for so long that even users have no expectation of quality for software. And software publishers have been so good at backing lazy prog
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lol (Score:2)
Sony copies Nintendo... again (Score:3, Insightful)
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Is it just me... (Score:5, Insightful)
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And I don't want any of my consoles hooked to the net, period. If it needs updates, I likely won't purchase it.
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Bugs are just a fact of life when dealing with any nontrivial program. Personally I'd rather have the ability to download an update compared to having to just deal with it or worse purchase a disc with the updates (I'm looking at you, Morrowind for Xbox)
The QA process should still be treated like you can't release future updates, but denying that ability altogether is just stupid.
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There's still plenty of PS2/GC/XBox games I need to play, I don't need to go to the next gen for a long time.
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I'd doubt that any game more complex than an early Atari 2600 title can claim to have shipped bug free.
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They will fix bugs alright, but it all depends on your definition of "bug". If your system can run emulators to have it play games rather than watch UMD movies (*cough* PSP *cough*), then it is a "bug" and you bet it will be "patched" soon. That's the kind of patching they want, not the kind that actually makes the console more usa
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Let's consider this scenario. It's unlikely as hell, but entirely possible.
-Per
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Oblivion problems, well those are
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It's not just the programmer that's involved though.
From the programming perspective the hardest part is the multi-player code after that networking and/or split screen is pretty easy. I suspect the system libraries take care of the hard stuff anyway.
The main difference with split screen and network is not with the programming it's with the art direction and QA. With a network version the screen is the same as the single player version, so everything can be re-used. With a split screen, the screen real-es
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Re:Is it just me... (Score:5, Interesting)
While it's hard to imagine someone spending $500-600 on a PS3 and then not connecting it to the Internet (where, presumably, OS updates would come through automagically), still, if there are showstopping OS bugs left when the PS3 ships then people are [rightly] going to be upset.
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Presumably Sony could ship firmware updates on Official PlayStation Magazine cover discs for those not wanting to put their PS3 online, else consumers (at least in the UK) could return their box as not being fit for purpose if an out-the-box update was required to make it usable.
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Future News from December :
Sony announces "controller design still not finalized. We should have our heads out of our asses by boxxing day."
Sorry, had to fix that
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a) Making sure nobody powers down the unit mid-upgrade (bad)
b) Making sure the upgrade doesn't create new bugs (really bad)
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I fully expect that the pirates / homebrewers will manage to brick a few systems just like they did with the PSP but that will be their own fault.
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As it has become possible to update computer games via the Internet, computer games have become steadily buggier. I don't think this is an accident.
Expect plenty of shoddy work and disappointment in the next generation of consoles.
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2) Your Famicom didn't *have* an OS, it just had a firmware. And it was effectively updated, since each cart would include its own OS code.
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The entire point of video game consoles is NOT to avoid updating them. The entire point of video game consoles is to have a video game device on your TV or in your entertainment center. If it has an OS? So be it. These days it needs one at least to throw up a menu, connect to the internet for multiplayer (unless every game wants it's own TCP/IP s
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You missed a big part: That is as easy to use as the TV it is attached to. Having to worry about upgrades negates that.
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Maybe that is the advantage of a console for a lot of PC Gamers TODAY, but when consoles first arrived.. who had a PC? Who had to upgrade the OS to play the games anyway?
Sony vs. Nintendo. (Score:4, Funny)
With Sony, it seems the reason they are mentioning that they can update the OS is to deal with bugs they expect to give to consumers in exchange for their hard-earned dollars.
Gee, thanks, Sony.
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Re:Sony vs. Nintendo. (Score:4, Insightful)
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It would be like me running a deli and telling a customer that it'll take me about 10 m
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No matter what happens, massive amounts of people will buy the PS3. Even now the fanboys are coming out of the woodwork to defend the honor of their precious PS3. Sony could anno
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Increased / Easier Modability? (Score:1)
Unification of PC and console (Score:3, Insightful)
At the same time Vista is going full-speed into unification and standardization of game interfaces, technologies, ratings and even unification of the hardware (you know DX10 is much stricter and there's no "we support 80% of DX10" - you either support all or none).
Xbox 360 has for it media center hub functionality, slick integration with Windows CE mobiles and XP/Vista (Live Anywhere), and sane price.
Wii has a unique approach to gaming and control interfaces.
I wonder what PS3 has. Fast processor and updateable OS? Well I have this on my PC.
The thing that keeps PS3 going (I hope) will be the brand loyalty, and, with some luck, some good exclusive games.
Tough call for Sony, but I wish them good luck with it, if even only for the good old times.
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Rootkit on Demand (Score:1, Troll)
What do people expect? (Score:3)
It would be stupid if the PS3 didn't do it. Not only would it mean you'd be stuck with bugs forever, but you never get new features. The PSP got some substantial new functionality such as web browser, AAC playback, location free etc. through firmware. I'd be pissed if a console in this day and age *didn't* offer it.
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Games going gold with non-final OS and hardware (Score:2)
REASONS for buying a PS3 early (Score:1, Funny)
2. Get to find all the bugs it shipped with
3. Controller may or may not respond the way you expect
4. Game manual may not accurately tell you how to do something, since the OS wasn't final.
but, most importantly
5. PROFIT! (for Sony)
remember those PSPs??? (Score:1)
For me the lesson is be ware of Sony
Updates (Score:1)
just what im looking forward to.... (Score:5, Funny)
I predict that symantec will magically find the first ps3 and wii viruses about a week after launch..if not before. Luckily with the online stores for all 3 vendors we can buy and download our "virus protection" for a small fee from the convenience of our gamepads.
Obligatory Nintendo Fanboy Reaction (Score:1, Troll)
Good news to me. (Score:2, Informative)
As far as the games coming out while the OS isn't set in stone, don't worry. Typically games come with all the software they need to drive the hardware directly, so they interact with the OS fir
In other news... (Score:2)
Imagine the sheer balls on Sony (my employer, disclamer etc.) releasing unfinished software to the masses! How evil of them! I'm astounded, gutted, horrified, etc.
Keep FUDing boys, it entertains us semi-rational folks
Bigger worries ahead (Score:1)
xbox360's OS? (Score:1)
Is that to imply that the 360's OS is not upgradable? I own a 360, and knew there were... updates to be had; game updates, Dashboard updates, so i then assumed that the OS was as well. Is that not true?
Gotta love it (Score:1)