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Lets start things off with a thing of beauty: ChazeFroy notes that Malin Space Science Systems has tons of really excellent images from the Mars Global Surveyor. Now something of evil: TsEA sends us HTML magic: a true guideline for HTML usage. 3 things that prove that The net Will destroy humanity: BlackNova sent us a Magic 8-ball powered by Lego Mindstorms, Cuban sent us the pantscam (which is exactly what it sounds like) and _martini_ noted an online thermostat where you can twiddle the temperature at some guys house. Its only a matter of time before technology fights back: NMerriam sent us the truth about what computers think of us in this weeks Onion. But let us not forget that science has given us many wonderful things, like for example, lunatik17 pointed us at a bit about shooting your lawn with lasers instead of mowing. However, science has also given us gmr2048's story about testicular implants for animals so I guess we're kinda even so far. I suspect the only way to defend ourselves from technology is to understand it, and who better to teach topics like ISDN then sent a great way to have celebreties like Alicia Silverstone. Or Mr. Rogers teaching the RS232 pinout, Tonya Harding explaining a Cisco 700, and best of all, Darva Conger on the configure register of Cisco routers (thanks Ex Machina who got it from Memepool) Ever want to be a female olympic marathon champ? Jaster this years winner believes hornet stomach juice is the secret, so get started! Of course, to much of that stuff could wind you up on sent us the the next Darwin Awards (from Gambit Thirty-Two) Ant sent us a pair of stories about poop! (what does this guy do with his time?) What happens when your space toilet doesn't flush? All I know is I hope that I have some custom printed toilet paper to keep things under control. Finally, many people noted that you should call 1-800-888-3999, and select option 7. No, really.
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  • Actualy, that is not true. Your caller ID block does not work with 911, toll free numbers (800, 877, 866, etc), and 900#'s.

    Don't believe me? E-Mail me at root@TechKnowWizards.com and I will respond with my 800 number, call it and I will email you the phone number you called from.
  • She got enough equipment shoved down her pants?? Damn, I feel inferior now.

    siri

  • I can seem to finger it. I don't think there really is a face on Mars. Can anyone point me to it? Mars surface [msss.com]

    -

  • .. before she got fat.. man.. I love the one in the yellow top. Anyone got an email address? I have some net stalking to do.



  • http://www.icq.com
  • I saw it in last week's Sports Illustrated (which is at home, or I'd cite the page number). I don't really want to believe the story, but I'd say SI rates as a reliable media outlet.

    Eric
  • Rendering images [detour.net] (or .tar.gz [detour.net] format) with a table.
  • I am American and ashamed at this aspect of my country's culture.

    Oh, come on. Why pick on Neuticles(tm) when there are so many better reasons to be ashamed of American culture?

  • yeah and he didn't mention a comparison between 'Snow Crash' and people turning into 'gargoyles'.

    eudas
  • by kev-san ( 66245 ) <.kevin.carter. .at. .colorado.edu.> on Monday October 23, 2000 @04:50PM (#681855) Homepage
    What do you think of my mail client? Outlook not so good
  • The temperature is up to 78 degrees or so, and the set temperature is almost 81. They left a note by the thermometer saying "TOO HOT! (We are going to play hockey.)" I think that's what it says, it's pretty hard to make out. drewb
  • > > A third Neuticles model - 30% softer than NeuticlesNatural! Now there are three firmness level selections- rigid, natural and super soft

    > There are people out there for whom the feel of their pets' testicles is important.

    Either that, or else the site is hinting that they sell an organ other than testicles -
    "I'll have a
    rigid for me, a natural for my puppy, and a super soft for my pet gorilla.
  • >This is perfect if you want to do telemarketting!

    Unless you phoned from a PayPhone at work (I prefer to keep my ANI secret, TYVM). They can call MY PayPhone number anytime. :-)

  • Finally, many people noted that you should call 1-800-888-3999, and select option 7. No really.

    Okay.. I have the feeling this is going to be slashdotted (a first for a phone number ? ;) But well.. the option says "Press 7 to hear a duck quack" and you ACTUALLY hear a duck quack before the automatic voice message system hangs up on you. Enjoy!
  • by Apotsy ( 84148 ) on Monday October 23, 2000 @02:19PM (#681860)
    It's "National Discount Brokers" or something like that. When the recording listing the menu choices gets to #7, the woman says, in complete dead pan:
    If you would like to hear a duck quack, press 7.

