

What Jazz Records Would You Reccommend? 235
zmotula asks: "What Jazz records do you think are a must-have for a Jazz Geek? I've got about twenty records I really love (Kind of Blue by Miles Davis, Tijuana Moods by Charlie Mingus, Lush Life by John Coltrane, just to mention some) and I want to spend some more money on buying more. Alas, I can only afford buying around two CDs a month. What records do you think are essential?"
John Zorn. (Score:3, Funny)
Re:John Zorn. (Score:2)
If you like modern, beats and electronic oriented jazz, you should check out Nils Petter Molvaer [ecmrecords.com].
Simpsons Reference (Score:2)
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Re:Simpsons Reference (Score:2)
What could be more geeky then that?
Gill Glover's Waking Life Sountrack... (Score:2)
Two Suggestions (Score:5, Informative)
Another suggestion I would make is listen to the Music Choice Jazz channels, which are available on most cable and dish systems(in the States at least) They play great music and have the song/album information.
Re:Two Suggestions (Score:2)
Get Dizzy. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Get Dizzy. (Score:2)
I think for the sort of jazz the author mentioned I would recomend anything that has the original recording of Ko-Ko by Charlie Parker. For this recording Miles was on trumpet, Max Roach on drums and the piano player was in jail. Dizzy was checking out what his buddy from the Charlie Barnet Orchestra was doing during this recording and listening whil
Let's See (Score:5, Informative)
"Mingus Ah Um" Charles Mingus
"Bitches Brew" Miles Davis (early acid jazz, very unnerving)
Try some big band stuff, you can't go wrong with anything by Duke Ellington.
You're definitely going to need some Thelonius Monk, John Coltrane, and Billie Holiday.
Re:Let's See (Score:2)
Re:Let's See (Score:2)
But then, I've always felt that "Weasels Ripped My Flesh" was one of Zappa's best, too.
Guess I have strange tastes
Re:Let's See (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Let's See (Score:2)
How could you leave out ... (Score:2)
With John Coltrane and Cannonball Adderly... This album was described as (my apologies for not knowing the origin) "The perfect album for playing at 2am on Saturday night when you're doing something you probably shouldn't be doing..."
It's the best selling Jazz album of all time, and deservedly so. It's a fantastic introduction to jazz.
I agree with Sketches in Spain being awesome. Also for good Zappa jazz try Hot Rats and Waka Jawaka.
Good Jazz Labels (Score:4, Informative)
Further if Creed Taylor produced it, buy it. If Rudy Van Gelder engineered it, for Chrissake buy it!
Getting CD reissues of a lot of these labels is not a problem, and you always guaranteed pretty good stuff. Also check out Emusic.com, they've got a pretty good selection of jazz in a hastle free (though sometimes crappy quality) mp3 format.
mcsey
Emusic has 128 Kb joint-stereo mp3s? What is this 1999?
Re:Good Jazz Labels (Score:2, Interesting)
As for a single album: "Mystery Lady" by Etta James. James is more well known for her Blues work, but this album of Billy Holiday tunes is spectacular.
Duke Ellington - Live at The Newport (Score:2)
Jazz? Well, if you must... (Score:2)
Re:Jazz? Well, if you must... (Score:2)
Coltrane, etc... (Score:2)
I have the Coltrane Impulse Years recordings and they're great. My Favorite Things is, of course, a must-have Coltrane album.
