What happens When You Cook Your Palm Pilot 251
Hal-kun writes "What happens when you put a Palm Pilot in the oven to dry with the warmth of the pilot light, only to have someone cook a Pizza while you were out? Take a look. Stick a fork in it, I think it's done."
Hahaha... (Score:2)
Tastes like... (Score:4, Funny)
Cooked Palm Taste? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Cooked Palm Taste? (Score:3, Funny)
Cooked Palm (Score:1)
Re: Strange things have happened before... (Score:2)
One of the soldiers took his gameboy with him to Desert Storm, and it got toasted by a grenade, according to one issue.
They showed a picture that looked about like that Palm Pilot did - but Tetris was running on it. It still worked! Of course, the screen was really difficult to see, since half of it was burnt off, but at least it did *something*.
There used to be a gameboy "game" called a workboy, which was basically a PDA. Maybe I should get one of those instead of a Palm. Then I won't have to worry about it breaking.
LOL (Score:1)
Hairdryer (Score:2)
If you like this stuff... (Score:5, Interesting)
The Palm Graveyard [palminfocenter.com] is dedicated to tales and pictures of Palms that have piloted their way to the choir invisible.
Re:If you like this stuff... (Score:2, Interesting)
Over clocking (Score:5, Funny)
Oh, he over cooked it...
Re:Over clocking (Score:2)
Bam! (Score:1)
-Cyc
Gah... (Score:2, Funny)
Everyone knows you're supposed to barbecue them!
Re:Gah... (Score:2)
Eeek! (Score:1)
Fully intact? (Score:4, Interesting)
This brings up another interesting question, however. Are there "rugged" PDAs that are able to take a beating? I know that Fellowes [fellowes.com] sells a bumper case that's supposed to protect Palms, but how durable are they? Does somebody make a "rugged" PDA?
Re:Fully intact? (Score:4, Insightful)
Some shops have so much oil in the air, any paper left in the open becomes soaked completely in 12 hours. Not to mention open air warehouses that can get extremely hot or cold.
However, nothing is going to protect against extreme heat. You can't keep a closed system cool, and thats what you have in an oven. At least, nothing that will last very long and can fit in your pocket.
Re:Fully intact? (Score:2, Informative)
Re: (Score:1)
Re:Fully intact? (Score:2)
Trust me, it doesn't take much exposure to fry that lcd screen. Granted, I didn't waste my palm but rather an ancient 5$ digital watch.. And this was way back when I was 8 back in the 80s, but still..
Re:Fully intact? (Score:1)
So far it's had the connection to the screen replaced, then had the right side of the hinge replaced (both under warranty), and now the warranty's run out and the left hinge is starting to go. Those complicated 3-way Psion hinges (the screen, keyboard/base and battery compartment are all separate and hinged together) are wonderfully clever, but rather too flimsy for my liking... anyone know if the Revo's any better? Or if there's a similarly small palmtop that's actually designed to take a few impacts?
Re:Fully intact? (Score:1)
Re:Fully intact? (Score:2)
It's not too surprising; surface-mount components are attached to circuit boards by applying solder paste, then passing the whole board through a reflow oven [tmworld.com] to melt the solder.
Re:Fully intact? (Score:2)
Funny (Score:2, Redundant)
Re:Funny (Score:1)
After about three hours of setting up my servers in a walk in closet and using my laptop to send my x a final fuck you letter I went out and bought some cheap mexican beer and quickly became inebriated and fell asleep on the floor with my backpack as a pillow.
As nightmares of my x rattled in my brain something terrible began to happen in the supporting wall of my apartment. The ceiling became endowed in a matter of hours with a multitude of huge white teets like the roman she-wolf [vroma.org]of lore. Rippling gigantic tits.
Those tits were the paint holding in excess of a gallon of water a peice, the water main had blown, and my electronics were in 2 inches of water. I dried my electronic outside it was a 110 degree arizona summer and the only thing I lost was an answering machine that sounded like you were underwater when you played anything on it.
Needless to say I had my apartment upgraded to a better one for free by management and they paid me 2000 dollars to pretty much stop me from calling the authorities. This was a brand new apartment complex and the water main for the entire building ran through that supporting wall and it was only a 3 inch in diamater plastic pipe that had appearently shattered due to the pressure.
