Political Pop-ups, and Follow the Money 380
finelinebob writes "Now we know why Bush wants broadband for everyone: The Republican National Committee plans on bringing the campaign to Internet pop-up ads. From the article: 'Internet experts said that Republicans have entered a new realm of campaigning. Pop-up and pop-under ads of any variety haven't been around long, and little data exist to suggest how voters might respond to uninvited interruptions.' Okay, folks -- get your pop-up blocking browsers now!" While you're waiting for your first pop-up, pop on over to a website that tracks campaign contributions: vVF4N writes "Fundrace 2004 lets you enter any street address and see what people at or near that location have contributed to a presidential candidate, along with their addresses and occupations. The data is based on reports that campaigns regularly file with the Federal Election Commission. You can also look up a name and get the same information. The Washington Post (registration required) has more. Find out who your friends and neighbors are contributing to."
Pop ups (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Pop ups (Score:4, Interesting)
Seriously.... (Score:3, Interesting)
Now that's optimistic! If you've got a prostitution ring in Thailand that specializes in the anal rape of baby monk seals, you just have to launder the money before you buy the politician.
Randomly enough. They admit this is an experiment and they don't know what they're doing, but they've got, and I shit you not, so much money, that it makes it a perfect time to run the experiment. That's their actual, sai
Re:Pop ups (Score:4, Interesting)
The above was meant to be humorous toward the parent poster and a slight slam against our conservative leadership, which, if I may make an intelligent argument here, suck.
Re:Pop ups (Score:3, Interesting)
Vote Republican (Score:5, Funny)
Just hope they don't do it in Switzerland, too... (Score:5, Interesting)
Each couple of month, in Switzerland we're supposed to vote about a dozen of laws, laws change and other subjects.
Just imagine the desktop mess if swiss politician start to make pop-up like the american : not just two pop-ups for two candidate, but dozens of pop-ups about pro and cons for each subjet.
Now THAT'S going to make a big wreckage on the desktop ! I think people will start to hate democracy... or make Mozilla the official nationnal browser for it's ad-blocking...
They are sponsoring pop-up for their *opponents*! (Score:3, Funny)
That's the point. They are sending pop-ups for their opponents, stupid!
Yay! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Yay! (Score:2)
California's Bill Jones Spammed last time (Score:5, Informative)
So here in California, the Republicans already have lots of practice annoying Internet users. Let's hope they keep it up!
Re:Yay! (Score:2)
Well, let's wait a while... if it makes them unpopular, they'll stop it for sure. They can't afford losing their supporters. I guess they're just experimenting on a new idea, just like sending spam is. I personally never received their spam yet, but some people actually welcomed it. Unsure about the pop-up ads though.
*groan! (Score:4, Funny)
Wonder if the internet usage policy will classify Dubya with his silly grin as "distasteful, objectionable content"
Republican Popups Taking Over Your Screen (Score:5, Funny)
Re:repeatatron (Score:3, Insightful)
more *groan! (Score:5, Funny)
Pop-up and pop-under ads of any variety haven't been around long ... ???
They've been around TOO long. More specifically, they have been around, period.
Re:*groan! (Score:3, Funny)
According to some porn filters [dansdata.com], yes, pictures of GWB are vile pornography. =)
Re:*groan! (Score:2)
Gore Vs Bush [jibjab.com]
Re:Could be worse (Score:2)
Oh bloody hell (Score:5, Funny)
I'd prefer a 12" penis any day!
Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:4, Interesting)
And now, just to rub it in, they're going to pop up their campaign ads at me. Brilliant.
Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:2, Insightful)
Don't get too excited by this, we have fifty of them here.
Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:2)
Except for the fact that the peopel livign in those 50 can still vote.. not that it really makes a difference this time.. (hmm. come to think of it, it didn't matter much last time either)
Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:3, Informative)
What, you mean like Washington D.C.? From the pages of the first site [dcvote.org] that popped up when I googled:
District of Columbia citizens have no representation of any kind in the US Senate and only a nonvoting delegate to the US House of Representatives. US citizens who live in Washington, DC, have no voting representation on the national issues considered by Congress. Furthermore, since Congress also acts as Washington's "state" legislature, local c
Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:2, Informative)
In my experience this is quite random. In my case (I'm Swiss), I get quite a variety of adds, beside the one for the US, I get some for France and some for Germany, nothing for Italy yet (Italian is the third langage spoken in Switzerland). At least I seem not to get proposals to move my money to a Swiss bank a
MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (Score:2, Interesting)
Freeware. http://www.myie2.com
Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (Score:4, Insightful)
Also IMO Firefox has a nicer interface.
