First 802.11 Wireless Movie Theater? 301
vern@austin802.11.com writes: "Imagine being able to IRC someone to pass the popcorn! The Austin Wireless Group has helped establish what may well be the country's first Wireless Enabled Theatre. The Alamo Draft House movie theater in Austin, Texas now has 802.11b wireless broadband Internet access that covers all screens in their complex. This "retrofit" theater had every other row replaced with tables and offers dinner and drinks with the show. So, you can park your laptop, order a burger/beer, then email in a movie review all w/o disturbing your fellow patrons. Cool! :)"
no internet spies allowed (Score:1)
what is the point? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:what is the point? (Score:3, Funny)
Maybe it's a dull flick. You'll know for sure if you hear someone in the audience say, 'First post! wh00t!'
Re:what is the point? (Score:2)
Movies are for being engrossed in a different world.
You've obviously never been to Rocky Horror Picture Show
Re:what is the point? (Score:2)
Re:what is the point? (Score:3, Funny)
Then there are the deep geek lines that I yell every so often:
"How do you test if an IP address is reachable?"
"...and your mind goes Ping!"
Or, when Riff is turning around with the trident laser:
"Slowly I turned, step by step, inch by inch, centimeter by centimeter, millimeter by millimeter, picometer by picometer, angstrom by angstrom... what the fuck is an angstrom? (point at an audiance member) It's a unit of measurement so small that this man measures his penis with it! Single digit, baby!"
And then there was the one night that I did that when some association of planetarium directors was in town... I got a unison chorus of "one hundred-millionth of a centimeter!" right after "What the fuck is an angstrom?" Good Times.
BTW - for Rocky geeks out there, Timewarp.org will be getting a massive update in about a month, at which point there will be a /. like Rocky site.
--
Evan
Re:what is the point? (Score:2)
So by that logic . . . (Score:5, Funny)
Neat!
Re:What logic? (Score:2)
um... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:um... (Score:5, Funny)
They're usually pretty cooperative when they find out that Mr. "Gonna Break Your Laptop" is sitting next to them.
Re:um... (Score:2)
What needs to happen now is that they should set up an intranet with direct links into IMDB.com for the movies playing, IRC within each theater and a general IRC, and a message system to order food. (without waiting for someone to come by and grab your card)
from the site... (Score:2, Informative)
Some may ask, why would I want internet access while in a movie theater?
Well you could:
-See Theater Schedules & Order Movie Tickets to coming shows.
-Messaging to Fellow Movie goers adjacent in the crowd without talking.
-Messaging to Fellow Movie goers in adjacent screens in multi-screen venues without talking.
-Surfing to related or official websites for the current movie showing.
-Surfing to the InternetMovieDataBase for related data to movie, actors and screen writers.
-Connecting to promotions related to movie sponsor.
-Driving the movie content in real-time via audience response in Digital Theaters.
-Ordering Food and drinks from the kitchen and bar without talking.
-Ordering the movie soundtrack online or video releases in advance.
-Watching an alternate streaming movie if the one on the big screen doesn't make it for you.
Re:from the site... (Score:2, Interesting)
Ok, just remember to pour melted candlewax around your headphones to block out the sound of the film you are watching...
Might as well just leave.
Exercising a lot of those other ideas, unless you're addressing them before the movie starts, would indicate you really wasted your money, because the movie you're 'watching' isn't more engrossing than just puttering around on the web. Why not just park behind the theater and listen in?
encourage spur-of-the-moment spending.. (Score:2)
-See Theater Schedules & Order Movie Tickets to coming shows.
-Ordering Food and drinks from the kitchen and bar without talking.
-Ordering the movie soundtrack online or video releases in advance.
Quite often in movies, I'll think 'Wow, the soundtrack sounds cool. I'll have to remember to buy it', but of course I never (or very rarely) do with special exceptions for Lord of the Rings and Star Wars. But if I could order it online right when I'm thinking about it thus causing me to spend money on the spot, it would make more money for the RIAA. Likewise with popcorn, drinks etc at the theater, I don't often want to get out of my chair and miss part of the movie so if I could order it right there and have it delivered, I'd probably be more inclined to buy those things.