    Sure enough, when you press 7, you hear a recording of someone blaring on a duck call two times. Then it hangs up on you.

    I can't believe they posted this to Slashdot. Companies that have 1-800 numbers get charged for each call that comes in. Those people are going to be in big trouble when management sees their 1-800 bill skyrocket due to a bunch of /.ers calling in to hear a duck quack. Ha, ha!

  • OK, everybody - In the interest of efficiency, can we all agree to make that guy's apartment hotter? That way, they'll suffer and have an expensive heating bill.

    If the 200,000 registered /.ers each vote for "hot," his apartment should go up to 275 degrees F.

  • yeah i just got through and it Option 7 asks if you would like to here a duck quack. Press 7 and a duck quacks and hangs up the phone. since when did ducks grow opposable so they could pick up a phone and hang it up???
  • by Kaufmann ( 16976 )
    Of course Vicky can't get her computer to work right. After all, she's using Microsloth Windblows! I urge the entire Slashdot community to email Dr Glickman and ask him to migrate the clinic's management system to a Modern Operating System (like Linux, which is based on next-generation Unix design and state-of-the-art fail-proof Open Source development). Using Linux's powerful desktop system GNOME (packaged in the user-friendly, failproof RedHat distribution), Vicky will be able to go from incompetent loser to elite hacker geekchick in no time! And using her powerful, cheap Dell computer, she can even help good Dr Glickman save the lives of patients... all thanks to Linux!

    Ain't life grand without Billsux around?
  • by CaseyB ( 1105 ) on Monday October 23, 2000 @02:22PM (#681864)
    Introducing NeuticlesUltra... A third Neuticles model - 30% softer than NeuticlesNatural! Now there are three firmness level selections- rigid, natural and super soft

    There are people out there for whom the feel of their pets' testicles is important.

  • by drwiii ( 434 ) on Monday October 23, 2000 @02:22PM (#681865)
    MP3 [min.net]
  • Either that, or ban freeze-dried beans and cabbage from the next flight. Talk about pissing away your money. But maybe this will put $400 Department of Defense-approved toilet seats in perspective.

    Bad pun! Defenestrate him! [tuxedo.org]

  • I swear, the first time I saw this I thought it said "pant scam". I thought to myself, "It's just what it looks like? Why would anyone want to scam somebody's pants???" I kid you not. I guess I'm just not into the whole webcam thing.


  • "Lego's and Neuticles ...
    Does it get any better for overall amusement?"


    Yea quite amusing, also brings back memories. I remember when I was a kid I would play for hours with Legos and Neuticles.

    The thing I am wondering, is could say Neuticles be used on say for an example on a small chipmuck or goat? Hypotical speaking of corse.


  • Well I asked "Is this thing for real?" and it said Outlook not so good so...
  • How exactly are rubber nuts supposed to save the life of a whino?
  • > Pretty soon, Americans will voluntarily be wearing these tremendous get-ups with cameras sticking every direction, which will enable them to be filmed twenty-four hours a day from fifty angles.

    OK by me. I draw the line at gerbilcams, though.
  • I used it today but now its gone just when i was about to show it off to my friends
  • by GoRK ( 10018 ) on Monday October 23, 2000 @05:15PM (#681873) Homepage Journal
    Remember when calling a Toll Free or extra Toll (900/977) number that your name and phone number are always without fail transmitted to the callee. I would absolutely not be suprised if they sell the database of people who have called them!

    You have been warned!!!

    ~GoRK
  • Oh... pants-CAM... Stupid me was reading it as "pant-SCAM"
  • i've been turning their light on and off, if they let you do that the thermostat should be real also :)
  • January 15, 1990 comes to mind.

    But I believe Mothers' Day is the traditional busiest single day of telephone usage.
  • is why the performance enhancing drug ephedrine (actually fairly commonly used by athletes in combination with caffeine and aspirin) will get someone's medal revoked but the performance enhancing drug "amino acids from hornet larvae's stomachs" will not.
  • by clinko ( 232501 ) on Monday October 23, 2000 @02:04PM (#681878) Journal
    "Thank you for your interest in patented Neuticles and the revolutionary CTI testicular implant procedure for pets. "

    NO SIR, THANK YOU!