Note: MyIE2 does also support the Gecko engine in recent versions but enabling it isn't obvious and there's a few bugs in the integration.
Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (Score:4, Informative)
If you download an extension/theme, you have to immeadiately restart the browser to clear the install queue.
Otherwise when you download the next one, you will get *TWO" restart messages (and increasing each time)
This bug WILL be fixed by 1.0, and is hardly what you call serious, and better by far than IE, which requires to you restart the system at times.
Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (Score:2, Informative)
Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (Score:2)
Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (Score:2)
Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (Score:3, Informative)
I'll personally stick to Firefox, but in the few days I've been running the SP2 RC1 on my windows box, I have to say I'm impressed, and it's a step in the right direc
Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (Score:5, Insightful)
You do realize, right, that the point of using Mozilla Firefox is not just popup blocking. In fact, it's going to be hard to market Firefox on the aspect of pop-up blocking when you have options like you mentioned and the Google toolbar.
For me, the point of using Firefox is having a browser that I don't need to worry about. When I use IE, I'm not sure whether the next link will take me to an exploit. Or some annoying script. I don't really have that worry with Firefox....not yet..
Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (Score:2)
Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (Score:2)
block ads with a hosts file (Score:3, Informative)
Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (Score:3, Informative)
easier, faster and you can issue rules to all broswers instantly
Let Me Guess... (Score:3, Funny)
Oh, what about Nader, you ask? He won't use computers. Apparently they pollute or something. He wants monitors banned because of their adverse health effects, too. But, his rumbling will be heard across the world anyways, so don't you worry!
DMCA (Score:4, Insightful)
Vote for Bush, vote for the DMCA.
Nader ran against the DMCA in 2000, I can't see why he'd change his mind in 2004.
Kucinich, too, ran against the DMCA. Pity nobody cared.
Re:DMCA (Score:2)
. . . DMCA . . . DMCA . . . DMCA . . . DMCA . . .
The only thing worse than the two-party system is all the one-issue voters.
Re:DMCA (Score:2, Interesting)
After all, only a conspiracy theorist would point to Skull and Bones. ;-)
Okay, folks -- get your pop-up blocking browsers.. (Score:5, Funny)
Found My Boss on there (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Found My Boss on there (Score:2)
Re:Found My Boss on there (Score:4, Interesting)
it's all making some sense... (Score:5, Funny)
bush: okay!
cia: and americans love pop-up ads!
bush: okay!
Re:it's all making some sense... (Score:3, Insightful)
cia: We can't find any evidence for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
bush: Find some!!
Thanks Bush (Score:5, Funny)
Giving people a reason to ditch IE and run Firefox!
Still he's not getting my vote, well as I'm English I couldn't anyway!
Re:Thanks Bush (Score:2, Funny)
That which Gore giveth, Bush shall take away. So shall be scripted, so shall be so.
-- This should definetly result in the loss of my artistic license.
coming up next: campaign spam (Score:5, Funny)
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follow the money (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:follow the money -- it's a good thing... (Score:3, Interesting)
A quick lookup of my street address was extremely insightful. I recognized many of the names from my years in the business community and guess what? Most of the Republican donors are owners and officers of companies who have been laying off workers (and outsourcing their work) with most contributing $2000 checks from every person in their household. The Dems, on the o
Re:follow the money (Score:2)
Reminds of of their "anti-spam" provisions (Score:4, Interesting)
At that level, I wouldn't be surprised if popup blockers and filters against political spam were somehow to run afoul of DMCA (circumvention devices!) and friends. You MUST view this popup, we're checking! Honest!
No don't block popups! (Score:2)
Re:No don't block popups! (Score:3, Informative)
So I guess Slashdot (Score:2, Insightful)
That being said, that's two articles on the current main page posted by michael that have an anti-Bush tone to them. I guess michael doesn't care about being "fair and balanced" as a journalist.