Most of the quality jazz music I can talk about intelligently is third-stream avant garde. Attaining the rank of "jazz geek" would have to include the following numbers. Milton Babbit has an interesting tune called All Set, Gunther Schuller makes some interesting use of the style in Seven Studies on Themes of Paul Klee along with others. And Stravinsky did excellent work in the Eb
Re:Coltrane, etc... (Score:2)
And one which I had 20 years ago on vinyl (it was stolen) which I have only just been able to get a new copy of on CD is Twin House, a a set of guitar duos recorded in 1976 by Larry Coryell and Philip Catherine. This CD (on the ACT label) has 5 "bonus" tracks to bump up the old 40-minute-LP format to ~65 minutes, but these tracks are totally out of keeping with the original album (
TWIN HOUSE ON CD! (Score:2)
This is great, great news. I drove through Yellowstone and half of Wyoming on a tape of Twin House. One CD I still haven't been able to find is Lambert, Hendricks and Ross -- a recording they did that had "Cloudburst","Centerpiece" and "Twisted" (amongst others).
My favorite Coltrane has always been Giant Steps , which shows up in the bargain bins all the time, as does a CD that has both Sonny Rollins albums Tenor Madness and Saxophone Collossus .
There's a delightful duo of Earl Hines and Stephan
Re:TWIN HOUSE ON CD! (Score:2)
I've been hunting for Lambert/Hendricks/Ross for a while, but so far no joy :-(
What about modern Jazz (Score:4, Informative)
Any Bela Fleck and the Flecktones.
You really can't go wrong here.
Jaco Pastorious in any form which includes solo albums and any Yellow Jackets CD you can find.
Victor Wooten
By far the best modern Jazz bassist around.Also part of Bela Fleck and the Flecktones
Stanley Jordan
This man is just amazing. Plays the guitar with both hands like its a piano. If you can find any of the live stuff you will defineatly be able to tell that it is live and he is just that good.
If you want more mellow stuff try John Pattatuci (spelling?). Modern Jazz bassist that plays with lots of emotion which most will translate into lullabies. Morons.
Can you tell that I am a bass player.
Re:What about modern Jazz (Score:4, Informative)
My personal idol, Michael Brecker [michaelbrecker.com]. My fav CD is Two Blocks From The Edge. On there is Delta City Blues which shows Mr. Brecker's extraordinary control over his overtones... It is phenominal!
Also, try Joshua Redmond's Wish. He playes with (among others) Pat Matheny who is always a treat. I know it might sound corny, but you ought to listen to their version of Tears in Heaven. Tasty!
Also:
Any GRP All-Star CD is worth your money. It's like having every big-time artist under the GRP label playing in one of the tightest big-band's ever. I'm just surprised they could keep their egos in check!
Dave Grusin Presents: West Side Story is a remake of the original, but (in my opinion) is better than the original soundtrack.
Hope someone found these helpful.
P.S. It is always the best to get CD's of people you have played live with. I have played with Patitucci, Jim Widner, The Jazz Ambassadors, and other less-known yet still stellar guys.
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Re:What about "modern" Jazz????? (Score:3, Informative)
Since I think you are talking about Joshua Redmond, I just want to let you know that back when Wish was released, he was rated (don't ask me how, I don't remember exactly -- I think it was a contest of some sort) the number 2 sax player in the world. He might sound like MUZAK to the untrained ear, and Tears in Heaven might sound a be a little corny, that doesn't mean that he doesn't rock. However, I don't think I can say anything that will change your mind.
And you
Re:What about modern Jazz (Score:2)
Agree on Bela Fleck and the Flecktones, amazing stuff. Stanly Jordan has the chops, definately a pioneer. Wooten has blown me away as well. I must admit to not being as familiar as I should be with Pattatuci's work, maybe I need to 'sample' some.
Dave Holland!! (Score:2, Interesting)
His work with his quintet is really amazing- some of the finest ensemble playing anytime, by any standard. The style his group has developed is really wonderful; heavy on improvisation and eastern influences. Billy Kilson takes the drums from a "groove" role to the front of the ensemble - taking on almost melodic roles. Generally, there are multiple solos going on at any time. Even the written music sounds improvised.
This is some of the m
Re:What about modern Jazz (Score:2)
Can you guess what's on the cover?
