The switches moved before the conversation between the pilot and copilot took place.

Your proposed sequence of events:
Engines shut off.
Pilot flips fuel switches to cutoff.
Copilot asks pilot if he cut the engines.
Pilot says they didn't.
Someone then flips the fuel switches back to run.

Makes a whole lot of fucking sense. No, seriously. I bet you're the best fry cook in town.

My favorite was Wilson's 2 years of being incapacitated and his wife elevating herself to Acting President.

You've just moved the goalposts.

You said:
[So you're saying America elected] [one of the worst leaders of all time anywhere.]

That dumbshit isn't anywhere close to one of the worst leaders of all time anywhere. That is, again, one of the dumbest fucking things I have ever read.
When he's got a few million dead under his belt, we can begin to talk about his ranking under the "worst" category of "of all time anywhere".

If you'd like to limit that to say, "American Presidents", then alright- we can play ball with that.
Quit being a fucking moron.

What in the world are people thinking? I'm not sure letting people have money is a good idea anymore.

https://www.bbc.com/news/artic...

"More" is doing a lot of work, the front has expanded like 5%, we can look at this. Also Ukraine is like 2-3x on casualties. And we have to take perspective, Russia is/was the 3rd largest military in the world, Ukraine still is massively the underdog. Holding lines like this for so long says something.

I am sure here in America if we were fighting for our literal homeland we wouldn't appreciate a country capable of helping us instead telling us to give them up while we are willing and are literally fighting right at this moment. Yes it robs agency. Everything else you wrote is cope to justify removing that agency because it suits your... something, I never understand the Russia defenders, what are you defending? it's clearly the immoral position. Saving money? That can't be it.

This entire paragraph is empty words, why write it?

Oh bullshit, we are capable of holding those positions just fine. Iraq 2003 was immoral. Russia in 2014 and 2022 is immoral. Easy, i'm a human being with a brain, I can process this.

And this is just more justification for an obvious immoral action, the unjustified invasion of a nation. Something we all apparently understand? The alternative you propose is to just let an immoral actor succeed at an immoral action because... again, money? If we're talking American boots on the ground, yeah we can maybe get a little more in the weeds but this is just horseshoe tankie "America bad" blended with America First "Russia good".

I know this site is built on the back of autism but you could at least try to read like we're all human beings here.

I'm not here to defend Trump in my estimation the tariffs are not in the interest of the US and it's unfortunate.

Considering that maybe the increased military spending is good for Europe now, certainly can't blame them for finding the US and unreliable partner.

That though doesn't change the fact that Russia invasion is unjustified and should be resisted, it's actually irrelevant to that. You can admit it's unjustified and all that and still not want to defend Ukraine, that's arguable at least.

We are and have always been able to afford it, it's a political choice through and through.

I distinctly remember people recommending use of a tablet with external keyboard as a substitute for entry-level subnotebook computers when the latter were discontinued in fourth quarter 2012. This despite that major tablets ship with operating systems locked down not to run the sort of lightweight software development environments that could run on the desktop operating system of a netbook.

Sucks as a description, too.

Sealevel rise (per year) during the MWPs was an actual (correctly used) order of magnitude higher than today. So scale-wise, it was far more significant. Speed-wise, the level of change was much more rapid.

Correct. Today's problem is a different kind, and one that is far more dangerous the extant ecosystem.

This is one of the ways that "Climate Change" fucks as a description. "Global Warming" really was always better.
The problem isn't that the climate is changing. Life works around that. The real danger is that it's warming- that it's trying to adapt to a warmer and warmer world. There will be no equilibrium until it stops, and the world will get less and less habitable to us.

I'm not a Democrat. I said some of their values align with mine.
I've been an independent my entire life. I am, however, a liberal.

I'm what you dipshits call one of the "Coastal Elites".
People with a substantial income and net worth that are somehow also communists (weird).

Your inability to see any nuance in positions is because you're a stupid person. It's ok. Your time in the sun is almost over, now. It'll be a while before America empowers morons again.

Or, perhaps, just make the process take more time, so that a copilot 1) can easily see that it's happening, 2) put a stop to it
You need to be able to shut off the engines with 1 single pilot, but you don't want 1 pilot to do it if another pilot countermands them (i guess there's a weakness too, but less of one)

I do feel like we can do better, but I don't feel like there's any way to make it perfectly safe. At the end of the day- the guy is piloting the plane- there are a near infinite ways he can crash it.
But we want the redundant pilots to be able to prevent that from happening, if possible.

Captain Steeeve is a fucking dipshit who promulgated flat out misinformation for views.

Engines shut down. That's why data streams are evaluated for why.
This shutdown was manual- accidental or otherwise.

All of the conspiracy theorizing about ways the engines both could have shut off are all based on ignoring one fundamental fact- that the switches were were moved to cutoff.

They fucking all were.
Don't watch pilots on YouTube.