Re:So I guess Slashdot (Score:2)
Any idiot who thinks the Republicans are the only ones planning to use the internet (or any advertising available to them) is just plain dumb... or just has their head in the sand.
Re:So I guess Slashdot (Score:2)
Viarga Now! (Score:2, Funny)
My wife..er.. financier strong recommends it...
If I were Bush, I would be a bit wary about (Score:4, Insightful)
Extensive reading, but just read line by line.
Of course, though, we know that the GOP has done better in communicating their message [npr.org], while the Democrats continue to fail Influence 101 [w-uh.com]...a sad sight.
Bill is a cheapskate (Score:2, Flamebait)
William H. Gates
CEO
Microsoft Corp.
George W. Bush
$2,000
1 Microsoft Way Redmond, WA 98052
GWB saved Gates' shiny white hind, and all he gives in return is 2000 dollars. Ingrateful sod!
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Re:Bill is a cheapskate (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Bill is a cheapskate (Score:4, Insightful)
brotherly love? (Score:3, Interesting)
Zing!
Re:brotherly love? (Score:2)
Great news for Kerry voters (Score:3, Informative)
If they want to alienate voters and come off as money-hungry vultures, then pop-ups and spam are the way to go.
Its pretty ironic when Bush has over 100 million sitting in his war chest, which has broken all previous records. Thats what you get for pandering to big business for almost four years, a nice return on your investment.
They must not actually use the net... (Score:2, Interesting)
It's similiar to how so many of the top spammers admit to being computer illiterate before discovering spam as a way to make money. And it's the same reason scalpers are rarely fans of the band or sports team they sell tickets for. Anyone with a vested interest in the activity will not want to destroy it.
Alright, I'll admit t
Nothing changes (Score:3, Funny)
now i know who my neighbors vote for (Score:5, Insightful)
I had a knee-jerk reaction to browsing this database filled with no less than a dozen of my friends', families', and aquaintances' political affiliations with corresponding addresses. My inner-self cried "INVASION OF PRIVACY! ABORT! ABORT!"
I then took a mental step back, collected my wits, and clicked the "Privacy" link. lo and behold: [fundrace.org]
Upon further investigation it becomes apparent that this site is a Very Good Thing(tm). It is a bastion of democracy.
Fundrace, I salute you.
Fundrace (Score:2)
Re:Fundrace (Score:2)
Figures, though. First your vote doesn't count, now your bribe doesn't even count. Hmmph.
Easy fix? (Score:2)
Safari! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Safari! (Score:2)
It is but pop-ups are not blocked by default.
Our favorite neighbors... (Score:3, Funny)
A touch of irony... (Score:3, Funny)
Ho hum...
Now I have two reasons not to contribute (Score:2, Insightful)
(2) If a contribution is going to reveal my HOME ADDRESS then you can fuggeddaboutit!
the political funding database is incomplete (Score:3, Funny)
How about let's cut out the political speech here (Score:2, Insightful)
Republicans and conservatives (on slashdot) are traeted like the Klan treated ... well ... I'll lket you fill in th rest. It's already bad enough that this will either get modded into troll oblivion or offtopic just because I said the words "
Classic Star Trek Episode (Score:2)
It reminds me of my favorite classic Star Trek episode. They visit a planet that has warring races. Captain Kirk brings a leader from each side onto the Enterprise to negotiate a peace treaty - they refuse to get along. Finally, Kirk says, "You know, I don't understand, you guys seem to really like each other and not have any differences at all... so what's wrong?" One leader says, "I thought you knew, it's so obvious, Kirk I am offended... is that question a joke? Can't you see, he's black on the left side
Re:How about let's cut out the political speech he (Score:5, Insightful)
Be sure to click! (Score:3, Interesting)
Certainly do not use popup blockers for this, on the contrary, bring them up, click, bring'em up again and click click until you're tired -- it'll cost them money for each click... I reckon we could even have a "Click The Bush" campaign in which good net citizens would click on those ads several times a day to help rid the world of this pestilence :)
Fundrace 2004 = VERY VERY SCARY (Score:5, Interesting)
Jane works in a law firm. Jane likes dennis kucinich. Jane's boss, a partner, likes GW Bush.