Re:What about modern Jazz (Score:2)
To this list I would add some of my favorites, off the top of my head:
Frank Gambale - As excellent jazz guitar player who crosses over to rock styles sometimes... as much as I like his electric work, his acoustic stuff is even better. He oftens works with Stu Hamm (see below) and Steve Smith (who used to drum for Journey and is an accomplished jazz drummer).
Stu Hamm is my favorite jazz bassist. He's probably best known as
Re:What about modern Jazz (Score:3, Insightful)
The bassist for the Yellow Jackets is Jimmy Haslip, also a fine bassist (from what I hear; I haven't heard them myself.)
Tony Quarrington (Score:2)
It reminds me of Kind of Blue, but 'sweeter' and more 'earthy.' It is one of my favourite modern jazz albums to date.
Re:What about modern Jazz (Score:3, Interesting)
What about the real stuff? Jazz that only rehashes the past isn't jazz, IMO. Innovation is its life blood.
There are some great living players. Here are a few:
Not Recordings, But... (Score:3, Informative)
One show I love in particular is Blues Before Sunrise, played nationwide on Saturday night/Sunday morning (on East coast it's from 1 am to 6 am on Sunday). It has a website (either BBS.com or BluesBeforeSunrise.com) which includes info on where you can hear the show streamed over the net every week.
While these aren't recordings, I've found that NPR (and their competition, PRI) are GREAT at educating the listeners about the music they play and guiding people toward good artists and good recordings.
Single Cuts (Score:3, Informative)
- Body and Soul, by Coleman Hawkins
- Sing, Sing, Sing, by Benny Goodman at Carnegie Hall
- Someday My Prince Will Come, by Miles Davis
- Time Out, by Dave Brubeck
- Mercy, Mercy, Mercy, by Cannonball Adderly
Just my $.02 worth.
My Top Ten album (Score:4, Informative)
"Night Train" Oscar Peterson Verve 821 724-2
"Time Out" Dave Brubeck Columbia VCK 40585
"Birth of Cool" Miles Davis Capitol Jazz C2-92862
"A Love Supreme" John Coltrane MCA Impulse GRD155
"Getz / Gilberto" Stan Getz/Jao & Astrud Gilberto Verve 810 048-2
"Giant Steps" John Coltrane Atlantic 781337-2 Rhino R2 71984
"Blue Train" John Coltrane Blue Note B2-46095
"Sketches of Spain" Miles Davis Columbia VCK40578
"Bill Evans Trio Sunday at the Village Vanguard" Bill Evans Riverside RCD-018-2
Re:My Top Ten album (Score:3, Interesting)
Rahsaan Roland Kirk needs to be added here. Wow, where do you start with this guy? Maybe Domino, with Herbie Hancock as a sideman, too.
On another track: Brother Jack McDuff. Really, almost the most laid-back of the Hammond B3 players. Once you listen close, and see where he's going with the band...
It's hard to go wrong with The New Boss Guitar of George Benson, with the Brother Jack McDuff Quartet . Benson's debut at about 21. McDuff has him lead the group, and y
Re:My Top Ten album (Score:2)
I couldn't agree more about Herbie. He really progressed the genre of jazz the way few others did. In my mind, perhaps only Miles can surpass him in terms of his influence on the genre. His stuff rocks. His 70s funk/fusion stuff is great. The older stuff is fantastic, too. Hell, I even like hsi foray into pop music. Great stuff.
And Oscar Pete
Re:My Top Ten album (Score:2)
This is pretty cool for an ask /. !!
If you did the weird pop/jazz crossover stuff, there's also Dobie Gray. Into him bigtime, but not everybody's taste. Me, I can get behind a Jazz pianist who digs Archie Bell and the Drells!
Jazz on Slashdot? (Score:2, Informative)
regardless of the collapse, I'd recommend most anything from John Coltrane, and seriously recommend anothing by Liquid Soul. Its that kinda jazzy grooby jazz that make syou wanna get naked and find pictures of famous movie starts to Photoshop yourself into.