In all I think it's a good idea and a smart move for them, as long as they force people to mute their laptops.
Re:from the site... (Score:2, Funny)
-Messaging to Fellow Movie goers adjacent in the crowd without talking. be a loser
-Messaging to Fellow Movie goers in adjacent screens in multi-screen venues without talking. be a loser
-Surfing to related or official websites for the current movie showing. be impatient
-Surfing to the InternetMovieDataBase for related data to movie, actors and screen writers. be a loser
-Connecting to promotions related to movie sponsor. be a sponsor's wet dream
-Driving the movie content in real-time via audience response in Digital Theaters. be a loser
-Ordering Food and drinks from the kitchen and bar without talking. be a lazy slob
-Ordering the movie soundtrack online or video releases in advance. be impatient
-Watching an alternate streaming movie if the one on the big screen doesn't make it for you. leave, you dumbass
You can't always just leave.... (Score:2)
If you have no idea why you'd go see something that makes you yawn, visit dictionary.com and check our the word "relationship"....
Yeah, not a disturbance at all... (Score:1)
No, I wouldn't find the clicking of the keys or the backlight of the LCD from the guy sitting next to me annoying at all.
Re:Yeah, not a disturbance at all... (Score:2)
Re:Yeah, not a disturbance at all... (Score:2)
I would imagine the wireless internet is for other events, not for blockbuster weekends.
click click munch munch slurrrp (Score:1)
Lets hope they don't have XP's voice recognition turned on
Yeah! (Score:2, Funny)
Now if only that guy and two robots who always sit infront of me, yakking through the movie, would just find another theater...
No distractions (Score:5, Funny)
Re:No distractions (Score:1)
Re:No distractions (Score:2)
Re:No distractions (Score:2, Funny)
I'm bringing my old DecWriter printer console.
THUMP-A-THUMP-THUMP.
THUMP-A-THUMP-THU
CHING...ZIIIIIIP. (carriage return)
Re:No distractions (Score:2, Funny)
Indeed. Ever been to a Star Trek movie premiere? When I saw Generations on opening night, the front row looked like an Olympic judging panel. Which, in many ways, it probably was.
Re:No distractions (Score:2)
$200 so you can take a date to a movie and feel like you are in your living room. retarded.
Re:No distractions (Score:2)
Why? (Score:1)
Aint it cool news (Score:1)
bad idea (Score:1)
They should make things that BLOCK wireless.. (Score:4, Insightful)
i don't want anyone using gsm while watching a movie, and certainly don't want anyone to chat with their friends on bigger screens than that. do people in usa really want this kinda sh*t in theaters? like, don't you go to movie theaters to see the _movie_??
Re:They should make things that BLOCK wireless.. (Score:2)
According to him, the higher-ups have qualms about doing this because of legal issues e.g. what happens if someoone needs to get in touch with someone else who happens to be in a movie theatre, but the movie theatre has disabled wireless devices?
Sheesh, people are such weenies. Just put up a big ass sign up that says, "Wireless signals will be blocked while on the premises." Problem solved.
Re:They should make things that BLOCK wireless.. (Score:2)
Re:They should make things that BLOCK wireless.. (Score:2)
Re:They should make things that BLOCK wireless.. (Score:2)
Of course, there's always that blind person who has a cell phone...
I don't know what the law is with regards to blind people and signs, but that's a problem everywhere. What about a blind person with a pacemaker in a quick-e-mart (big warning sign about microwaves). What about signs that say, "floor is wet -- watch your step"?
Uhm.. (Score:2, Insightful)
Distraction (Score:1)
And you wouldn't you be too busy, you know, watching the movie to use an 802.11b device in the theatre?
Very NOT Cool (Score:1)
Re:Very NOT Cool (Score:2, Informative)
Adding a couple laptops to the environment wouldn't really change it significantly. There isn't that much difference between typical keyboard noise and crunching chips or popcorn if you ask me. As long as the movie volume is at a sufficient level it shouldn't matter. Of course those who are easily distracted wouldn't like it, but that's why there are a variety of theaters to choose from. I agree that cell phones should be blocked in movies though.