Jane's boss can only contribute up to the maximum personal limit of $2000 or whatever it is. But, he can strongly suggest to jane and others that it might be in jane's career interest to do the same.
now, the boss can check up on jane with this handy web site. of course, nobody has forced jane to do anything, but still, the boss can check up to see what kind of 'team player' she is.
this is TRULY scary. do a search of your loal neighborhood and see how many lawyers' names come up.
Re:Fundrace 2004 = VERY VERY SCARY (Score:5, Informative)
Nope, 100% illegal. We have labor laws in place that prohibit such coersion. If "Jane" feels that "Jane's Boss" is pressuring her to vote/contribute a certain way, that's grounds for an open-and-shut lawsuit.
Re:Fundrace 2004 = VERY VERY SCARY (Score:3, Insightful)
For example, other employees who given similar "career advice" could testify oh Jane's behalf.
Google bar missing some popups (Score:3, Interesting)
Will the political campaigns be that mischievous? Republicans might, because apparently they don't understand the internet [aberdeennews.com]. Democrats won't be so dumb. The primaries were an excellent crash course in internet fund raising, and they are way ahead of the game.
Look out for the program installs. (Score:2, Funny)
Diebold, Inc. [blackboxvoting.org]
Publisher authenticity verified by Karl Rove.
Caution: William Diebold asserts that this content is safe. You should only install/view this content if you trust William Diebold to make that assertion.
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Constitutional amendment (Score:3, Funny)
Our Favorite Characters (Score:5, Interesting)
Bill Gates - CEO Microsoft - Republican [fundrace.org]
Steve Ballmer - President Microsoft - Republican [fundrace.org]
Hilary Rosen - Consultant & President RIAA - Democrat [fundrace.org]
Jack Valenti - President MPAA - Democrat [fundrace.org]
Darl McBride - President SCO Group - Thankless Bastard [fundrace.org]
re: Our Favorite Characters (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Our Favorite Characters (Score:3, Funny)
Interesting: One Microsoft Way 98052 (Score:3, Insightful)
If you look [fundrace.org] at all the people who donated to Bush from Microsoft, its all VP's and high level management that get paid the big bucks and donated the max of $2000, but most the ones that contributed to other candidates are all lower paid blue-collar from programmers to trainers and could only donate $200-$500 dollars..
What does that tell you about a "bush" economy.. other than those that are benefiting are the ones that are already able to retire..
I'll be glad to see bush go.. not that I'm a Kerry supporter.. but I'm just tired of all the crap.
SCO attacks IBM w/o proof.. Bush attacks Iraq w/o Proof... which one do you think will get away with it, without any consequences?
Finally, a Pop-Up I'll click on... (Score:3, Funny)
I Promise to single-handedly make any web site feeding a Bush pop-up rich beyond their wildest dreams with click-thru revenue.
Of course, I'll vote for Anybody But Bush.
I'll waste his money and put him out of a job just like he wastes my money and keeps me out of a job.
That's the only way we can stop political pop-ups: No Return On Investment. Let's give them some 'hard data' to show them it's not worth it!
Re:defences & backfires (Score:2)
Yes, but only for scams and high profit items like cheapo plastic penis pumps that cost pennies to produce and sell for 20-100 dollars.
On top of that, the spam you get in your mailbox is usually from an open proxy, thus it probably wouldnt be profitable if the senders actually paid for their own bandwidth, opt-out servers, etc.
Legitimate ads aren't that profitable and spam is rarely profitable outside o
Re:Ah! A Democrat plot! (Score:2)
Hello? 'No strings attached' "liberation" from fascist right wing dictators, replacing said dictators with a form of government designed(in theory) to allow equality and freedom for all? tens of billions of dollars given for free, no strings attached to this desert country in the middle of nowhere? Largest deficit in US history?
Son, you've been DUPED. The republicans are just a bunch of useless pinko lefties in disguise.
Re:So now ... (Score:3, Interesting)
Democrats do the same. Most politicians within this two-party system do the same. They appeal to the lowest common denominator.
I used to feel that my intelligence was insulted everytime I heard a politician speak on an issue. Over time, I have realized that politicians must appeal to their bases: people who are fanatical about the political party to which they belong, which makes them too blind to examine the issues beyond taking thei
Re:Gates & Ballmer (Score:4, Insightful)
How sad is it that I, in Canada, know this, yet all these Americans don't?