Its serioulsy *that* good.
They have a cover called "salt Peanuts" that may sound familiar to some of you old skool jazz ppls, but their take on it might open up a new avenus of swet sounds to all you "youngsters"
I hav
Re:Jazz on Slashdot? (Score:2)
I like this type of Ask Slashdot (Score:4, Insightful)
If the music labels would only wake up and realize that people that engage in P2P filesharing actually buy *more* music, they might realize that this is the perfect application for (illegal) downloading of copyrighted material. Want to expose yourself to some of this music? Download a bunch of mp3s. Buy what you like (some of the liner notes on these jazz albums are fantastic), and delete the rest. After all, you don't want the RIAA on your butt when they come to arrest 1/6 of the population!
Don't ask me, find out for yourself (Score:4, Informative)
To go beyond that, read & listen. When Christopher Lydon used to do the public radio show The Connection [theconnection.org] from WBUR [wbur.org] in Boston, he used to do lots of great jazz shows. The ones on Kind of Blue [theconnection.org] & A Love Supreme [theconnection.org] greatly deepend my appreciation of what was already two of my favorite albums, and Lydon's enthusiasm for the music also got me interested in hearing more from people like Count Basie and others. Thanks to the magic of RealAudio and the generosity of Boston University, you can still listen to these great radio shows today. On a similar note, NPR's Curious Listeners Guide to Jazz [amazon.com] looks like a pretty good overview of the genre but deeper conniseurs than me might disagree about that one.
Really though, the library is the best thing. Check out everything you can, make a note of what you like & what doesn't do anything for you, and focus on the artists & time periods that you like the best. For me, the stuff from the late 40s (Davis' "Rebirth of the Cool", 1948 [?]) through the late 50s (1959 gave us Davis' "Kind of Blue", Mingus' "Mingus Ah Um" & "Blues & Roots", and Coltrane's "Giant Steps" -- four of my favorites) and into the early 60s (Contrane's "Blue Train", 1961) seems to have been the golden age of jazz. Before that was a lot of big band & swing (fun, but not as personally satisfying to me) and after that came a lot of avant garde & psychedelic stuff that I only care for in small doses.
As for whether you'll like modern stuff, I dunno. The 60s & 70s seemed to bring a lot of psychedelic free jazz & funk, but personally I haven't yet found anything from that era or since that has won me over. The closest thing I can find to modern jazz that I like is Martin Medesky & Wood, who in some ways do an interesting blend of that older cool jazz mixed well with modern hip hop -- making me wonder just what John Coltrane would have done if anyone thought to have a DJ in a band back in the 60s. My problem with MMW though is the whole hippie jam band thing, which I find great for naptime. Oh well. The other modern jazz person I've found to be consistently interesting is John Zorn; if you've ever heard Mr Bungle's albums and tried to puzzle out how they got to be so different from what Faith No More did, blame/thank John Zorn. To the extent that the first Bungle album didn't sound like "The Real Thing", to my ear it's almost all Zorn's influence (he produced the album). This stuff is fascinating to listen to, but it can barely be described as music in any conventional sense: his Cobra album seems to go out of its way to discard rhythm, melody, harmony & tempo -- it's just vaguely organized bursts of sound on disc. Very very weird.