Re:Very NOT Cool (Score:2)
No, it's the guy yelling into his throatmike to his teammates or who screams and curses when he gets railgunned in the middle of a soft sentimental moment in the movie that might be disturbing.
Mostly it would bug me cause I wouldn't have been the one having the joy of fragging him.....
Wonder if they would keep track (Score:1)
Home Theater (Score:2)
Great, they turned the movie theater into the equivelant of my home theater set up, only instead of waiting for rentals, I can see first run movies. Will I be able to pause the picture when I get a phone call or have to go to the restroom?
DVD time ... (Score:1)
We had one. (Score:2, Informative)
Places like this only show old movies. It's not a place you go to be seriously entertained or engrossed in the film (heck, even vhs at home would probably be better quality), it's a place you go with friends who are too poor to afford good beer and current movies
Re:We had one. (Score:1)
Re:We had one. (Score:2)
Re:We had one. (Score:2)
There are actually two drafthouses. The one in northwest Austin is pretty much exclusively first-runs.
I think _I_ would be disturbed. (Score:5, Insightful)
I hate to burst this capitalistic bubble, but I'm pretty sure I would be disturbed by my fellow patrons typing and ordering.
We've all sat in computer labs before, and I bet we go somewhere else to watch movies. Now, if they used this networking to offer HEADPHONES for the movie, I'd be psyched. Not only would it block the munching and tapping, but it would allow much stronger stereo and volume.
Re:I think _I_ would be disturbed. (Score:3, Informative)
>fellow patrons typing and ordering.
I can't argue with typing, but the ordering thing they've got pretty well handled.
Ordering is handled by writing your order on a sheet of paper, then putting it in a memo-holder kinda thing on the narrow table in front of each row of seats. Each seat has a number associated with it, so the wait staff picks up the order, verifies they can read it, and scribbles the seat number on the piece of paper. Very simple, and 80% of the time no conversation necessary.
There's enough elevation difference between the rows of seats that the wait staff can take orders without interfering with the other patrons. You can also put a full pitcher of beer on the tables without blocking the view of those behind you.
It's a cool system. I like the new theater on the north side of Austin they opened up just fine, but something about the downtown location will always be near and dear.
So far my favorite Alamo experiences have been the Bruce Campbell Marathon (Evil Dead, Evil Dead 2, Army of Darkness, with Bruce in attendance), The Big Lebowski (free white russian with admission!), and any Spaghetti Western night (all you can eat spaghetti with a great Sergio Leone-era western).
I agree that it'd be cool to offer headphones, but it's hard to do surround with headphones.
-l
Re:I think _I_ would be disturbed. (Score:2)
-l
(the other one)
Re:I think _I_ would be disturbed. (Score:3, Interesting)
It's pretty clear this outfit is trying to merge two different kinds of institutions: the cafe/cinema and the Internet cafe. Frankly, I don't think this is a winner because you go to one to take part in a communal experience and the other to swill coffee with your nose in a your laptop.
Re:I think _I_ would be disturbed. (Score:2)
Sure it might be nice to be able to tinker on a laptop while watching a movie, order drinks, dinner, and whatnot.
But what about the problems? People have mentioned the key chattering. I think this would be a killer itself. But what about "bright" monitors, and all those people who can't figure out how to turn off the sound on their laptops. People are up in arms over cell phones in movie theaters. I have no doubt that people would have issues with constant: eep, ding, you've got mail, the Windows startup/shutdown jingle, and many, many others.
So that's my take. I'm for it, if it can be used correctly. If someone is able to figure out a way not to ruin the movie via unwanted typing, light or noise. Make sure that copyrights aren't violated via video or audio capture devices (commonly found on many laptops these days). And can in general provide me with a more enjoyable experience, then I'd be for such a system. Maybe the theaters can take advantage of such a network so that they can offer better services. I think these services should probably be offered via theater controlled devices and not given to the theater public at large though.