    *Time to break out the credit card!*


  • Hehe the question I asked was "Are you being slashdotted?" hmmm, guess ya had to be there!


    Enigma
  • by anotherone ( 132088 ) on Monday October 23, 2000 @02:05PM (#681880)
    I tried calling 1-800-888-3999 but it's busy. Is this the first time the /. effect has ever happened in real life as opposed to on the internet?

    Anyone get through?
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  • Re the quacking duck. If someone didn't do this on purpose, they should have, it is a brilliant example of (most likely unintentional) viral marketting.

    I have gotten this in about ten different emails, and myself have been responsible for infecting at least 5 others with this virulent little meme.

    How long until we see some copy-cats?

    Imagine the following:

    (with that old fogey 'we make money the old fashioned way' voice)
    'Welcome to Salomen-Smith Barney'
    'Press 1 to hear your account balance'
    'Press 2 to access stock quotes
    'Press 3 to hear me fart the national anthem'
    'Press 4 to trade stocks'
    'Press 5 to hang up'

    -josh
  • I did.

    There's a guy saying "Hmmh, hmmh." and hanging up.

    Weird.

    Jay (=
  • they already did, by listing it in a previous quickies
  • Is this the first time that the telephone system has felt the Slashdot effect?

    Have you ever tried to make a long-distance call on New Years Eve at Midnight, or on mother's day? You usually get a message like "All circuits are busy, please hang up and try again."
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  • Once they get the phone bill they won't be Discount brokers for long... heh. "Why are there 100,000 calls here all listening to a duck quack?" If they have any sort of real phone contract they won't pay much more than a few thousand dollars for this.
  • I think we can call this publicity. Of course it cost them $0.25 or something for everyone who call just to hear the duck but most peoples who called will remember the company name.

    It's not as stupid as it sounds...
  • No thanks dude. Do you realize how cold it is in NY right now? (I'm freezing in a T... I thought it'd be warmer).

    My suggestion: make it a ton colder.

    (Besides, do we really know if this thing is connected to their thermostat anyway? No active pictures available).

  • Nothing much, just the usual occasional /. reprint effect... I can remember seeing those exact pictures from a link on Slashdot before...still cool though.
    ---
  • Aren't those bastards just getting you to perfect it for them for free? I mean, the process and information and results must all be confidential and the RIAA gets your end product to keep and anylze. Sounds like they just want to see what kind of security holes there are in it and patch them before implementing it... Haha, maybe they would do better if they were like Microsoft and Apple, but instead of charging to beta-test their software, they could charge you to enter their 'contest' and help them create a completely secure SDMI! .....I mean win $$BIG BUCK$$$ and get to be in with the Rock-Stars !!! ;P
  • One of the news shows last year ran a story on neuticles. At first they were talking about fake balls for the dog, then the story took an alarming turn into Jerry Springer land and started reporting that humans were using nuticles too. Seems that there is no FDA approved cosmetic repalcement for human testicles, so people were using nuticles as a replacement for the family jewels after they had been removed for medical reasons. Reality is stranger than fiction.
  • Gives new meaning to "He's got his head up his ass ", huh?
  • Yes, The Sydney Morning Herald (SMH) is a reliable paper. It is in the same stable as The Age [theage.com.au], and The Australian Financial Review [afr.com.au], Australia's 'Wall Street Journal'.
  • It quacks like a duck!
  • i wanna wipe my ass with microsoft! :)
  • "[28]Cuban sent us the [29]pantscam (which is exactly what it sounds like)"

    Well, I was curious about this pant scam, wondering why some plan to import fake designer jeans would make it to Slashdot coverage. I couldn't think of anything else that would be called pant scam, but was curious ... it turns out it's not "exactly what it sounds like" but instead is a camera pointed to some woman's underwear. Well, at least that's what it says it is -- I can't see it, since it requires some form of javacrap and lynx doesn't have javacrap of any flavor. (Lynx is fine for viewing graphics, for those who don't know this, but javacrap, nope, and I'm glad of that.)

    What's this have to do with Slashdot? Well, since I can't see the site, I can't tell for sure, but I'm guessing there must be some impressive new technology involved. After all, what good would a camera be that's stuffed down someone's jeans? It's DARK there, right?

    Someone who uses a javacrap-enabled browser please let the rest of us know what's going on with this. I'm still curious, even if the site *is* lame, heh.