Okay... (Score:2, Funny)
A whole new meaning... (Score:5, Funny)
The poor thing...! (Score:1)
Re:The poor thing...! (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:The poor thing...! (Score:3, Informative)
Actually, no they aren't. Proper pizza cooking should be done at about the same temps. Those frozen ready made pizzas all cook at low temps. I grew up cooking pizza in an oven set at 550F. I don't remember the exact temperatures used in reflow, but I had calculated that a convection oven that reaches 500F would do fine. 250C seames to pop up as a likely maximum temperature.
Re:The poor thing...! (Score:2)
Re:The poor thing...! (Score:2)
425(F) = 218(C).
Re:The poor thing...! (Score:2)
hmmm... (Score:1)
Perhaps a microwave would have been the better way to go. Dry it from the inside out
One thought... (Score:5, Funny)
On that same note... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:On that same note... (Score:2)
Insert favourite... (Score:1)
here:
Hoax ?! (Score:1)
/me thinks it's a hoax.
Still, great pics !
Ooops, overdone... (Score:2, Funny)
Sounds like a PalmPilot in the hand is better than two in the oven...
Obligatory X-Men Quote! (Score:5, Funny)
Storm: The same thing that happens to everything else.
Can I get fries with that? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Can I get fries with that? (Score:1)
Forget the palm pilot (Score:1)
I'd be pissed if the pizza came out tasting like plastic. What we need are pictures of that pizza.
Slow day for news (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Slow day for news (Score:2)
Actually, though... (Score:1, Interesting)
Electronics and Ovens (Score:4, Informative)
When I was working in hardware design, many IC's that were designed to be wave soldered had to be totally free of moisture. They came shipped in air tight containers with humidity cards to tell you if they were exposed to too much moisture.
If they were not dry enough, the procedure was to bake them in an oven at several hundred degrees for a while.
Now, LCD's and plastics and other materials would not be too happy with that treatment. As others noted, a hair dryer will work to get it mostly dry. I'd suggest leaving it in a warm, dry area for at least a day after to make sure.
I once spilled an *entire* glass of water into an old Comodore 1541 disk drive. The scary thing, is they contained their own power supply. And it was on. After a day or so of drying, it worked fine.
Not so for the Commodore 128 that took a glass of grape juice (real, not flavored) into the keyboard. Although it was funny watching the keys sloooowly depress in the order you typed them in...
Re:Electronics and Ovens (Score:1)
I wonder (Score:1)
So what if it's fake? (Score:1)
Deliberate cooking! (Score:4, Insightful)
I know a lot of people who have done the same thing. Your laptop seem a big sluggish? Drop it on the pavement "by accident"... and bingo... the IT department hands you a shiny new blazingly fast feature filled replacement.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out what really happened.
-S
Re:Deliberate cooking! (Score:1)
Re:Deliberate cooking! (Score:2)
There are many hi-tech devices were ruined by PHB each year and the number is increasing. It's mainly due to the fact that household kitchen-ware is the only electric devices they could understand how to use. You'll use tools you acquainted with to fix things right? Same thing applied to PHB.
Actually... (Score:2)
Anyway, with the budget restrictions curently in effect at most companies, that rule doesn't apply any more. All of the employees where I work have been told, "If your laptop dies, you get a desktop machine." Since most of us already have a desktop machine, that means we get nada if our laptops break. Scary...
Sounds like... (Score:3, Funny)
*ahem* (Score:1)
Perhaps you can try giving Meldroc, the person who said it, credit?
Re: (Score:1)
Re:*ahem* (Score:2)
My lawyers will be in touch with you shortly.
Is it just me... (Score:5, Funny)
Pouring concrete in a PC case [slashdot.org], cooking your Palm Pilot, what's next? Xbox tossing? eBook flushing? Blasting a new iMac with a high-powered laser? Okay, that last one would be cool.
Re:Is it just me... (Score:1)
A clear pattern (Score:2)
Or even significantly reduce its usefulness. That way your theory would also explain all the attention given to copy protected CDs and microsoft products. (*smile*)
-- MarkusQ
One sign you're a geek... (Score:3, Funny)
Amazing new development ... (Score:1)
Cook for one hour at 375` and soon all system resources will melt into a globulous wad of uselessness ... just like Windows!