Re:I think _I_ would be disturbed. (Score:2)
That said, the Drafthouse also rents out to corporations for board meetings, etc, anything someone would need a medium-sized place to go during the day. I suspect that's the main reason for the 802.11. It wouldn't surprise me if they turn off the 802.11 at night, when they do public movie showings. There are a lot of places in Austin with 802.11 (coffee houses, the entire University of Texas, etc) so this isn't that revolutionary.
Anyway, just my $0.02.
uhh (Score:1)
Alamo Drafthouse Is Supreme (Score:1)
Alamo Drafthouse rules supreme. All bow before their infinite coolness of utility.
http://www.drafthouse.com
I would argue... (Score:3, Funny)
Concerns... (Score:1)
Instead, suppress communications (Score:1)
802.11 there is OK, but it's hardly as useful as in a cafe or library.
I would greatly prefer that they install the cell-phone blockers to prevent the now nearly reliable mid-screening rings. Three different cellphones went off during one sparsely-attended movie I watched this weekend.
I also wouldn't appreciate the rest of the theater turning on backlit LCD displays, tapping away at interfaces, etc. during a movie.
TOTALLY LAME (Score:2)
-pmb
Anything like this in the bay area? (Score:1)
i think it sound really cool
Olden days... (Score:1)
I see... (Score:1)
"Free"? Not at these prices.... (Score:2)
Huh. (Score:5, Informative)
Typically one orders a large beer, a hamberger and maybe some nachos. Beer, grease and cheese isn't the kind of thing i want next to my $1,000 laptop, besides it would be rude to the people behind me to have that bright LCD screen glaring, not to mention the sound of the keyboard.
-Jon
I wonder if they'll ban Sony Picturebooks (Score:1)
Sure would be less conspicuous for someone to have a picturebook there than a conventional videocamera
Having eaten / watched one movie like this (at a theatre in Salt Lake City
timothy
More annoying than anything? (Score:1)
It's annoying enough now sitting near dozens of fat slobs who make noise chewing popcorn and other snacks with their mouths open. I think it would be unbearable dealing with the foot-traffic of waiters and the commotion brought on by entire meals being served.
Why does everything have to be "plugged in" now? Can't people just go to a movie and watch it in silence without needing to be "connected"? I love technology, but sometimes you just need to ask "what's the point"?
Can someone please explain (Score:1)
I guess I just don't get the point of going to watch a movie and then not even paying attention to it.
What if... (Score:1)
It will only add to the experience (Score:5, Informative)
This is a great idea and I really don't think it will take away from the experience that I've enjoyed for years. The atmosphere at the Alamo Drafthouse is different from any other theater because it is expected that there will be some disturbance during the show. This isn't to say that it's a roudy place where you can't enjoy your movie (except maybe during Rocky Horror Picture Show screenings), but the experience is much more like watching a movie with a bunch of friends at home.
Given the shear volume of wireless-enabled individuals in Austin, this can only enhance the experience.
Next time I go I'll take my laptop and hack other patrons if they're noisy
Miked
I wonder... (Score:1)
Re:I wonder... (Score:2)
HAHAHAHAH (Score:2)
There are many of these? (Score:3, Informative)
Perhaps the best thing is the ~ monthly all ages showings of RHPS, complete with props =]
Stupid idea... (Score:2)
What about light pollution too? I have a Dell Inspiron 8000 with the UXGA screen and it throws off enough light to light a room by itself.
No thanks...
--Jon
Simply amazing (Score:3, Funny)
Imagine a company with no market about to fail!
Ever notice... (Score:2)
If so, I'm not 100% sure it'd work. I wouldn't bring my laptop to a theater. I'm just not used to carrying anything into a theater. Still, being able to post my gripes about Rollerball on Slashot would have been worth bringing my laptop...
Still waiting... (Score:2)
Adult Theaters (Score:3, Informative)
Wireless 'net access though, sounds counter-intuitive to the real draw I found (the aforementioned quiet). We'll never see anything like this around Phoenix until someone razes Awahtukee and Anthem. Or at least until movie tickets are more expensive than babysitters.
I really like the Alamo... (Score:2, Informative)
I went to see FOTR there, and by the end of the movie, I was plain irritated with the waiters when they were bringing those tasty burgers and beer.