  • As an RPI student, if we make their heating bill expensive, then (assuming they live on campus) it'll be RPI who'll pay, and ultimately the students. So please vote responsibly, it's my money at stake...

    And as a WPI student, I say screw RPI, let's crank the temperature up! :)

  • 82.3 when I left it. Remember, hit the RED button

    :)
  • I think they're in trouble anyways. I tried lowering the temp, but it still went up. I think they've got something wrong, and since only one click per IP per day is allowed, it's not like you can then adjust for it.

    It's no wonder they're dying, because they're asking people to turn it down, which causes it to keep going up...
    ---
  • NeuticlesUltra are solid silicon and is 30% softer than NeuticlesNatural for an even softer feel-marshmellow soft.
    Does this mean they finally found a use for all those old defective floating point Pentiums?

    John

  • The Echelon Demo Room [echelon.com] has an online thermostat. You can also adjust various lights and run the blinds up and down. It's an ad for a home control system that never really caught on.

    As it turns out, while that technology never went anywhere for home control, its noise immunity was so good that it became the standard for rail transit systems, where it's used to manage destination signs, HVAC, lighting, and related support systems.

  • by Anonymous Coward
    And using her powerful, cheap Dell computer, she can even help good Dr Glickman save the lives of patients

    Dr. Glickman is a dentist. I doubt he'll be saving lives.
  • This number has been making the rounds for some time. I first read about it on Friday, when it appeared in the corner of the front page of the National Post [nationalpost.com]:

    The duck really took flight on Oct. 9, when 15,000 people called. By the end of the week, with the phone number circulating throughout the Internet, more than 250,000 callers called NDB.

    The number of calls to the number is costing the company about US$8,000 a day, but Mr. McQuilkin said it is money well spent.

    Maybe, just MAYBE, there is more than the /. effect at play here.

  • Yup, I'd hate to have to pay that phone bill . . . a guy in my office told me about it last Tuesday. By last Thursday, it had appeared in the local paper (The Raleigh N&O). And, as if that wasn't bad enough, it shows up on Slashdot . . .

    ----
    "A fool does not delight in understanding, but only in revealing his own mind."

  • "custom printed toilet paper"
    I want some rolls with Winblows logo's on it !! *That* will be very useful...
  • by Chiasmus_ ( 171285 ) <ayatollah_hyperbole@@@yahoo...com> on Monday October 23, 2000 @02:34PM (#681905) Journal
    I can explain this. At least, as well as Jon Katz could.

    The pantscam shows us the danger of American culture in conjunction with the internet. Americans have been obsessed with celebrity and exposure since the first non-silent motion pictures. Now, easy web access gives us the ability to gain as much exposure as we could possibly want.

    The result? First, people start sticking web cams in front of their computers. Then, in their bedrooms, showers, refrigerators. Then, in their pants, toilets, and attached to their toothbrushes.

    How can we reverse this trend? Well, we can't. Pretty soon, Americans will voluntarily be wearing these tremendous get-ups with cameras sticking every direction, which will enable them to be filmed twenty-four hours a day from fifty angles.
  • As an RPI student, if we make their heating bill expensive, then (assuming they live on campus) it'll be RPI who'll pay, and ultimately the students. So please vote responsibly, it's my money at stake...
  • Yep, was a /. link last year. From his page:

    On July 20, 1999 slashdot mentioned the 8 ball and the resulting traffic overwhelmed the server. The 8 ball can only serve about 400 visitors per hour, (about an 8 second cycle time) we were receiving 1200 visitors per hour. The waiting queue went over 70, the resulting system load caused the server to assume something was wrong and reboot.

    3prong
  • Poor guy just couldn't keep it up with a large audience watching I guess..

    --

  • These guys are having problems with PIRATE NADS [neuticles.com]! Someone with an eye for a business opportunity.

    Now I can't stop thinking about someone filing the 'extrasmall' off of them and relabelling them 'large', ala Pentium IIIs...

  • "Of course, to much of that stuff could wind you up on sent us the the next Darwin Awards" -
    what? That's not right - that's not even wrong.
  • More than likely, they're artificially bumping up the rate of calls. This could be used to fool investors into thinking that, hey, the 800 number works really well. ;)
  • Great, now the cost of my stock trades is going to increase to cover the cost of the /. calls.