Bake the tape! (Score:2)
My friend, an Oracle DBA consultant, was given a difficult task to revive a very old tape which contained very important data. He tried so many methods in vain until he found out the tape manufacturer did provide service to 'bake' the tape. Yes! bake the tape to revive the tape. We don't know how and what they use to bake the tape, but they really said it is some process to 'bake' the tape to make the tape 'readable' again.
My friend solved the problem. A month later, the same client called, saying that their PHB, in an attempt to save money, baking tapes that he found problems - with (you bet) house oven.
This time, my friend declined to help(of course.)
Info Re:Bake the tape! (Score:4, Informative)
http://www.tangible-technology.com/tape/baking1.ht ml [tangible-technology.com]
When baked, the tape will expand and become loose around the hub. For this reason, use flanges to protect the tape from coming apart. Cooking temperature is between 130F and 140F. Tapes wound on plastic reels with small hubs should be rewound onto large reels with NAB hubs. Be careful to thread the tape around the hub without any "folds." The goal is to minimize "mechanical distortions" that can be impressed upon subsequent layers causing dropouts. The "wind" must be smooth as if played!!!
I have received several e-mails regarding "cooking time" and temperature. Provided the wind is smooth, I am not afraid to bake a quarter inch tape at 135F -- for two hours -- flipping every half-hour. You will find that cooking time varies with tape width, type, brand, condition and the number of reels being baked. Ampex tape from the seventies might require twice as much time as 3M tape from the eighties (as reported by Wendy Carlos when restoring her masters from that time period). Table One below can be used as a guide.
Other links:
http://www.audio-restoration.com/baking.htm [audio-restoration.com]
which indicate that this may not be a permanent solution, but is intended for tapes manufactered from the mid 70's forward, which had a tendency to absorb mosture.
http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/1996_articles/may96/s alvagearchives.html [sospubs.co.uk]
is also good, and indicates that home ovens do not go low enough.
Re:Bake the tape! (Score:2, Informative)
I think the recipe is something like 200 degrees F for 24 hours.
Mother's always right (Score:2, Funny)
new style of case design (Score:2)
The "wild molten" look...Apple, are you paying attention? heh heh
Once I had to clean out a calculator that I spilled cranberry juice in, I dunked the parts in denatured alcohol (ethanol or isopropyl with very low water content) which I assumed would clean out the cranberry juice and drive out the water. The calculator (TI85) still works fine today......"teh oven" is "teh bad idea" I think.
Re:new style of case design (Score:1)
Re:new style of case design (Score:2)
But it does work... (Score:2)
Well, she put them in the oven on a cookie sheet on a very low heat and sure enough - it worked
However, both stopped working over some time. The plus is that the plam was able to sync and was able to be replaced 'under warrenty' and same with the phone
There was no definate corelation between the water and stop working but I am pretty sure that some things that were exposed to water eventually corroded.
Re:But it does work... (Score:2)
Another unfortunate instance (Score:1, Offtopic)
I'm not the only one who read the same article. A PHB in another section would like to check whether the pantry's microwave oven has leakage with this method - later he complaint to the columist why he didn't warn the readers NOT to press the 'Start' button.
May be the columist must make the disclaimer 'People with IQ below 100 shouldn't read the following...'.
Re:Another unfortunate instance (Score:2)
The only real way to check for leakage is to use a proper detector.
Did he come home to find... (Score:4, Funny)
This is exactly what I needed today. (Score:1)
Thanks a lot Slashdot. I feel much better now.
And it doesn't work? (Score:2)
Seriously though that kind of neat. Personally I think that it would be insteresting to find out what fresh-baked Palms smell like. I guess I'll never find out because I don't have a Palm to waste (I don't have one period), and second I have to say I'd be suprised if it DIDN'T put off toxic fumes. My only real question for the guy who's Palm that was is this: how did the pizza taste? Does silicone enhance the flavor? Did you try putting the Palm in a light Bernet sauce?