Bonus points: compare & contrast the album cover for "Blue Train [bluenote.com]" with that of one of the Cowboy Bebop [amazon.com] DVDs -- the cover art & logo are similar, and the back cover tiny font text are like mirrors of each other. First time I ever got a chance to see Cowboy Bebop (again, at the library -- I don't have cable tv :), I could tell just from the cover that the people that did this had excellent taste :) :) :)
Anyway, this is al
Re:Don't ask me, find out for yourself (Score:2)
The Lincoln Center Jazz Orchestra (with Wynton Marsalis). These guys are some of the finest jazz musicians playing today. Their "Live from Swing City" album is all Duke, and it's superb. Even if you have the Duke himself (which you should)
Jean Luc Ponty (Score:2)
One word.. Squarepusher. (Score:2, Interesting)
What's so interesting about it is you can clearly tell that there's a big modern influence, even a drum'n'bass influence if you will. Where the influence really occured the other way around, his jazz
Stan Kenton, and The Crusaders (Score:2)
Unfortunately, most of the Jazz I hear on the radio that I like has been out of print for decades... Temple's radio station [wrti.org] used to be all Jazz but when they acquired a classical library from a failed classical station they became a mediocre classical
New to Slashdot? (Score:2)
Django (Score:3, Insightful)
Herbie Hancock (Score:2)
Have fun exploring!
Being someone who studied jazz for four years... (Score:2)
...I happen to be a pretentious snob who thinks he knows what he's talking about when it comes to jazz specifically and music in general.
Well, let's get started.
I basically think of five musicians as being the major movers and shakers of 'jazz' (or African-American classical music, or the only truly American classical music, or whatever you want to call it that will piss somebody somewhere off...):
First of all, that's leav
WTF?! (Score:2)
-psy
Re:WTF?! (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:WTF?! (Score:2)
Just thought it was kinda lame to be asking for Jazz record advice on
-psy
MMW, Monk, and JMP (Score:2, Informative)
Thelonious Monk - Specifically Solo Monk and Traditionals
Medeski Martin & Wood - The Dropper and Uninvisible
Jazz Mandolin Project is also good.
If you can't afford it, you could always look for live recordings of them (not sure about Monk though) online, legal and free. www.furthurnet.com , www.etree.org
my picks (Score:2)
Re Miles Davis, you already have Kind of Blue, which is an all-time great. Some people like his fusion stuff, but I can't stand it myself.
For Dizzy Gillespie and Charlie Parker, look in one of those books that rates jazz records and see what's good. They churn out lots of compilations every year, and some are much better than others.
Chick Corea (Score:2)
Maybe not quite what you're looking for, but I like Chick Corea a lot. Return to Forever.
'What Game Shall We Play' today is one of my favorites. Nice vocals.
John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman (Score:2)
Also get Bird and Diz for the Be-bop classics. The Bridge by Sonny Rollins.
As much as I hate to say it, The overrated Ken Burns 4 CD Jazz collection is a pretty good sampling. I mean he overrates himself. The music didn't need his endorsement, but at least he got the word out.
I was d
Jazz for beginners (Score:2, Informative)
Famous Jazz records (Score:2)
* Time Out, Dave Brubeck, 1959
Although it seemed far out at the time, with all these songs in weird meters (5/4, 7/4) - when the jazz scene was all playing standard 4/4 bars - this album ironically became a best-seller.
* Giant Steps, John Coltrane, 1959
This guy expanded what we knew then about harmony. This album (especially the title track) will show the way to all structured atonal jazz.
* Bitches Brew, Miles Davis, 1969
The first fusion record, with some of the grea
Play Loud (Score:2)
Django Reinhardt (Score:2)
I'd like recommend the recordings from the 1930's by Django Reinhardt and Stephane Grappelli (Quintette of the Hot Club de France). Groundbreaking and virtuoso (acoustic)guitar and violin playing in a unique 'European' swing idiom (double bass, 2 rhythm guitars, lead guitar, violin).
Some ideas:
The Classic Early Recordings in Chronological Order [amazon.com]
Quintette du Hot Club de France: 25 Classics 1934-1940 [amazon.com]
Also, EMusic [emusic.com] has a lot of this stuff available for download.
JP
Kurt Elling! Plus Oscar, Keith, Chick.... (Score:2, Interesting)
Ken Burns Jazz: The Story Of American Music (Score:2)
AAAGH!!! No one mentioned Charlie Parker yet?! (Score:2)
Charlie Parker!