    Time to look for a new online brokerage...

    (yes, I really do use NDB ;)
    -----
    D. Fischer
  • Makes sense considering their trademark is a duck. Look at the website.
  • by mosch ( 204 ) on Monday October 23, 2000 @02:38PM (#681922) Homepage
    Are you kidding? It'll be even more discount, it's brilliant marketing. What's the phone call cost? Somewhere around oh say... a dime. Now let's say 0.1% of the people who call decide they want to become a customer. Now they're getting customers for $100 each, a bargain considering what the per customer profit is at a brokerage, even a discount brokerage.

    --
    "Don't trolls get tired?"
  • by NYC ( 10100 ) on Monday October 23, 2000 @02:39PM (#681923)
    Will this site survive the Slashdot effect?

    Outlook not so good
    --weenie NT4 user: bite me!

  • Yeah, what is it? Some kind of pant scam?
  • That was the funniest automated voice answering system I've ever heard. Very good.

    Too bad it wasn't a Penguin!

    Now hiring experienced client- & server-side developers

  • Since the last thrashing of the 8ball by slashdot I have added IE support. It kind of sucks, only delivers a frame or two per second vs 10/second for netscape, but at least its there.

    (IE doesn't have the multipart MIME type, so I do bizarre Javascript encoding state changes in 404 status codes of images.)
  • Haha, during the day someone will answer the phone. I asked for Option 7, and she connects me to the listings of options, then quaky quaky.

    --
    Scott Miga
    suprax@linux.com
  • Heh... it's so overloaded now the fluid inside is becoming frothy. :)
  • Look at the change in temperature since they got /.ed. What a sadistic bunch of people...

  • were from http://memepool.com/, Blue's News, CNET, Wired News, etc. I am a freak! ;)

  • by Platinum Dragon ( 34829 ) on Monday October 23, 2000 @02:55PM (#681962) Journal
    With apologies to Dave Barry, I Am Not Making This Up:

    On the phone with my girlfriend right now, telling her about some of the quickies. This gem just kinda rolled out of my mouth...

    "[...] there's a site called the pantscam, but it's down..."
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  • I was wondering if anyone can verify the hornet story? Is smh.com.au a reliable paper?

    It sounds really fascinating! I wonder how much hornet juice would cost if they started selling it?
  • by fireproof ( 6438 ) on Monday October 23, 2000 @03:04PM (#681964) Homepage
    I'd say "On the phone with my girlfriend right now, telling her about some of the quickies." is a gem in its own right . . .

    ----
    "A fool does not delight in understanding, but only in revealing his own mind."

  • by Pentagram ( 40862 ) on Monday October 23, 2000 @03:50PM (#681966) Homepage
    Funniest thing on the site:

    ...replicating the animals testicle in size, shape and weight

    Ok, Mr. Johnson, I've made them a bit heavier this time.

    Yeah, not too bad, boy. Hang on a second...

    MOOOOOOOOH!

    Yeah, they're pretty similar. Maybe a bit firmer with the next batch.


    ---
  • by Ranger Rick ( 197 ) <slashdot AT raccoonfink DOT com> on Monday October 23, 2000 @03:53PM (#681968) Homepage
    Bzzt! Not one use of the word 'geek'.

    You lose 10 points in the Dec-Katz-Alon.

    :)

    :wq!

  • The routergod stuff is pretty funny, but give credit to the original idea.

    Britney Spears' Guide to Semiconductor Physics [britneyspears.ac]

    I watch the sea.
    I saw it on TV.

  • by Magic5Ball ( 188725 ) on Monday October 23, 2000 @07:26PM (#681977)
    They now have a database of 10,000s of working phone numbers of people who are computer-savvy and have more financial liquidity than the average person. Who paid for what now?
  • Is this a Slashdot first? A site (the 8-ball site) setting itself up to be Slashdotted? Try the 8-ball and check out the image you get.
  • I seriously read it as "pant scam" the first time, then I looked at the URL and couldn't workout why someone trying to run a scam would use the word scam in their URL. Then the penny dropped.

    I should have worked that out sooner, since <blatent self promotion> I run two webcams [optusnet.com.au] off my PC, including a Gameboy Webcam. </blatent>

  • by anotherone ( 132088 ) on Monday October 23, 2000 @02:12PM (#681983)
    Actually, there's already a term for this in the real world.