Slashdot Story Shamelessness (Score:1, Flamebait)
Now, here's a guy who was a total numbnut who got his Palm fried.
Big deal.
From now on, if you want to get your story posted on
Wake up, editors.
My Palm Pilot... (Score:1)
Show us what we want (Score:2)
And they all come out (Score:2, Funny)
To get back on-topic.. (because we can't STAND to read a post that's not on the topic of burnt PDAs in a burnt PDA article.. that would be a waste of TIME!) Yeah, I think burnt PDAs are really cool. Hey, I could.. make a.. ummmm.. burnt PDA.. sandwich. Hahahahaha. Imagine a beowulf cluster of those. roflol.
Oi..... Son of the bloody monkey.
Obvious mistake (Score:2)
Foolish PHB, everyone knows you use a Microwave, not a Gas Oven!
Some people...
I don't buy it (Score:2)
The reality is that he was attempting to overclock that puppy to 30GHz.
Now let that be a lesson to everyone!
For folks in cold climates (Score:2)
Leaving gear in the car trunk or wherever, particularly overnight, cools it down to ambient which in Montreal right now is about -10c to -20c at night. Then bringing it into one's nice warm steamy house means condensation on components like the hard drive, some batteries, metal shields, etc. This film of moisture can cause problems like corrosion and shorting resulting in everything from intermittant flakiness to outright failure.
Thus aside from sticktion and under-spec cold batteries & capaciters & the thermal stress of running a frozen laptop/palmtop it's just best to let the whole thing warm up and dry out before using. In those cases putting on top of the 'fridge (where the warm air from the condensor blows up) or inside an oven with a pilot light AND NOT USING THE OVEN or on a table near (not *on*) a radiator are all actually good ideas.
Emeril Live (Score:2)
Redundent...I know (Score:2)
and this made the front page of slashdot why? (Score:2, Insightful)
How to fix a car radio (Score:5, Interesting)
Here is what I did to resurrect it.
I took the radio out of the car and the cover off the radio. I filled the kitchen sink with cold, clean water and soaked everything, cassette player and all, for 1 hour. Drained the water, refilled the sink, and soaked for another 15 minutes (rinse cycle). Finally, I baked it at 160 deg F in an (electric) oven for 8 hours.
Why 160? I figured a car radio could get that hot when the car was in the sun with the doors closed. I hesitated to go higher, mainly concerned with the plastic parts in the cassette player.
The radio and cassette still work fine to this day. Yeah, I still own the car - these days only gas-hogging SUVs match the surprising storage space inside of the tiny-looking frame of a 1988 Honda Wagovan, AFAIK made only one year, and only in tan. With plenty of headroom for extra-tall folks.
Re:How to fix a car radio (Score:2, Interesting)
Keeping it under water was less damaging than exposure to oxygen in the air. When we got it back, they rinsed everything with lots of flowing fresh water. We took everything apart, inspected it with a blacklight (sea-salt flouresces), baked it overnight in an environmental chamber (50C), reassembled things and almost every subassembly worked!
Cable assemblies took longer. There are lots of nooks & crannies for salt to hide in. They inspected them after a few weeks. Any salt tends to migrate out & beomes visible.
Re:How to fix a car radio (Score:3, Interesting)
Allegedly the US spec for military aircraft instruments includes being able to resist Coke spillage.
> I filled the kitchen sink with cold, clean water and soaked everything, cassette player and all, for 1 hour. Drained the water, refilled the sink, and soaked for another 15 minutes (rinse cycle).
It can be worth using distilled/deionized water for the final rinse.
uh.. is his name (Score:2)
How dumb do you have to be to put electronics in the oven? I think he got what he deserved.
In unrelated news (Score:3, Funny)
Ebay (Score:3, Funny)
A safe way to dry it out... (Score:3, Informative)
Nah.. (Score:2)
I also immensly enjoyed spilling cofe on my keyboard, dropping my cell phone, and then stepping on it, and cutting my finger when clipping my toenails. I guess I should dedicate a web site to it.
Re:Microwave anyone??? (Score:2)
Corrosion and/or shorting (Score:2)
(2) Water can cause an active circuit to short itself out, possibly in a permanently descructive manner.