It is a great place to go when the movie's sorta the secondary thing.
Hello? Blue Glow anyone? (Score:3, Insightful)
I don't know about you'all, but I get livid when they don't turn the house lights down all the way. Now I'm going to have to have the bottom half of my night vision ruined by idiots with glowing laptops?
No thanks!
Sweet timing (Score:2)
Movie about Open Source, same theater (Score:5, Informative)
sigh.
On March 22, "Revolution OS" will be shown at the north location of Alamo Draft House, in Austin, TX. Not only that, but the owner will be burning Linux cds (dunno what distro) for people in the lobby.
Tell me that isn't a serious geek cool thing to do.
Laptops at the Alamo (Score:2, Informative)
"IRCing someone" to pass the popcorn... (Score:5, Funny)
*** You have joined #MovieTheater
*** Topic for #MovieTheater: The Animaniacs Movie: The Best Thing Ever Ever Ever, Or Just the Best Thing Ever Ever?
*** GreasyGuy has joined #MovieTheater
*** Chanserv sets mode: +o GreasyGuy
<Me> Hey, um, mister Greasy, could you pass the popcorn?
<GreasyGuy> No! Fuck you! What the hell is wrong with you? Get it yourself! Stop making me feel insecure!
*** You have been kicked off #MovieTheater by GreasyGuyMinion_1 (No popcorn-begging)
*** Attempting to rejoin #MovieTheater
*** GreasyGuy sets mode: +b *!*you@seat_37
*** You have been kicked off #MovieTheater by GreasyGuy (Because I'm too afraid to get up to kick your ass in person!)
/quit
bash-2.1# ping -f -s 65535 greasy_guy_seat
.......
--- greasy_guy_seat ping statistics ---
239123 packets transmitted, 103 packets received, 99% packet loss
w00t!
Interesting concept, bet it won't last (Score:2)
To me, it's an intersting idea. You almost get to recreate the home theater expereince, only with new movies. IMO, even if it's pulled off well, it'll still fail, there's no pause button :)
Thief's wet dream! (Score:2)
Mark
From the tunguska blast article (Score:2)
The heat incinerated herds of reindeer and charred tens of thousands of evergreens across hundreds of square moles.
How do we know they were square? They could have been very hip. Just because a mole is russian, doesn't mean he's uncool.
I wish people would learn.
Blogger + Movie Theater + Internet = (Score:2)
Nathan
manners (Score:2)
wireless access has its benefits...movie theaters are not the time and place for it.
Writing a review... fucking hell.
The reverse (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm dead serious. I, and most people I know, would choose a wireless disabled theater every time. I would spend extra money. I would drive further across town to get there.
Someday, someone is going to realize that there is a market for such a theater. If it doesn't happen, I predict that we will start to see "theater rage", and I'm not joking. I don't consider myself a violent person, but I've been on the verge of punching another patron on several occassions, and I don't think I'm alone.
Re:The reverse (Score:2)
I suppose the only way to legally do it would be to build a faraday cage around the entire theater.
Great (Score:2, Funny)
PEOPLE: ALAMO IS NOT A STANDARD THEATRE (Score:2)
Personally I usually go for their MST3000, but I can't say I'd want my laptop there with me.
Typing 'Fire' in a Crowded Theater (Score:2)
But Live Concerts are a different application - I have used various typing devices to record setlists and do near-realtime concert reviews, and wireless access could have let me do them realtime. That kind of thing is more common for things like Deadhead jam bands than for some other genres, but it's nice to be able to do a stream-of-consciousness review about how Dave's doing a really hot Cajun interpretation of this piece or the guy playing the pedal steel is doing something really twisted to the melody, which lets you edit it down later and email it. It's also sometimes convenient to be able to pull down the lyrics for a song to see what's going on during this rendition of it.
Frightening Thought... (Score:2)
PLEASE tell me that that they're NOT opening a theatre like this where Jon Katz lives. His reviews are bad enough already!
All for Harry Knowles (Score:2)
Though you must commend him for the charity work at the Drafthouse with the butt-numb-a-thon.
I can hear it now (Score:2)
Re:2nd Purpose Venue (Score:2)