+ The Cole Porter Songbook
+ Jazz at the Philharmonic, 1949 [LIVE]
And, with Dizzy Gillespie
+ Bird and Diz
With the added benefit of getting to know the Cole Porter songs. Ok, it's not that experimental stuff from the 60s and 70s, but man is it sweet. I credit The Bird with helping me land my wife of 11 years!
eMusic (Score:2)
Red Holloway, Weather Report, Stanley Clark (Score:2)
And, of course, Weather Report 8:30, one of the greatest albums ever made.
Stanley Clark, School Days
Here are some guitarists (Score:2)
Kenny Burrell [vervemusicgroup.com] - one of the best, plays with B.B. King now, straight ahead bob
Wes Montgomery [google.com] - one the first, one of the most influential
Charlie Christian [google.com] - the first, groundbreaker
Ed Bickert [tripod.com] - i think I've seen him play live about 50 times, just incredible, and he uses a Telecaster
John Pizzarelli [johnpizzarelli.com] - wonderful tone, fantastic voice, good trio, and his dad Bucky is quite good as well.
There are a
From the birthplace of Jazz... (Score:2)
If you're interested in some of the modern Brass Band Jazz that New Orleans produces copious amounts of, check out Rebirth Brass Band [rebirthbrassband.com] (you can listen to some of their songs there). They are one of the best known of the Brass Jazz bands, but there are many others. Kermit Ruffins and the Barbeque Swingers, Los Hombres Calientes (heavy latin flavor), Irvin Mayfield,
Not mentioned yet: Dolphy, Byrd (Score:2)
I think that whether they're "essential" depends a lot on who you're talking to, but three of my favorite albums don't yet appear to have been mentioned:
A New Perspective, Donald Byrd Band and Voices
Rather different from much of what Byrd recorded, the vocal work can sound a little...well, cheesy, to some people, but it's fascinating to me.
Add to that Last Date and Out to Lunch by Eric Dolphy. Jazz flute doesn't grab everybody, but the man was an extraordinary musician and performer.
Otherwise, it s
Why, Art Tatum, of course! (Score:2)
Also, pick up some stuff by Marcus Roberts. His reinterpretation of Rhapsody in Blue blows me away every time I hear it. His use of the piano to its full potential is Liszt-like.
Dexter Gordon (Score:2)
Check this out. (Score:2)
Must have jazz... (Score:2, Informative)
Cannonball Adderly: Somethin' Else
Art Blakey: Moanin'
Dave Brubeck: Time Out
Benny Carter: Further Definitions
Ornete Coleman: The Shape of Jazz to Come
John Coltrane: Giant Steps
A Love Supreme
Miles Davis: Birth of the Cool
Branch Out a Little (Score:2)
The Skatalites - Hi-Bop Ska
The Skatalites - Ball of Fire
The Skatalites - From Paris With Love
On the newer edge... (Score:2)
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Chick Corea (Score:2)
You may also enjoy Chick Corea, who plays piano with a small group. Very mellow. I recommend "Eye of the Beholder". Somebody stole my copy
If you like very hard Jazz fusion (eg Miles Davis' weirder stuff) then try Weather Report, especially from when Jaco Pasterius was still with them. Virtuoso performances guaranteed.
Kind of Blue (Score:2)
Recco (Score:2)
I think I would reccccccommend several. I don't feel like listing them all. You wouldn't want to hear all my recccccommendations, I 'm pretty sure.
Two recommendations on the modern side of things.. (Score:2)
Feed Me Weird Things by Squarepusher
My recommendations are... (Score:2)
Try some Bossa Nova, perhaps Antonio Carlos Jobim.
Steve Cole is pretty good too.
If you're into vocals, check out Al Jarreau.
Marc Antoine is also a favorite as is Peter White.
All these artists with the exception of Jobim can be heard on most smooth jazz radio stations (WNWV FM 107.3 in Cleveland "The Wave"). If you have a Macintosh with iTunes, check out the internet radio stations listed under Jazz.