    Phones aren't slashdotted, phones are busy.
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  • Slashdot readers are half as likely to ask the 8ball about romance and three times ask likely to ask about their job.

    This is from the trained monkeys (well, regex keyword matcher) that categorize the questions for the ad server on the 8ball.
  • From the website,

    • On July 20, 1999 slashdot mentioned the 8 ball and the resulting traffic overwhelmed the server. The 8 ball can only serve about 400 visitors per hour, (about an 8 second cycle time) we were receiving 1200 visitors per hour. The waiting queue went over 70, the resulting system load caused the server to assume something was wrong and reboot. Timely intervention resulted in a modification to the nabber program to shun visitors when more than 20 people are already in the queue. This takes the form of a graphic informing them to try back later instead of the usual "You are 2345, now serving 2356" messages. Since this modification there has been no problem with system load. Even with the limit of 20 the ball remained saturated until hours after it had moved off the slashdot page, 2/3rds of the visitors waited more than 100 seconds for their turn at destiny.

    For the record, I asked the Public 8Ball "Is this for real?" and the answer I got back was along the lines of "definitely, yes."

  • by romco ( 61131 ) on Monday October 23, 2000 @03:19PM (#681989) Homepage
    "There are people out there for whom the feel of their pets' testicles is important."

    ...and you only need to read the endorsments to
    find one....

    "Neuticles are just plain neat!"
    Rush Limbaugh

    The poor web designer must have been wiping
    tears from his eyes the whole time...
  • Ie gives me:

    HTTP 403.9 - Access Forbidden: Too many users are connected
    Internet Information Services

    Never saw that one before.
  • "Spaceballs the toilet paper" Hell yeah. Making dreams a reality. ~K (horray for RPI)
  • If I recall correctly from calling a week or so ago.
    You receive a standard automated voice prompting you to chose one of 7 options. The comment for option 7 is:

    "If you would like to hear a duck quack, chose 7."

    If you chose 7 you'll hear someone play a duck call and then hang up.
  • ... from tyco toys [jaked.org] (or rather mattel, their owner. Where are you sorehands?)

    So, of course I asked the 8-ball "Will you cease and desist?"
    It promtly answered "It is likely"

  • [Quickies [everything2.com]] would not be possible on E2 because Everything 2 [everything2.com] does not allow <a href="...">external links</a>, only [hardlink [everything2.com]]s within the E2 system.
  • Boy hound don't read that fast, but I think he's got the idea now... He's trembling and backing away from the monitor; so I'd say the reaction is not as enthusiastic amonst their target demographic as they might hype.

    Note the press quotes page.

  • by fireproof ( 6438 ) on Monday October 23, 2000 @02:17PM (#682014) Homepage
    For those of you who missed out on the number thing, it's to National Discount Brokers, who apparently are a stock brokerage firm or something similar. In any case, there's a nice lady who reads off six important sounding brokerage-related options. She then says "If you would like to hear a duck quack, press 7." Upon pressing seven, you get to hear a duck quack twice.

    ----
    "A fool does not delight in understanding, but only in revealing his own mind."

  • You figure for the $5 million or so NASA probably flushed down the can for that Waste Collection Unit, it could handle whatever seven astronauts can fire at it. Or at least dump $100 to make sure shoulder-length gloves are available.

    Either that, or ban freeze-dried beans and cabbage from the next flight.

    Talk about pissing away your money.

    But maybe this will put $400 Department of Defense-approved toilet seats in perspective.

    Or maybe it's just the same old crap.
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  • If I recall correctly from calling a week or so ago.

    You receive a standard automated voice prompting you to chose one of 7 options. The comment for option 7 is:

    "If you would like to hear a duck quack, chose 7."

    If you chose 7 you'll hear someone play a duck call and then hang up.
  • Mainly it was just frames and ad banners though. Frames don't seem to be that much of a problem anymore because most designers seem to realize they're bad. And JunkBuster takes care of most banners.

    What really bother me are:

    • Animated GIFs
    • GIFs
    • 800k of graphics just for some stupid logo
    • blink tags
    • Hard-to-read-over backgrounds
    • Extremely-lynx-unfriendly crowded navigation bars
    • JavaScript
    • Macromedia * (or any other plugins, for that matter)
    Ah well, I like Taco Hell [slashdot.org] better.

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