Scott Joplin (Score:2)
Re:What kind of Jazz? (Score:2)
Why suggest Kenny G because it's the "Future" of Jazz (which I don't buy at all)? There are thousands of records from the last, what 75 years (?), that are worth buying. After you've run through all of those and are sick of them (the work of a lifetime, really) then, sure, devolve to Kenny G...
Re:What kind of Jazz? (Score:3, Informative)
The problem with American jazz is that in America, jazz has lost its commercial appeal. Some of the best attended jazz performances these days are in France. The French jazz scene is far better than that in the US. Even if you are interested in American performers, they tend to spend a great deal of time in France.
If you want fluff, go ahead and listen to Kenny G and Yanni. They may be the future of jazz, but that doesn't make them good. Let me give
Re:What kind of Jazz? (Score:2)
Honestly, for inte
Re:What kind of Jazz? (Score:2)
Trip Hop or Jazz? (Score:2)
Can you please explain the differnace between trip hop [triphop-music.com] and Jazz?
this may help [amazon.com]
Re:What kind of Jazz? (Score:5, Interesting)
Pat Metheny's Answer: Kenny G is not a musician I really had much of an opinion about at all until recently. There was not much about the way he played that interested me one way or the other either live or on records. I first heard him a number of years ago playing as a sideman with Jeff Lorber when they opened a concert for my band. My impression was that he was someone who had spent a fair amount of time listening to the more pop oriented sax players of that time, like Grover Washington or David Sanborn, but was not really an advanced player, even in that style. He had major rhythmic problems and his harmonic and melodic vocabulary was extremely limited, mostly to pentatonic based and blues-lick derived patterns, and he basically exhibited only a rudimentary understanding of how to function as a professional soloist in an ensemble - Lorber was basically playing him off the bandstand in terms of actual music. But he did show a knack for connecting to the basest impulses of the large crowd by deploying his two or three most effective licks (holding long notes and playing fast runs - never mind that there were lots of harmonic clams in them) at the key moments to elicit a powerful crowd reaction (over and over again). The other main thing I noticed was that he also, as he does to this day, play horribly out of tune - consistently sharp.
Of course, I am aware of what he has played since, the success it has had, and the controversy that has surrounded him among musicians and serious listeners. This controversy seems to be largely fueled by the fact that he sells an enormous amount of records while not being anywhere near a really great player in relation to the standards that have been set on his instrument over the past sixty or seventy years.
And honestly, there is no small amount of envy involved from musicians who see one of their fellow players doing so well financially, especially when so many of them who are far superior as improvisers and musicians in general have trouble just making a living. there must be hundreds, if not thousands of sax players around the world who are simply better improvising musicians than Kenny G on his chosen instruments. It would really surprise me if even he disagreed with that statement.
Having said that, it has gotten me to thinking lately why so many jazz musicians (myself included, given the right "bait" of a question, as I will explain later) and audiences have gone so far as to say that what he is playing is not even jazz at all.
More right here... [everything2.org]
Re:What kind of Jazz? (Score:2)
Short-sighted (Score:3, Insightful)
Even if you were right, there are millions of us youngsters born in the 70s and 80s who don't know a lot of these names, much less ever heard the music. It's new music to our ears.
There would be lots of life left in jazz if the music got more exposure and promotion.
Re:What sort of nonsense is this? (Score:2)
Re:What sort of nonsense is this? (Score:2)
Re:Pat Metheny (Score:2)
John McLaughlin "My Goal's Beyond".
Re:Jazz essentials (Score:2)
Re:Diana Krall (Score:2)
I'd also add Harry Connick Jr. [hconnickjr.com] to the list of good contemporary jazz. His album "20" is an instrumental jazz masterpiece.
Re:Why is this on Ask Slashdot? (Score:2, Funny)